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Interview: Diana West on the Cold War and American Betrayal

July 8th, 2013 - 12:00 am

MR. DRISCOLL:  American Betrayal discusses FDR and America’s Lend-Lease program supplying vehicles and equipment to the Soviet Union. As you write in the book, the most common objection to this is that, given that both we and the Soviets were at war with Nazi Germany, what was wrong with this?

MS. WEST:  Well, it’s a very fair question.  The premise of it, I think, is something that we’ve never quite understood.  We assume — and people did at the time — that America, Britain, and the Soviet Union, all had as their primary objective, in fighting the war in Europe, the overthrow of Hitler — of Hitler’s Germany, of the Nazi Reich.

Certainly, that was the operational premise that led us into war along with Great Britain.  Stalin, however, had a different idea.  He wanted to supplant the Third Reich.  He wanted to overthrow it and take its place.  And indeed he did, with our help.  And the Lend-Lease story is something that is so shocking when you realize the scope of hundreds of millions of dollars’-worth of aid that flowed from the United States to the Soviet Union, to a point where I was quite staggered to read a comment that Khrushchev made in 1970.  He basically — one of the few times you get an acknowledgement of American aid from a Soviet leader, he actually said in Life magazine that it — if he hadn’t had those half a million Dodge trucks and cars and other kinds of American cars and transport, he didn’t know if the Red Army could have made it to Berlin.

I mean think about that.  We were actually supplying the means by which the Red Army was able to move into Europe and indeed take it over.  This was the kind of aid that was going forward.  And additionally — and this is another bit of our completely lost history — we through Lend-Lease actually gave the Soviet Union uranium, heavy water and something like a hundred other atomic materials, during the Manhattan Project, when there were embargoes on such materials, particularly, namely uranium.

And after the war, when this came out, this was the beginning of a huge scandal that was sort of tamped down.  And I believe that this was one of the sort of disappearing little kind of back legs of a tiger going down a hole here, that I try to pull out and take another look at what was going on with the late breaking developments since the ’90s, knowing about the agents in our midst, what was going on with Lend-Lease, what was going on with the atomic supply to the Soviet Union during World War II.  This was the kind of question I was trying to take our new understanding, the new intelligence archival information and go back, reweave the narrative, and see what it really looks like.

And that’s why I called the book American Betrayal.  There was a lot of betrayal going on of the American people by our leadership.

MR. DRISCOLL:  Diana, I wanted to ask you about a couple of names that appear in American Betrayal. First off, who was Harry Hopkins, and what role does he play in your new book?

MS. WEST:  Well, who was Harry Hopkins?  I mean, I didn’t know.  I knew the name.  I could even imagine in — on hearing the name when I began my research, a very skinny fellow, a New Dealer.  But I really didn’t know much more than that.  And when I went back into the records, again, something we’re not taught in — even in high school or college courses about the period — Harry Hopkins was about the most important man in America besides Roosevelt.  And sometimes more important, because very often he had the final say on programs and projects.  It’s kind of an astonishing fact.

He lived in the White House for three and a half years, with the Roosevelts, part of that time actually during the war.  He was the overseer of Lend-Lease and many other programs.  In fact, he generally was thought of as Roosevelt’s foreign office run out of the White House.

This was a time where you actually see the executive branch ramp up and take all manner of powers that once were part of the Senate.  Treaty-making powers once were certainly part of a State Department, normal work of the State Department and Secretary of State.  They almost became fifth wheels during World War II, when Harry Hopkins was essentially our foreign minister.

And when you actually go back to the wartime conferences, the famous wartime conferences such as Tehran or Yalta with Stalin and Churchill, or the other meetings with — with Churchill without Stalin, Harry Hopkins is the man functioning as our foreign minister.

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COLD WAR - Just like in Vietnam, we won all the battles but lost the war thanks to people like the Clintons. I am only 46 years old, but when I was in high school (1980's) I was taught that communism and socialism (aka: USSR) were "enemies" of America and wanted to do us harm eventually replacing our form of government....not anymore...because the whole American education system is overrun with commies and socialists! It is NO ACCIDENT - They planned it that way. They could never defeat us militarily, so take advantage of weak-minded, selfish a$$holes and defeat us from within.

Remember BENGHAZI!
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Of course, McCarthy, as a senator, was not on HUAC.
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The HUAC was founded, as an an attack on fascists, by the only congressman known to be in the pay of Soviet intelligence, as per The Haunted Wood. It did continue afterwards to go after both Fascists and Communists.

From this alone I am having a hard time seeing the thesis. Both the US and the UK made a calculated decision to make a deal with the devil in order to forstall a more immediate threat to Western Europe, Nazi Germany. Germany did in fact take over Western Europe, and while it killed far fewer people, given time and opportuntity, the death rate is likely to have been much higher.

As Churchill joked, "if Hitler were to declare war on Hell, I would be inclined to put in a word for the Devil".
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"I mean, imagine if a nation decided to normalize relations — if we play a little historical scrabble — mind-scrabble — with a Hitler, after having killed six million of its own people — six million Jews, say?"

What would have stopped them? The nations of the world, particularly Great Britain, did everything they could to make sure as few Jews escaped the Holocaust as possible. Even after it was over and the pictures came out, we have Truman recorded as complaining about the Jews whining about the Holocaust. (Eisenhower was different; ironically their ME foreign policies were reversed.)

For that matter, if we could recognize Mao, we could recognize anyone.
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Ms West, when you go to write your next book, you might want to look up the Oneida Community. It's American. and socialist. The leftist rot starts early, and is woven in deeply.

When professors teach 'American history of regular people'- they use the book "Way of Duty" about a "plain Connecticut housewife." No, she's not. She's the grandmother of the Oneida founder. As well, some of her children and grandchildren are the first known atheists in America. It's a counter-history, a history of the left, and their families, not the "history of regular Americans."

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COLD WAR - Just like in Vietnam, we won all the battles but lost the war thanks to people like the Clintons. I am only 46 years old, but when I was in high school (1980's) I was taught that communism and socialism (aka: USSR) were "enemies" of America and wanted to do us harm eventually replacing our form of government....not anymore...because the whole American education system is overrun with commies and socialists! It is NO ACCIDENT - They planned it that way. They could never defeat us militarily, so take advantage of weak-minded, selfish a$$holes and defeat us from within.

Remember BENGHAZI!
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I went to grade school in the sixties and early severties, and one of my history books had a section entitled "American Impreialism". No kidding.
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Maxine Waters Confirms "Big Brother" Database 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIA1lQBqH1s
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From all indications outside of Dixie the Democrat establishment on the coasts and especially in Hollywood wanted to see Communism succeed so badly they could taste it in 1933. The infatuation of the American left with Communist ideology knew, and knows, no bounds.

FDR may have been playing pragmatic politics by recognizing the Soviet Union (the enemy of my enemy is my friend), but I'm convinced he would have loved to have had Stalin's autocratic power, and would have crushed his opponents in similar fashion had he dared.

It wasn't that many years later Khruhschev was pounding his shoe on a podium in NYC screaming "We will bury you!" I suspect his ghost is smiling at Obama's antics.
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The continuing aftermath of the betrayals are deep and beyond imaginable, except in ones nightmares. In fact, ever since Woodrow Wilson, the edifice of America has been steadily chipped away. And Obama Inc is the regime, in place, to complete said destruction aka "transformation" - http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/07/08/putin-obama-knee-deep-in-cooperative-efforts-russian-troops-training-on-u-s-soil-what-are-they-up-to-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/

Shiver America timbers. The entire west too!

Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/
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"I mean, imagine if a nation decided to normalize relations — if we play a little historical scrabble — mind-scrabble — with a Hitler, after having killed six million of its own people — six million Jews, say? It’s not thinkable."

Of course it's thinkable!

If Nazi Germany had won World War II, all the world's nations would have rushed to established diplomatic relations with it. In fact, Nazi Germany would have become the role model for the Arab Middle East.

This would hardly be the first time in history that a nation achieved diplomatic recognition despite a ghastly human rights record.

For you science-fiction fans: Read the "alternate history" novel "Fatherland," or see the made-for-TV movie of the same name. The time is 1960, 15 years after Nazi Germany won World War II. The U.S. and Nazi Germany are locked in a deadly Cold War-type stalemate. But everyone hopes that the upcoming summit between Hitler and President Kennedy will ease international tensions. And nobody cares to ask what really happened to those Jews anyway.
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"But everyone hopes that the upcoming summit between Hitler and President Kennedy will ease international tensions."

Bear in mind that the President Kennedy in this novel is President Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, and known sympathizer of the Nazis when he served as America's ambassador to Britain.

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