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Ed Driscoll

Interview: Helen Smith Talks Men on Strike

June 17th, 2013 - 12:05 am

MR. DRISCOLL:  There’s a statistic in your book that I didn’t know. You write that, “In 2010, the latest suicide statistics show that 38,364 people killed themselves nationally and 30,277 of those were men.” One suicide is a man you mention in your book named Thomas Ball, whom you describe as “a man who set himself on fire on the courthouse steps because he felt jerked around by family court, was barely worth mentioning on the evening news for his dramatic ending. Ball, a fifty-eight-year-old New Hampshire man, stated that he was quote ‘done being bullied for being a man’ by the family court system.”

Which I guess leads to a two-part question: do people believe that the suicide rate is that skewed towards men, and do they give any thought as to the reason why?

DR. SMITH:  Good question.  No, I think when you hear about suicide, people think about who attempts suicide, and those people who attempt suicide are — women tend to do that more often.  And usually, either women will get help, or they don’t tend to use a lethal means.

But men tend to — I think women do it more as a cry for help, whereas men do it sort of to end hopelessness, at least that’s my — you know, from my twenty-year experience working with men who are suicidal.  And I think it’s just sort of a final thing for them.  But our society, when you actually look at the media, they always — even on a suicide site, they’ll often have a picture of a woman or they’ll talk about getting women help.  But we really don’t think about men.  We don’t — our society is not empathetic to men in the same sense that they’re empathetic to women.

We don’t help them get the mental health care that they might need.  And in addition, men won’t go for mental health care.  And as a practitioner, I truly believe this is because in part — I mean, in part, of course, it’s conditioning.  Men, of course, to some degree, are conditioned to believe that they don’t need any help.  They are more fearful to ask for help.  But it’s with good reason.  It’s because a lot of times if men do complain, they’re seen as being a whiner.  And there just isn’t the societal outpouring of empathy that we have for a woman who has emotional problems.

So when men are depressed, they’re left on their own to solve the problem.  I think men are also reluctant to go to a mental health practitioner, the majority of whom are women.  And I’ve heard from so many men — I mean, this is a bit anecdotal — but I’ve heard from so many men that they’ll go to a — you know, a therapist, and they will tend to be more oriented towards women, or they won’t really understand the male point of view as well.

And I think that tends to make men feel that there isn’t any help available or that they would be reluctant to go.  And so yes, I think our society — and I don’t think our society sees this as important.  If men kill themselves, it’s just oh, another man gone.  And we see men — there’s this feeling in our society that men are expendable.  And I think that’s unfortunate, and I think that perception needs to change.

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I would have to agree with Real Deal. Have you read any text books lately? Most if not all are now written by raging leftists who can barely contain their hatred of the Founding Fathers, at least in the humanities and social sciences. History textbooks are one big overview of all the sins of the white, male, Christian leaders, and a favorable presentation of those who were their "victims". The authors do not even attempt to hide their extreme bias.
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The ironic thing is that the white male and his Western Culture, warts and all, has done more to advance the cause of individual liberty and equality than any other groups in the history of man kind. Now he's the the bad guy. Look around ladies, there is no other culture where women are men's equals. Islamic? Fat chance. Asian? Only where Western influence has taken root. African? Nope. South American? Again Western cultural influence.

White male children are conditioned to hate themselves in our public schools through a skewed cirruculum, half truths, and outright lies. They are further attacked by sexualizing them at young ages to confuse them during their adolecent years.
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Hmm - I 'went Galt' over 35 years ago. I divorced my wife of 12 years - and was granted custody of our 4 year old daughter that same day. No easy feat back in those days, I was determined - persistent - even in the face of a lawyer who kept telling me I was 'going against the grain'. I convinced him I was serious and he either needed to get on board with the idea or I'd find another lawyer - he got the message. And a lot of my money. You'd have to know my ex-wife to know why I was so persistent.

Anyway what I found out about women was quite telling. Being a single dad made me quite attractive to many women. But they were interested in me for what I was doing for my daughter - providing for her - and thats what they wanted for their own children - and for her too - a provider. But the most surprising thing I found is women aren't much interested in raising another woman's child! Trust me - the image in books and stories about the step-mother isn't over-done. And why don't you hear much about the mean old step-dad? Because guys for the most part are quite agreeable to raising other men's children as their own. Women? Not so much.

After a few one-way relationships that seemed to be going nowhere but in the direction of the GF I was living with at the time I got tired of playing baby-sitter for their kids (favor seldom returned!) - tired of supplying (paying for) a better car than I was driving for the current GF - tired of making up the bulk of the rent and bills - I decided my daughter and I would live alone. Even after she graduated high school and entered college and moved away from home I continued to live alone. And still do today. What is the worst line I've ever heard a woman say when I ask them why we should live together? "Cause I'm worth it"! Err... no you aren't honey! But nice try! Almost every ex-GF has claimed that same "Cause I'm worth it"!

I've had friends ask me what my Harley Electra Glide cost - my reply "About what a wife would"! I see it in their eyes - they'd love to have a motorcycle but the 'little woman' won't let them. These are the same guys that are 'restricted' to those teeny tiny little home theater speakers cause the wife don't like big speakers (mine are massive!) "in my home". Contrast that with the same guy saying he doesn't deny his wife anything she wishes for (within $$$ reason). And most of these guys can afford a motorcycle - they just can't afford the divorce. To which I say get divorced early on or forget it altogether.
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well, women have proven again and again how brilliant they are with all the inventions and scient...what's that? oh.

well women are proving they are mens' equal by not needing any extra rights in the work pla.... oh yeah, sorry, i forgot about that affirmative action thing.

well in government they ... most gov. programs are designed to help women?

wait a minute. does every aspect of life that women are involved in have special privileges? on t.v. they are always portrayed as the smart one. is that a lie? is there any area where women have 'competed' and did well w/o special treatment? oh yeah, spending somebody else's hard earned $$.
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"The state transfers men’s production to women and children"

Yes I get this and agree but I would go further. It also transfers the production of private sector men to the public sector. We need to go Galt against the whole damn system. I always get a kick out of public service union shills who claim that they want everyone to have what they call "decent wages and benefits". Their union bosses - at least those who know anything about economics - must cringe when they hear such things. Their fat salaries, pensions and benefits for life that they receive for putting relatively worthless things into the common pot are only valuable because the rest of us toil in obscurity and at much lower compensation to provide the real goods and services that they consume.
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Tune in, drop out, and don't set yourself on fire. Got it.
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Wow!
What an exotic looking strikingly beauty woman she is . Her husband must be a saint to share her with so many down in the dumps men seeking a voice to express themselves with their poetry from the depths of the man cave
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Two points, re: the media portrayal of men, it is tiresome, women are constantly put in the roles of men at a rate far, far, higher than reality. The classic was an episode of NCIS Los Angeles where the female agent was sparring with a male agent that was a former SEAL and is a large man. Well the didn't show her beating him, but she went toe to toe with him, which of course is ridiculous. Why this need to make a bizarre equality between men and women? As a father of two boys, I constantly here parents trying to equate the physical abilities of girls with boys. Why? It is idiotic and effectively impossible due to hormonal and physical differences. There was a female high school baseball pitcher that got a scholarship to a tiny school, based on her stats (obviously she threw knuckleballs) no boy would make any collegiate team, anywhere. So why was she selected?

Probably 95% of police detectives are men over 40, but you would think 50% were women over 30 if you watch TV.

The second point is part of the problem is the feminizing of men. Manliness used to be, honor, determination, fidelity, diligence, blessing our children. It has become porn, adultery, sloth, alcohol and drugs (not saying it's ever been perfect, just talking percentages).
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The ironic thing is that the white male and his Western Culture, warts and all, has done more to advance the cause of individual liberty and equality than any other groups in the history of man kind. Now he's the the bad guy. Look around ladies, there is no other culture where women are men's equals. Islamic? Fat chance. Asian? Only where Western influence has taken root. African? Nope. South American? Again Western cultural influence.

White male children are conditioned to hate themselves in our public schools through a skewed cirruculum, half truths, and outright lies. They are further attacked by sexualizing them at young ages to confuse them during their adolecent years.
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Real Deal, I don't think it's usually that blatant. It's like Dr. Smith says, boys are made to feel bad about who they are by the very structure of the school. God bless those teachers that understand and appreciate boys! But there are some that don't, we had one, that called us in telling us how squirrely our son was and asked if he was "slow" (in some many words). I asked if she'd looked at his file (of course she hadn't) and seen that until her class he had straight A's. That awful teacher managed to take a great student and mess him up, simply because he did not fit the girl model of student.
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I would have to agree with Real Deal. Have you read any text books lately? Most if not all are now written by raging leftists who can barely contain their hatred of the Founding Fathers, at least in the humanities and social sciences. History textbooks are one big overview of all the sins of the white, male, Christian leaders, and a favorable presentation of those who were their "victims". The authors do not even attempt to hide their extreme bias.
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I disagree, its deliberate and blatent. The reason you don't think so is that the process was gradual and you were told things in school, your kids are told even more leftist propaganda, and their kids told even more.

When did your school start teaching sex ed? What grade? Did it include homosexuality as a social norm? Kids are now being taught this stuff as early as 5 or 6 years old in some places. What are they taught about American History? How much are the positive aspects of our nation taught and how much are the negative emphasized? What do they hear about the Founding Fathers? Are they presented as learned forward thinking men who in spite of any flaws should be admired for what they wrought or "rich white slave owners"?
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many years ago, on a first date, i was informed by a young divorcee that the only reason she would consider remarriage was for financial security for her children. a few months later she didn't understand why i wasn't interested in marrying her.
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Unfortunately, my brother ended up marrying someone in that position with 3 kids. As soon as the last one was up and out, she filed for divorce. What a surprise.
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Prostitution isn't the World's oldest profession; marriage is.
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I wonder how many young men have gotten vasectomies as a vaccination against child support? How many women who want children are going to have to settle for dubious sperm from sperm banks. "Ayup my cousin Elmo gets beer money from the sperm bank. He claims to be a genius but it took him two tries to graduate from high school. He had to work at failing."
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These people need to produce worthwhile evidence of the ability that they think they have.
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