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		<title>By: The Death Of The Mainstream Media &#171; Tai-Chi Policy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Death Of The Mainstream Media &#171; Tai-Chi Policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2009 Posted by taoist in Politics.  Tags: Accountability, Bias, The Media, Transparency trackback  Is happening at their own hands. Given the choice between cleaning up their act or becoming partisan ideologues, they&#8217;ve [...]</description>
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		<title>By: heyyoukidsgetoffmylawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>heyyoukidsgetoffmylawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note to the curious regarding the Churchill paraphrase:

&quot;We will have no truce or parley with you, or the grisly gang who work your wicked will. You do your worst-and we will do our best&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;We will have no truce or parley with you, or the grisly gang who work your wicked will. You do your worst-and we will do our best&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cottrell &#124; 14 September 2009 &#171; Regurgitation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cottrell &#124; 14 September 2009 &#171; Regurgitation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4 Washington Post loses $1.10 per copy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Al Reasin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Reasin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My quick and dirty estimate:

PA avenue was covered from Freedom Plaza to the Capital; that is about 1 mile (WH to Capitol 1.2 miles) of people on a street 6 lanes wide or 80 ft from Googe data.  A mile is 5280 ft x 80 ft at 2.5 sq feet per person (Obama&#039;s inauguration number for the mall) gives us over 168,960 people just there at any one time.  This human traffic lasted for 3 hours from the media.  With the average human walking speed of 3 miles per hour, that is 168,960 people passing a point every 33 minutes or over 3 hours being 9 x 168,960 = 1,520,640.  Although, like me not all people started at Freedom Plaza.  Many went directly to the Capitol for good &quot;seats&quot; and not all came down PA Ave.  The police also asked the protesters to leave the plaza two hours early.  Nor does it count the time after 12:30 when people were still arriving or the people on the sidewalks along PA Ave.  So the number of 1.5 million may be low.

Now what happen if congress ignores us.  Many I talked to are worried that congress will ignore us.  That may be helped by the minimal coverage by the media, even FOX concentrated on the Yale student&#039;s disappearance said my wife, who could not attend, and by the low media estimates of participants; 10s of thousands stated FOX, not 100&#039;s of thousand or millions as was more likely the case; 1.5 million from different police officers questioned.

So what if congress ignores us?  Well, we would not want to emulate Shay&#039;s Rebellion if at all possible.  While it awakened the politicians of the time to the limitations of the Articles of Confederation, it cost 4 Patriots lives and many more wounded.  I can imagine if the same sort of armed insurrection started how this Administration would react; an excuse for martial law and sedition acts as was done during President Wilson&#039;s Administration for just criticizing government.  A reported 100,000 people were arrested, including the Socialists Party&#039;s presidential candidate, for their freedom of speech exercise.  

I worry that if our &quot;march&quot; on DC Saturday will not stop ObamaCare or even if the government option is dropped, the economic freedom issues (i.e. mandatory health care requirement under government mandates) and civil liberties (i.e. IRS held financial and doctors/hospital held medical records released to the government) will remain in some form.  I don&#039;t trust the conference committee&#039;s outcome even if the Senate bill is milder in appearance. 

What is a better example is the Income Tax Revolt in Tennessee in 1999.  Oh, you didn&#039;t hear about that revolt; neither had I since the MSM seems to have neglected to report much on this and it was before blogs were well known, so go to Intapundit&#039;s report at http://glennreynolds.com/?p=8 for some details.  We should be prepared to follow that example set in Tennessee after the governor and legislature proposed to vote in a state income tax in 1999.  The governor and legislature backed down and to this day TN is income tax free.  As with MLK tactics, perseverance does win when you are right.

With the reported 26,000 TEA Party organizations in our great country, we could make life difficult for those cloistered in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My quick and dirty estimate:</p>
<p>PA avenue was covered from Freedom Plaza to the Capital; that is about 1 mile (WH to Capitol 1.2 miles) of people on a street 6 lanes wide or 80 ft from Googe data.  A mile is 5280 ft x 80 ft at 2.5 sq feet per person (Obama&#8217;s inauguration number for the mall) gives us over 168,960 people just there at any one time.  This human traffic lasted for 3 hours from the media.  With the average human walking speed of 3 miles per hour, that is 168,960 people passing a point every 33 minutes or over 3 hours being 9 x 168,960 = 1,520,640.  Although, like me not all people started at Freedom Plaza.  Many went directly to the Capitol for good &#8220;seats&#8221; and not all came down PA Ave.  The police also asked the protesters to leave the plaza two hours early.  Nor does it count the time after 12:30 when people were still arriving or the people on the sidewalks along PA Ave.  So the number of 1.5 million may be low.</p>
<p>Now what happen if congress ignores us.  Many I talked to are worried that congress will ignore us.  That may be helped by the minimal coverage by the media, even FOX concentrated on the Yale student&#8217;s disappearance said my wife, who could not attend, and by the low media estimates of participants; 10s of thousands stated FOX, not 100&#8242;s of thousand or millions as was more likely the case; 1.5 million from different police officers questioned.</p>
<p>So what if congress ignores us?  Well, we would not want to emulate Shay&#8217;s Rebellion if at all possible.  While it awakened the politicians of the time to the limitations of the Articles of Confederation, it cost 4 Patriots lives and many more wounded.  I can imagine if the same sort of armed insurrection started how this Administration would react; an excuse for martial law and sedition acts as was done during President Wilson&#8217;s Administration for just criticizing government.  A reported 100,000 people were arrested, including the Socialists Party&#8217;s presidential candidate, for their freedom of speech exercise.  </p>
<p>I worry that if our &#8220;march&#8221; on DC Saturday will not stop ObamaCare or even if the government option is dropped, the economic freedom issues (i.e. mandatory health care requirement under government mandates) and civil liberties (i.e. IRS held financial and doctors/hospital held medical records released to the government) will remain in some form.  I don&#8217;t trust the conference committee&#8217;s outcome even if the Senate bill is milder in appearance. </p>
<p>What is a better example is the Income Tax Revolt in Tennessee in 1999.  Oh, you didn&#8217;t hear about that revolt; neither had I since the MSM seems to have neglected to report much on this and it was before blogs were well known, so go to Intapundit&#8217;s report at <a href="http://glennreynolds.com/?p=8" rel="nofollow">http://glennreynolds.com/?p=8</a> for some details.  We should be prepared to follow that example set in Tennessee after the governor and legislature proposed to vote in a state income tax in 1999.  The governor and legislature backed down and to this day TN is income tax free.  As with MLK tactics, perseverance does win when you are right.</p>
<p>With the reported 26,000 TEA Party organizations in our great country, we could make life difficult for those cloistered in DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Tulsa Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tulsa Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graduated college in the &#039;60s, joined the Air Force, spent a couple of years in &#039;Nam.  Now I&#039;m old and broke, and will never contribute to Harvard again after the Somers disgrace, confirmed just now by that rancid &quot;Black Studies&quot; so-called professor.  Bet his college papers are Top Secret, just like Obama&#039;s.  Never watch TV &quot;news&quot; and don&#039;t buy &quot;newspapers,&quot; but consider myself well informed with the Net.   

Couldn&#039;t go to DC this weekend, but hope the American people will recognize the Democrats as the enemies of our country that they are, and throw &#039;em out. Obama is a narcissistic, psychopathic liar, an arrogant, dangerous egomaniac unqualified for dog catcher, though he did catch one (styrofoam Greek temples, anyone?).

Dems have worked for 40-years to create our health insurance cost crisis.  We could fix it very easily: 1) tort reform; 2) tax credits; 3) interstate competition; 4) Reduce burdensome regulation.  Fat chance, because of course their goal is to control our lives.  They want us broke and dependent! We&#039;re on Hayek&#039;s &quot;road to serfdom.&quot;

I see a major economic collapse coming, entirely Democrat created, with malice aforethought. Maybe this will get people&#039;s attention.  Don&#039;t believe the younger generation&#039;ll permit Red Charlie Rangle, Meatball Pelosi, and Harry the Grifter to ruin their lives with 70% taxes. We&#039;re about to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graduated college in the &#8217;60s, joined the Air Force, spent a couple of years in &#8216;Nam.  Now I&#8217;m old and broke, and will never contribute to Harvard again after the Somers disgrace, confirmed just now by that rancid &#8220;Black Studies&#8221; so-called professor.  Bet his college papers are Top Secret, just like Obama&#8217;s.  Never watch TV &#8220;news&#8221; and don&#8217;t buy &#8220;newspapers,&#8221; but consider myself well informed with the Net.   </p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t go to DC this weekend, but hope the American people will recognize the Democrats as the enemies of our country that they are, and throw &#8216;em out. Obama is a narcissistic, psychopathic liar, an arrogant, dangerous egomaniac unqualified for dog catcher, though he did catch one (styrofoam Greek temples, anyone?).</p>
<p>Dems have worked for 40-years to create our health insurance cost crisis.  We could fix it very easily: 1) tort reform; 2) tax credits; 3) interstate competition; 4) Reduce burdensome regulation.  Fat chance, because of course their goal is to control our lives.  They want us broke and dependent! We&#8217;re on Hayek&#8217;s &#8220;road to serfdom.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see a major economic collapse coming, entirely Democrat created, with malice aforethought. Maybe this will get people&#8217;s attention.  Don&#8217;t believe the younger generation&#8217;ll permit Red Charlie Rangle, Meatball Pelosi, and Harry the Grifter to ruin their lives with 70% taxes. We&#8217;re about to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: HARRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>HARRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27120.html

Meanwhile POLITICO&#039;s big story?  Obama critics are probably racist!  Source?  The Congressional Black Caucus.</description>
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<p>Meanwhile POLITICO&#8217;s big story?  Obama critics are probably racist!  Source?  The Congressional Black Caucus.</p>
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		<title>By: HARRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>HARRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is POLITICO re-directing our attention?  Criticism of Obama is racist!: 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27120.html

Their source?  Memebers of the Congressional Black Caucus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is POLITICO re-directing our attention?  Criticism of Obama is racist!: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27120.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27120.html</a></p>
<p>Their source?  Memebers of the Congressional Black Caucus.</p>
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		<title>By: RSP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Fembup:
Though I generally agree with your post, I think the wisdom of Red Sox fans remains questionable.</description>
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Though I generally agree with your post, I think the wisdom of Red Sox fans remains questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Fresh Bilge &#187; Tea Party Numbers&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresh Bilge &#187; Tea Party Numbers&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Saturdays at Kyle Field. That ABC News would report this tells you something about why the MSM is  dying  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MarkButter in SoCal</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkButter in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>melanzan - make up for it volume . .lol

I think this has been a much steeper and faster decline than dead tree &amp; MSM envisioned.  20-30 years ago, alot of newspapers were afternoon rags, tossed to neighbors doorsteps by kids like me.  This allowed for better (or even attempted) fact checking because of time of delivery and when dad/mom got home and watched the evening news they had something that either supported or contradicted what they had just read. . so there was at least some, albeit little, objectivity or ability to compare &quot;facts&quot; since at that time old hands like David Brinkley, earlier Cronkite and the like had established their teeth.  I mean, can any of us see Cronkite running with the Bush/Rathergate story?

In the 70&#039;s and early 80&#039;s, which were proceeded by the very liberal late 60&#039;s early 70&#039;s, anybody in J-school reported and taught mostly liberal points of view because it was in &quot;vogue,&quot; the D&#039;s had commanding majorities and many thought the young of that era, coming of age in the late 60&#039;s/early 70&#039;s would naturally have and raise very liberal kids and continue the trend.  

Therefore, take college campus ratios of liberal vs. conservatives and these kids, now adults, have never been questioned or pressed to prove their viewpoints.  Having not done so, as the article implies, they now are in a corner and do not know how respond because what they have always done has always been approved of, whether it be college profs, employers or their friends.  Even the president, when he speaks of overhead equals profit, really has no sense of how the world operates.  

For many of us in the business world, we took the &quot;C&quot; in creative writing and tried for the &quot;A&quot; in business class.  With today&#039;s reporters, it was the opposite and since they were told of how the world operates or should operate from the liberal point of view, they really have no concept of actually how the world operates.  

It is so apparent when you talke to them with the example of, yes, if I could switch my employees to an insurance plan that costs me 8% of my payroll compared to what I pay now for their employer provided insurance, they have absolutely no grasp and are aghast on why you would do that.  That is because they have been taught that everyone should operate to the benevolence (sp) of everyone, no matter what it costs you.  And if not possible, the gov&#039;t should do that, no matter what it costs because for them there are no costs, only outcomes that need to be achieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>melanzan &#8211; make up for it volume . .lol</p>
<p>I think this has been a much steeper and faster decline than dead tree &amp; MSM envisioned.  20-30 years ago, alot of newspapers were afternoon rags, tossed to neighbors doorsteps by kids like me.  This allowed for better (or even attempted) fact checking because of time of delivery and when dad/mom got home and watched the evening news they had something that either supported or contradicted what they had just read. . so there was at least some, albeit little, objectivity or ability to compare &#8220;facts&#8221; since at that time old hands like David Brinkley, earlier Cronkite and the like had established their teeth.  I mean, can any of us see Cronkite running with the Bush/Rathergate story?</p>
<p>In the 70&#8242;s and early 80&#8242;s, which were proceeded by the very liberal late 60&#8242;s early 70&#8242;s, anybody in J-school reported and taught mostly liberal points of view because it was in &#8220;vogue,&#8221; the D&#8217;s had commanding majorities and many thought the young of that era, coming of age in the late 60&#8242;s/early 70&#8242;s would naturally have and raise very liberal kids and continue the trend.  </p>
<p>Therefore, take college campus ratios of liberal vs. conservatives and these kids, now adults, have never been questioned or pressed to prove their viewpoints.  Having not done so, as the article implies, they now are in a corner and do not know how respond because what they have always done has always been approved of, whether it be college profs, employers or their friends.  Even the president, when he speaks of overhead equals profit, really has no sense of how the world operates.  </p>
<p>For many of us in the business world, we took the &#8220;C&#8221; in creative writing and tried for the &#8220;A&#8221; in business class.  With today&#8217;s reporters, it was the opposite and since they were told of how the world operates or should operate from the liberal point of view, they really have no concept of actually how the world operates.  </p>
<p>It is so apparent when you talke to them with the example of, yes, if I could switch my employees to an insurance plan that costs me 8% of my payroll compared to what I pay now for their employer provided insurance, they have absolutely no grasp and are aghast on why you would do that.  That is because they have been taught that everyone should operate to the benevolence (sp) of everyone, no matter what it costs you.  And if not possible, the gov&#8217;t should do that, no matter what it costs because for them there are no costs, only outcomes that need to be achieved.</p>
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