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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;California Voters Don&#8217;t Just Say No; They Say NO Way!&#8221; &#8212; Updated</title>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, you should run for office in California. Seriously. I&#039;d vote for you, and so would many others. Maybe not liberals, but Americans would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, you should run for office in California. Seriously. I&#8217;d vote for you, and so would many others. Maybe not liberals, but Americans would.</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Elyi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micha Elyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lessee, that was a special off-year election in May, a very atypical time for elections in the Golden State, and the scribbler class is *surprised* that turnout was low?

What surprises me is that for a predictably super-low turnout election, the margin by which the tax hiking and fiddling measures were pounded. Where was the turnout for the unions?  The special interests should&#039;a hit this one outta the park.  Yet they whiffed it.

When the teachers union and their government worker compadres can&#039;t beat the home schoolers at the polls, that&#039;s signals something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lessee, that was a special off-year election in May, a very atypical time for elections in the Golden State, and the scribbler class is *surprised* that turnout was low?</p>
<p>What surprises me is that for a predictably super-low turnout election, the margin by which the tax hiking and fiddling measures were pounded. Where was the turnout for the unions?  The special interests should&#8217;a hit this one outta the park.  Yet they whiffed it.</p>
<p>When the teachers union and their government worker compadres can&#8217;t beat the home schoolers at the polls, that&#8217;s signals something.</p>
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		<title>By: PS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Limbaugh has it wrong.  This isn&#039;t an awakening tea-party type protest, but indicative of an attidude that is permeating the country.

As an Ex-Californian, I look on the unraveling of that fair state with sadness mixed with an uncomfortable amount of schadenfreude.  Considering that Obama won the state so easily, it&#039;s clear that those who voted No on these ballot initiatives can be most easily divided into three groups:

 - the traditional anti-tax, anti-big government conservatives
 - Obama supporters who were smitten with him and the hopeandchange mantra but, in their own version of a Saul/Damascus revelation are having second thoughts about the size and scope of government (charitably, I&#039;d like to think this group is large, but it probably isn&#039;t)
 - Obama supporters who want all the goodies of government but have no desire to have to pay for any of it themselves.

It&#039;s this latter group that has gotten the State into the mess it&#039;s in.  Anyone who voted for Obama but Nyet on these ballot initiatives got some &#039;splainin&#039; to do.  Who do they think will bail out the profligate ways of the state?  Do they expect the citizens of Kansas or Delaware to support your habit?  What programs or policies should be cut from the state budget?  All we&#039;re hearing from are the traditional ant-tax folks, and the pro-big government-types who voted yes.  Well, I don&#039;t really care about the arguments these two groups have because I can cite them without even hearing from them.  It&#039;s the flippers I&#039;m curious about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Limbaugh has it wrong.  This isn&#8217;t an awakening tea-party type protest, but indicative of an attidude that is permeating the country.</p>
<p>As an Ex-Californian, I look on the unraveling of that fair state with sadness mixed with an uncomfortable amount of schadenfreude.  Considering that Obama won the state so easily, it&#8217;s clear that those who voted No on these ballot initiatives can be most easily divided into three groups:</p>
<p> &#8211; the traditional anti-tax, anti-big government conservatives<br />
 &#8211; Obama supporters who were smitten with him and the hopeandchange mantra but, in their own version of a Saul/Damascus revelation are having second thoughts about the size and scope of government (charitably, I&#8217;d like to think this group is large, but it probably isn&#8217;t)<br />
 &#8211; Obama supporters who want all the goodies of government but have no desire to have to pay for any of it themselves.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this latter group that has gotten the State into the mess it&#8217;s in.  Anyone who voted for Obama but Nyet on these ballot initiatives got some &#8216;splainin&#8217; to do.  Who do they think will bail out the profligate ways of the state?  Do they expect the citizens of Kansas or Delaware to support your habit?  What programs or policies should be cut from the state budget?  All we&#8217;re hearing from are the traditional ant-tax folks, and the pro-big government-types who voted yes.  Well, I don&#8217;t really care about the arguments these two groups have because I can cite them without even hearing from them.  It&#8217;s the flippers I&#8217;m curious about.</p>
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		<title>By: ZZMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZZMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, now we can start by firing all the teachers, and putting the administrators to work on 5-year plans.  Then we&#039;ll put all the policemen and firemen &quot;on call&quot;, so we only need to pay them for time spent responding to calls.

Then we can get the commissions - like the California Coastal Commission - to work thinking up great new ways to follow Oregon&#039;s brave path forward into a green civilization, uncluttered by the trappings of technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, now we can start by firing all the teachers, and putting the administrators to work on 5-year plans.  Then we&#8217;ll put all the policemen and firemen &#8220;on call&#8221;, so we only need to pay them for time spent responding to calls.</p>
<p>Then we can get the commissions &#8211; like the California Coastal Commission &#8211; to work thinking up great new ways to follow Oregon&#8217;s brave path forward into a green civilization, uncluttered by the trappings of technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Driscoll &#187; Hey, Remember Arnold Was Considered A Populist?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Driscoll &#187; Hey, Remember Arnold Was Considered A Populist?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the halcyon mists of 2003. These days, &#8220;Schwarzenegger knocks Calif. voters&#8221; for yesterday&#8217;s clear rejection of Sacramento&#8217;s normal cycle of tax and spend, rinse and repeat. Filed under: Bobos In [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the halcyon mists of 2003. These days, &#8220;Schwarzenegger knocks Calif. voters&#8221; for yesterday&#8217;s clear rejection of Sacramento&#8217;s normal cycle of tax and spend, rinse and repeat. Filed under: Bobos In [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush Limbaugh unfortunately is probably right. Barack Obama will now find an excuse to give money to California.  It is allegedly too big to fail.  Also, we should not forget the damage that can be caused by &quot;progressive&quot; judges---who often decide that the will of the voters contradicts the U.S. Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush Limbaugh unfortunately is probably right. Barack Obama will now find an excuse to give money to California.  It is allegedly too big to fail.  Also, we should not forget the damage that can be caused by &#8220;progressive&#8221; judges&#8212;who often decide that the will of the voters contradicts the U.S. Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: frank martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could offer some help. Perhaps we should have a mass web based &#039;brainstorming&#039; session where we offer suggestions on how to cut the budget. 

My cuts -

1. Cut all State Board appointments and end most state boards
2. Privatize Caltrans
3. Privatize the DMV
4. Outsource or privatize all State IT systems.
5. Dismantle CARB
6. Stop all subsidized car programs and end &#039;per diem&#039; pay for State workers and elected officials.
7. Cut legislative staff by 50%
8. New constitutional amendment to make state legislature part time. 
9. New constitutional amendment to cease all government payrolls when there is no budget.
10. Sell more oil leases. NOW!

There, that should just about do it. The next trick is to try to come up with a set of incentives to get businesses to stay in California or cause them to move back. Im thinking that corporate tax rates need to drop to near zero for that to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could offer some help. Perhaps we should have a mass web based &#8216;brainstorming&#8217; session where we offer suggestions on how to cut the budget. </p>
<p>My cuts -</p>
<p>1. Cut all State Board appointments and end most state boards<br />
2. Privatize Caltrans<br />
3. Privatize the DMV<br />
4. Outsource or privatize all State IT systems.<br />
5. Dismantle CARB<br />
6. Stop all subsidized car programs and end &#8216;per diem&#8217; pay for State workers and elected officials.<br />
7. Cut legislative staff by 50%<br />
8. New constitutional amendment to make state legislature part time.<br />
9. New constitutional amendment to cease all government payrolls when there is no budget.<br />
10. Sell more oil leases. NOW!</p>
<p>There, that should just about do it. The next trick is to try to come up with a set of incentives to get businesses to stay in California or cause them to move back. Im thinking that corporate tax rates need to drop to near zero for that to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Calif Voters Order Govt Pay Cuts; No New Taxes, Gov Starts Slashing Budget, Services &#171; Peace and Freedom Promises</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calif Voters Order Govt Pay Cuts; No New Taxes, Gov Starts Slashing Budget, Services &#171; Peace and Freedom Promises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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