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Accountability, Not a Purge: What Conservatives Want From the GOP

March 19th, 2014 - 12:45 pm

References to Stalinist ideological purges, and Trotsky’s fate, bear no resemblance to the Tea Party/conservative  movement’s increased willingness to directly confront party leadership, which is currently constructed of ideological moderates.

RINOism, whatever the definition, is not the chief concern. Well … it is the chief concern in one manner: it is troubling to a GOP electorate — of which the largest portion self-identifies as “conservative” rather than “moderate” — to see party leadership perpetually gauging just how closely they can embrace the Constitution per his or her daily schedule. But ideology is not the underlying problem creating the party’s rift; instead, the rift arises from the issue of accountability and representative governance.

Adherence to the stated purpose of the House as being the home of federal representatives most closely bound and responsible to the district they serve — that’s the root desire of conservatives, and a party leadership that respects that principle as the first order would significantly repair its standing, no ideological shift required.

A lovely anecdote from the Constitutional Convention frames the concern: George Washington, aware of the sway his voice held within the chamber, kept generally silent during the sessions. However, he chose to speak up regarding the apportionment of House representatives to the states; he wished for fewer citizens per representative to keep the official more tightly in the hand of the people.

In contrast, a hallmark of statism — actually, an element of the definition of statism — is the subjugation of local governance and interests to the national concern, to the centralized power. The House, and for our interests, the GOP, simply does not fulfill this mandate.

In contacting several campaigns and local officials for background on the 2014 primary races, I’ve heard some tales of corruption, intimidation, and K Street/Alinsky sludge within the party, from leadership to the town and county level. Skin-crawling stuff. Dopey Scandal teleplay stuff.

And I have yet to hear of the culprits being connected to good-standing Tea Party/conservative officials and campaign teams. Instead, the target always seems to be them; the conspirator, always from the “establishment.”

The party leadership in the House does not currently include anyone who consistently serves as a conservative, who consistently advocates and votes for the life, liberty, and property rights of the individual. Importantly, this is not a problem in itself. On a district-by-district basis — I live in New England, which currently has only one(!) GOP official in either the House or Senate, Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire — Tea Partiers/conservatives can and should be supportive of whomever the district is willing to elect from the party. If the district is moderate to liberal and elects a moderate Republican, that official should be allowed to fulfill his or her moderate campaign promises.

The problem with a GOP leadership consisting entirely of moderates arises in its tendency to muscle out conservative representatives from conservative districts — and I believe this stems from moderate ideology being more slanted towards statism in general, though that’s a separate topic. But leadership simply is not allowing conservatives to be accountable to their electoratesAnd worse, the establishment is violating its pledge to remain neutral during primary season. 

Leadership does not allow Tea Party/conservative representatives to serve their districts in the manner each district prefers, and with accountability to his or her campaign platforms and promises which secured electoral victory.

That’s the root. Tactics.

Ideology is a chief concern, but the behind-the-scenes power grabs, the subjugation of local concerns in servitude of a non-Constitutional interpretation of the House’s purpose, is the cause of the rift, and it’s worse than you know. I intend to expose what I can of it here.

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Read me carefully:

We need accountability, purge and inquisition against the LEFT.

This is my proposal:
* BHO declared guilty of treason and ALL of his enables including the f*ing press, and the DEMS.
* FINE THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE
* Execute the heads for treason (Clinton, Obama)
* Shutdown the IRS and start a new from scrap
* Shut down the EPA, FED, and other stupid tyrannical agencies.

Before any dumb starts me with the democracy and rule of law here, let me say that ALL these actions are the RESTITUTION of the Rule of Law and the State of Right. Abolish stupid ammendments (Senators are not meant to be elected by popular votes), and institute the SEPARATION of ECONOMY and the STATE, for the same reasons as Church and State.

Enough is enough.
31 weeks ago
31 weeks ago Link To Comment
bobbcat, you and I are buds.

We are THE regulars here, along with some of our other long time friends. We don't have to always agree 100% on everything (I wish Tex would come back), but we always have each other's back on the big things.

On THIS one...I get it. I really do.

The lack of willingness for frontal confrontation...going belly to belly and bumping chests with the totalitarians has frustrated me as well. I can be pugnacious as hell when it comes to dealing with traitors, bullies, tyrants and the Obama cabal is filled with them.

You and the regulars here who are salt of the earth, good people...know that I did NOT like the entire slate of candidates run, called them "B" teamers and political oafs...and sometimes worse.

I also have been touting Jeff Sessions quite a bit. Along with Cruz and Lee I think they represent a clear, concise and coherent voice, articulating the frustration with the "once bitten, twice shy" element of the GOP.

Trey Gowdy is pretty pugnacious, less decorous and less prone to shaving off the sharp edges of his words. Good.

HOWEVER...we have to win.

I don't think ANYONE is "entitled" to a seat in government. I resent the notion of that entitlement. But, if we are doing acts of revenge...we are stupid. If we are "taking out" people like hitmen, we are insane.

Put up a great candidate against a weak one for the purposes of improving our fight, I'm squarely behind that.

Put up an imbecile and back him to "teach the other guy a lesson" and that is puerile, counterproductive and inane.

I WILL NOT back "just anybody" because McConnell or Cantor or Ryan or Rubio haven't been "strong enough" on EVERY lockstep issue.

Attacking good men and lumping them in with guys like McCain...who turn on Republicans and the base...is unfair, unwise and unsupportable.

The MORE a poster lumps in good and decent people...the less credibility his post has. If he/she lumps in EVERYONE who isn't a lockstep marcher...they have zero credibility.

Primary anyone and I'm ok with it. As long as the new guy is more likely to improve the seat....and yes, win. We cannot afford to lose. We have the nation at stake. I'm not going to support petty tyranny in order to replace grand tyranny.

We can make good men stronger...as long as we don't listen to fools who tell us good men are not good.

I absolutely refuse to trash Ryan, Rubio, Cantor, Thune, ...and I think the assault on McConnell is over the top, albeit with SOME credence.

My stance WILL be misrepresented, slandered, and lied about. Because the new breed doesn't measure up to the standards of the long time regulars here. They can't debate, so they lie.

You and I...and our long time friends here...can work this out between us. We have the goods. This new crowd...sucks for the most part. Not all. But quite a few of them. Maybe Roger leaving the helm has caused this, I don't know. The regulars here made this place special. We should strive to keep it special. And strive even harder to keep the country special.
31 weeks ago
31 weeks ago Link To Comment
Nope. A lot of us pretty much want a purge. McConnell, McCain, Boehner, etc are irredeemable statists. They proved that last time they had control of "two halves of two thirds of government". We The People cannot move forward with them in the way.
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No More Kings!
31 weeks ago
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I would be happy if the conservatives would only keep their promises: They continually run on promises of smaller government - When has the government actually shrunk? They campaign on lower taxes - When has that happened? They harp about fiscal responsibility, but ALWAYS vote to spend more. They are either lying or fools. Either way, most need to go.
31 weeks ago
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Those people you refer to are not conservatives. They're ruling class republicans - big difference. They tell you what you want to hear to get your vote, but never have any intention of delivering what they promise you. They want power just the same as their allies across the aisle.
31 weeks ago
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"Those people you refer to are not conservatives. They're ruling class republicans - big difference."

Bingo. Want to know who has the best track record of trying of sticking to conservative principles?

Look over voting records for the last 30 or 40 years. Turns out it's those bothersome SoCons.

Seems they actually have principles.

31 weeks ago
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I have a couple questions for the folks who feel that there should be no primary challenges to our elected GOP establishment members of Congress:

1. What is the purpose of a primary, if not to challenge a record that is inconsistent with their promises and your core beliefs?

2. If the establishment candidates are so good at their jobs, why are they concerned about a challenge? It should be a cakewalk for them.

If an establishment candidate wins the primary, the conservative voters support him/her in the general election. If the constitutional candidate wins the primary, the GOP establishment refuses to support him/her, disparages him/her through their media supporters, and occasionally even supports the Democrat opposition in the general election - especially if the Democrat is also a member of the Ruling Class.

3. Don't the establishment candidates need the votes of the constitutional conservatives to win the general election? How does disparaging their candidates in the media and refusing to support them in the general election campaign attract their votes? Let the candidates make their case to the primary voters and support the choice of the primary voters in the general election.

Don't let Karl Rove and his band of crony capitalists in the U.S. Chamber of Commerce convince you that the only road to victory is to support their handpicked candidates. If you wonder why those establishment Republicans change when they get to Washington, follow the money!
31 weeks ago
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DID Hercules in the task given him by the King not "purge" the Augean Stables? That Congress of the USA has become in its members fidelity to the Officer Corps of their respective political partys?

Declining, refusing? to honour their oaths to the Supreme Law of he Land that protects the natural rights of citizens from control by overarching government administrators. Oath and duty, contract, on which their courtesy title and perks of "Honourable" are based.

Preferrng, with not even the grace to pretend otherwise, fidelity to the Officer corps (corpse?) of their "exclusive gentlemens' clubs of the Party

Doesn't it then become the job of the plebes, the proletariate, the grunts, the members of the Party who DO remember the USA is a Constitutional Republic and NOT a royal court government to remind them to do the Right thing? And that without the grunts No Officer could do anything but prate and preen.

31 weeks ago
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No, I do believe we want and need a purge.
31 weeks ago
31 weeks ago Link To Comment
Purge during primaries. Support who wins.

Also, everyone, TAKE OVER YOUR LOCAL PARTY. You'll love it and they will be happy to see you. They even welcome the Ron Paul people because people who care about local politics want others to as well it validates who they are. Local rolls to State which rolls to National. If you hate the establishment, become the new establishment.
31 weeks ago
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http://bearingdrift.com/2014/03/10/slating-is-evil/

This is what happens when the conservatives get involved. The RINO's figure out a way to go around the new delegates.
30 weeks ago
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"Accountability" is nothing except one of those empty weasel words. It doesn't mean anything.

And whatever this guy is trying to say with this piece here, which starts out talking about making the Establishment leadership accountable, but then concludes with saying that TP/conservatives should be allowed to be accountable --

No, we just want the current Establishment gone. It is time for them to leave. All of them. Go away. Go away now.
31 weeks ago
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Why are you complicating this so much? The issue is quite simple. Establishment FDR Republicans have embraced big government. The Constitution has been abandoned by Establishment FDR Republicans for the payoff from crony capitalists who help re-elect them and guarantee them millions in lobbying income when they leave office. What has John Boehner done for the "little people," you know, the people that they are supposedly working for, since he has become Speaker of the House? Nothing other than humiliate all of us with his crocodile tears on national TEEVEE? What an embarrassment he is. When was the last time Mitch McConnell or John McCain did something to benefit their employers, that would be us. It is all about replenishing their coffers for the next election. They do not give a hot damn about what is happening to us. These people want amnesty because that is what the Chamber of Commerce is paying them to implement. Our government and economy is imploding. Our military has been weakened. If voters do not wake up now, it will be over. Period. The "RINO" v "Conservative" meme plays into the faux narrative promoted by Rove, Faux News and the rest of the Republican establishment that want to shut us up. The issue is that "We The People" need to reassert our rightful place in the governance of this country. That means that Rove and his gang of thieves need to be kicked out of Washington in every single election for the next decade and beyond at every level of government. We need to elect people who understand, first and foremost, the Constitution of the United States and the limited role of the Federal government. It is not big government's job to rob us of the fruits of our labor, tell us how to eat, think, read, speak, over regulate us to death and otherwise take over every other aspect of our very existence from birth to death, much less flood our country with illegal aliens who have no interest in becoming Americans, learning to speak the English language and becoming contributing citizens of this country. I am sick to death of the willful ignorance of the media, including Faux News, the radical left that have take control of this great country, but most of all, the people who vote time after the time for the likes of John McCain, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Bushies, and the rest of the FDR Republicans who only proclaim to be "conservative" when elections roll around. It is utterly disgusting. End of Rant.
31 weeks ago
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It's long past accountability. If they won't take action against Obamacare and a 17 trillion dollar debt, they won't take action against anything.

They are the OINO party. Opposition in Name Only.

Purging is too good for them.
31 weeks ago
31 weeks ago Link To Comment
Read me carefully:

We need accountability, purge and inquisition against the LEFT.

This is my proposal:
* BHO declared guilty of treason and ALL of his enables including the f*ing press, and the DEMS.
* FINE THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE
* Execute the heads for treason (Clinton, Obama)
* Shutdown the IRS and start a new from scrap
* Shut down the EPA, FED, and other stupid tyrannical agencies.

Before any dumb starts me with the democracy and rule of law here, let me say that ALL these actions are the RESTITUTION of the Rule of Law and the State of Right. Abolish stupid ammendments (Senators are not meant to be elected by popular votes), and institute the SEPARATION of ECONOMY and the STATE, for the same reasons as Church and State.

Enough is enough.
31 weeks ago
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No - the party must purge to stay alive. But I don't care what it does any more because it sure doesn't represent my interests.
31 weeks ago
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Um, you take the accountability. You're not going to get it. We have been down that road before.

I'm holding out for a purge.

Death to the Republican Party.
Long live the Tea Party.
31 weeks ago
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