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Ask Dr. Helen: Workplace Discrimination Against Men

August 20, 2008 - 12:00 am - by Helen Smith
Jim
2008-08-21 08:55:56

“But now that one case is gleefully seized on by misogynist men and women as negating all the other cases of genuine rape going unpunished. ”

One case? That is flat dishonest. False rape accusations are a dime a dozen. Just a year before the Duke case there was another high profile case in which a white women sought Kobe Bryant out in his hotel room at 10:00 at night, they ahd sex, and afterwards she claimed she was raped. the case dragged on for months when by rights the lying little white***** should have been kicked to the curb. You are probably going to claim ignorance of this incident too. You can just as well claim ignorance of the fact that false rape accusations and lynchings resulting form them were a major form of racist terrorism in the South. As unaware as you are of this background, it is a wonder that you presume to comment on the Duke Lacrosse case at all, even to say that it was “one case”.

As for your demand for detailed facts, they are in fact superfluous after one fact has been established – that there was one set of tasks for one group and one for the other determined by something other than job criteria or pay. If the groups had been identified by race, there would be no question whatsoever that this was discrimination, at least under US law, which in this case its the law that matters.

“False accusation of rape is not in the same league of crimes as rape itself. And if the penalty were as great, no woman would ever report a rape.”

False accusations are accusations in which the accuser knowingly makes a false statement. It does not cover statements made in good faith that turn out not to be true. But a false statement that results in false imprisonment of up to several decades is a crime at least on par with rape, at least to anyone with a moral conscience. what objection can you have to trying to discourage false accusations. as for discouraging any and all rape accusers………facts please. Facts.

But this one is truly abysmally ignorant:

“As far as discrimination in the worplace for men? I cannot say for sure as I’ve certainly never been aware of it. While discrimination is not fair at all perhaps it’s the men’s turn to have a little taste of that. Who knows.”

“Men” have had plenty of experience with discrimination, White Girl.

“So the Duke Lacrosse case never even came to trial? ”

Oh, it was tied alright, in the press all across the country. It was tired in a fashion at the university, where 88 bigots on the faculty signed a denunciation that presumed guilt. But then too, lots of rape accusations never went to trial before the mob with a rope showed up at a man’s house.

“On second thoughts, contine to feel smug and superior, because the US press is far less self-critical than ours.”

Lying is presenting something as a fact when you know that you do not know for sure that it is fact. So you are saying that MSNBC and Fox are not currently engaged in a protracted bitch fight? You are saying that right wing media in this country have not been waging war to get NPR defunded for years? You are saying that Andrew Sullivan and others at the Atlantic magazine do not regularly expose errors in New York Times reporting and castigate it for that? Incredible. You really are just making this up as you go a long, aren’t you? So much for your standard of “facts”.

But why bother with someone who equates the dress of a part of the population in an out-of-the-way little city with a pronouncemnt by the senior judge in the country?