A Comment About

Russia’s Pathetic Defenders

August 16, 2008 - 12:37 am - by Kim Zigfeld
Neo-neocon
2008-08-16 23:43:37

Monkeyfan> Pot…Meet kettle.

Hmm,I would never suggest that any American attitudes are genetically inbuilt. I do not think that there is any problem with American culture or American system either. I think that US has the best constitution a country can possibly have and best possible economic system in the world. Yes, it is worth to die for. But I would not sent any American soldier to die for freedom of those who crave for Islamic shariya law (like Iraq and Afghanistan) or to die for those who want to use Americans for their stupid regional ambitions (like Georgia). The life of Americans is precious, there are not so many of them and the rate of reproduction (2.2) is only sufficient to maintain the current level of population.

Rom W>Where’s the evidence that Russian weapons are any good?

Lately they did not have much stimulus to work on their weapon, but now they will, unfortunately. Secondly, there is difference between what they sell and what they have themselves and how they use it.

Monkeyfan>I don’t think you realize that most of us here know the differences between the corruption of the Georgian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic) and post-Shevardnadze [Rose Revolution] Georgia.

And what is that difference? Is that suppressing demonstrations by tear gas? What else? A buddy of Saakashvilli came to PBS to defend him and he said as aq side comment that Saakashvilli copied much from Putin to rebuilt Georguia. And when you see him speaking he is much more like a fascist comparing to Putin.

OK, let us make it a rational debate. I have said that Saakashvilli sucks. Say yes or no. Are you going to defend his personal qualities only because he says that he is friend of US?

You talk about South Ossetia atrocities, but what do you really know about the history of this war and what do you know why there are two Ossetia (North and South)? Stalin divided them artificially and give it to Russia and Georgia which were republics. Ossetia has the same reason to dislike Georgian rule as Baltic countries had reason to dislike Russian rule. Russia let those republics go, Georgia cares about its dominion over Ossetia. So, who is a fascist? Or will your argue against this account of Russian history?

Monkeyfan> Nice try at the placatory switcheroo though. We more “human” capitalists weren’t “striked” nearly as bad by the “cruel savages”.

Hmm. I was just commenting on the question as of why and where Communism strikes and where it does not. I did not argue in defense or against of anything. All what I tried is to make you to think. If it was a wrong try, then this is might be too abstract subject for you. I regreat.

Monkeyfan> So are you suggesting that we should just roll over whenever Ivan rattles his nuclear sabers and decides he wants to put the boot to our friend?

Much of what I was trying to suggest have been superseded by far more comprehensive comments in:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28053

The point is that when you start rattling your saber, you can not do it for too long and US now have been doing it long enough. Now, when US have much more discernable enemies like Iran, (who is going to lunch first satellite by next week) it would be nice for US to have a bit more fire power and the leverage with allies. But unfortunately, it was all wasted to remove non existing nukes from Iraq. Now, you also spy Russia as an enemy, even though Russia does not want to destroy US as some other really want to do. Why to waste time on quarrels with Russia at the time when there are far more real enemies? Learn from Hitle failures during WW2 :-) .

Please try to understand me correctly. I do not argue against cold war with Russia. If you want it, you will get it eventually. I think cold war was a cool time when both countries had many incentives to do research and to invent new weapons and it was good for both countries. Now it all stalled. At the moment I am just suggesting that it may not be the right time: What do you know about Islam? Have you ever read Quran and literature on Jihad? Do you pay any attention to what Iran does?