Phoenix48
2010-10-05 22:04:07

I will give Professor Rotunda an A for effort with his earnest post – but once the full review is in – his overall grade quickly deflates to a very pedestrian C. About average for any academic wadding into the muddy waters of immigration.

As many fellow posters have noted there is one particularly dismissive assertion that most here object to, as do I. Why would stepping up deporations move us in any way toward a despotic nation? Because the communist vietamese did it in the late seventies? (actually people fled to avoid being executed more than offically being deported in a systematic way) Or because Castro emulated it in a similar way in the eighties (without nearly as much blood shed)?

Obama and his 1st mate Napolitano – a dope of a pol chosen particularly because of her media standing as a so called experienced border state Gov perceived as a moderate on immigration – have both fended off accusations of not doing enough to secure the border by tossing back the factual claim that deporations of CRIMINAL aliens – that is those who have robbed, raped, killed or otherwise ventured off into gangland territory – have been deported at twice the numbers under Bush – both in ’09 and now in ’10.

{although they never mention that trying them here and imprisoning them here is a lot more expensive – as most western states – particularly California – can attest. Ask them what happens to them in mexico or which ever country takes them back. Most often they are not extridited to be tried – but deported to freedom…all the more disgusting}

What they have also done is simultaneously drop the deporation of those who haven’t ventured off into criminal activity other than coming here to work – INCLUDING IDENTITY THEFT.

JD Hayworth said it best in his ill-fated run against McShamnesty; They see the border and its issues as a political problem to be managed…[I see] it as a national security issue to be solved…

I’ve seen this routine under Janet Napolitano first hand during her governorship – promoting illegal immigration as an ultimately good thing – and couching this support in terms of civil and human rights; it’s been a disaster in Arizona. It has directly undermined what she claimed was her first and most important goal when governor – to diversify AZ’s economy and make AZ a desired destination for the best jobs/corporations.

That is a description of TEXAS today. Under any meaningful catagory outlinging the priorities to make us a great place to do business – where once we were #2 or at worst #5 IN EVERY IMPORTANT WAY – she inherited a state with successive conservative Republican Gov’s and Legislatures that had steadly lifted the standard of living, wages, everything – and reversed it to it’s lowest standing twenty years before she eeked into office by a few thousand votes.

What she did do was promote a tripling of latino immigration – most of it illegal. And starting almost as soon as she came to office in ’02 we had popular referrendums pushing back what her policies were encouraging – on everything from employer sanctions to Voter ID to Bail for those arrested (for ‘serious crimes’ or just loitering while BEING HERE) to the legality of banks offering mortgages, checking accounts, auto loans and credit cards.

She tried to sell her ‘vision’ much the same way Obama has – it’s about ‘growth’ & ‘diversity’, about the promise of America, about all these really important things that will ensure America continues being a great ecomomic world power.

And it was all a load of bunk. It’s opportunistic politcs pure and simple.

So it was in Phoenix when Napolitano was in charge it now is in Washington where she is shilling for Obama. It is not about what is best for America. It is about what is best for THEM AS DEMOCRATS. And what is best for them as Democrats is following the California model as it has unfolded since 1992.

To take what was once a great conservative stronghold cultivated under the leadership of Goldwater and transform it into a Democratic party stronghold – where [they believe] one party Dem rule will proceed for the next generation – as it has in California.

You don’t do that buy enforcing existing immigration law. You do it by turning the existing law on it’s head through non-enforcement. While it is particularly infuriating for conservatives it is not particularly complex.

So it is really insulting to here the good Professor couple deporation as a unworkable and unreasonable effort and then go so far as to claim it as despotism.

Life in Arizona under Napolitano was as close to despotism as I hope this country ever gets. She played out her routine along the former Cali Jimmy Carter Democrate GRAY DAVIS’ playbook. Build government (she did it at 10% a year) and then use those ‘jobs created’ as a base to do more of the same. Even during the best years of the early post 9/11 economy the two most reliable growth industries was gov jobs and health care – health care being HER BIGGEST GOV GROWTH. #3? – Public Universities.

Sound familar?

At least with Gov Jan Brewer I have an executive who clearly recognizes the absurdity of Rotunda’s claim. Just as it was once absurd of Napolitano to insist that securing the border was impossible because ‘build a twenty foot wall and they will use a 22-ft ladder’.

Secondly, interjecting the validitiy of ’2004 International Court of Justice’ complication is a smoke screen of bull as well. I didn’t like it when the Mexican President started spouting off about not approving of SB1070 and all that, and I resented it even more when democrats at that congressional gathering applauded the prick, but there is a big difference between this kind of symbolic give and take in public and legal issues of soverignty.

Congress invited the dolt and he made his statement.

Again I return to the example of the boat people who came during Carters term. WE OWED MANY SOMETHING. They were being slaughtered after we failed to win in Vietnam – it was a mess we created.

Then Castro exploited the same problems this immigration wave presented later – dumping everyone from political undesirables to savage criminals to the serverly disabled.

The political will – a guilty pleasure too many Republicans are likewise distracted by but a cannard to which the Democrats are virtually OBSESSED – is about gaining voters – tens of millions in one dramatic swoop.

The ‘complexity’ arguments have been pounded into the ground for years now. NO SIR IT IS NOT COMPLEX. It is really simple you stupid silly mongoose of a intellectual boob.

It is about we the people electing officials who enact our desires on this. And the public from Phoenix to Alaska to Maine and all parts inbewteen have been very clear – in the support of us with SB1070 and various similar popular referrendums passed and struck down in court or otherwise.

If you think it’s complicated then don’t get into politics because ain’t got a future there – you dig? There isn’t a debate except among goofs in the media. The debate ended years ago. Don’t come illegally BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME – you plain and simple are not wanted. We the people want to invite who we want to invite (be it HB1 or some such program)and who we want invited get invited ON OUR TERMS….as in employers pay the freight.

No it’s not complicated. It can be done…and it WILL BE. Just listen to that Tea Kettle blowin….

The Obama administrations assault on Arizona