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Remember Those Iraqi Benchmarks? Well, Guess What…

June 17, 2008 - 8:30 am - by Abe Greenwald
Roque Nuevo
2008-06-19 11:53:35

Krispos42,

Well, I warned you that if you made me explain these things you’d end up looking more stupid than you do already. But, you went ahead anyway, so it’s not my fault.

No theocratic Christian states out there? Well, so much for your original comparison. Right? The only theocratic states out there are Muslim, not Christian. It’s even debatable whether there ever was such a thing as a theocratic Christian state (after the Eastern Roman Empire, that is).

“Public prayer in school, 10 Commandments everyplace, the constant declaration that we are a “Christian Nation”, Intelligent Design, White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, the constant, bi-annual sucking-up to the Religious Right, anti-abortion and anti-gay laws, and the constant expressed desire to base American secular law on the Bible” does not add up to “national unity based on religion”. That’s because we have the First Amendment. Idiot.

The ideas you call “nationalism” would fit just about every nation on earth. Therefore it’s meaningless for analysis. In the context of a discussion of fascism, “nationalism” must mean something more than that. Something like glorifying the nation above the individual. In this sense, nobody in the US is nationalist.

“Militarism”, again when discussing fascism, doesn’t mean having a strong military or even having the strongest military. It means glorifying the military ethic and it means militarizing society as a whole. For example the “Hitler Youth”, “the Joy in Work” movements in Nazi Germany, which effectively organized society into military-like groups subject to control from above. Give me some examples of Bush doing anything even analogous to this. You can’t? Well, like I said, you’re looking pretty stupid right now.

“Autocracy” is a synonym for “dictatorship”. Rule of one, according to the word’s Greek roots. Just how does Bush fit this definition? Just to begin with, if he were an autocrat, he wouldn’t be leaving office next year in accordance with the Constitution. It does not mean trying to expand executive authority. All (and I mean all) presidents have done this, beginning of course with Washington, who expanded it the most with respect to the Constitution. The tendency of the executive to do this is recognized and even encouraged by the doctrine of separation of powers, which is one of the keystones of the Constitution. If Bush has done this effectively, then future presidents will thank him for it, just as they thank Washington and others today.

“Corporatism” does not mean “rule by great business enterprises” as you think. It means that society is divided into groups according to some standard (workers, businessmen, military, middle class) and these groups have representation at the national level, while individuals do not. See “militarism”. This is anathema to Bush and to Conservative ideology in general. It just doesn’t apply to today’s America. It applies, for example, to today’s Venezuela.

“Tolitariansim”, is a word invented by Mussolini to express the will to control society down to the individual’s own thought by the state. This has never happened in human history. It’s only an ideal. But it’s obviously related to state control over education, religion, the press and so forth. It’s related to a police state, which will enforce thought crime with prison and worse. If you think you live under a totalitarian regime in America under Bush, you are seriously deluded. Where are the concentration camps? Where have people been rousted at three am and disappeared? Where are the songs and poems dedicated to the Great Leader? Come on! Gimme a break! You can’t be that stupid!

“The unitary executive” is not synonymous with autocracy, as any high school student should know (or used to know, anyway. Were you home schooled by deranged socialists, or what?) The US has a unitary executive because it’s in the Constitution. I can’t see anything even remotely similar to fascism in this.

Like I said, leave it alone now. You’re just digging your stupid hole deeper all the time. Just bug out and maybe read a bit and get some education. Then you can come back with something that makes sense.