“Conservatives — who claim to be advocates of “limited government” and “freedom” — betray both with their advocacy of government-imposed quotas on immigration. ”
First Conservatives are centrists… they “advocate” whatever the wind deems at the time to be fun…. they neither believe in freedom or limited government.
Ppl who truly believe in limited government and freedom are rightwing/libertarian. I like many wouldn’t mind have more guest workers and more immigration if the current system was working correctly… neither is because of the criminal abuse in both.
Our US Constitution is to protect US Citizen and the rights of US citizens first…massive waves of immigration have been a tactics of conquest for 1000s of years…
“But government-imposed immigration quotas massively violate my rights and my freedom — by arbitrarily dictating who I may or may not allow on my land, who I may or may not hire in my business, who I may or may not rent an apartment to in my building and with whom I may or may not freely associate. Nothing on earth justifies the notion that government should have such power over me — and granting government the power to violate my freedom in this manner is the very antithesis of “limited government“. ”
This is a retarded argument. First immigration has nothing to do with your ability “to allow or not allow ppl on your land, who I may or may not hire in my business, who I may or may not rent an apartment to in my building and with whom I may or may not freely associate.”
Your argument amounts to “why can’t i have blacks as slaves” I claim them as my property so they belong to me…. and the government shouldn’t stop me because they belong to me.
The government doesn’t stop you from allowing ppl to come on your land or do business with you. It requires that ppl go through a process to enter the borders of the US. The process can be through a number of systems as everything from a tourist, guest worker, or citizen…. second unless you have land directly on the border your argument is completely moot… if you don’t like where you live MOVE.
“The government doesn’t own the territory of the United States — it has jurisdiction over that territory to enforce proper laws — but it has no right to make laws that violate my basic right to freely associate with whomever I choose, no matter where they come from.”
If you wish to associate with say osama bin laden you do that… or the KKK… or the NAACP go have fun with that. No one is stopping you from moving to where they are and having at it… if you want to be around mexicans move to mexico… no laws are preventing you from doing so expect the mexican laws.
“Government, whose job is to protect our rights, has only one legitimate role to play regarding immigration — and that role is screening those seeking to come here to insure they do not pose a threat to our rights, a threat in the form of an infectious disease or a threat in the form of an association with a criminal or terrorist gang. But it has no right to set arbitrary limits on the number of people who can come here.”
The problem is your completely confusing your own argument… most of the ppl who come here are from 3rd world nazi/commie/collectivist holes… they are the antipathy of a danger to our rights… they bring with the the ideology that is completely opposite of freedom and individualism. So they need to be carefully checked in every way…. open borders not only prevents those checks but openly invites the worse kinds of ppl to cross the border.
“The Declaration of Independence says that ALL men are created equal and that ALL are endowed with the same unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It does not say that only those born north of the Rio Grande have such rights. When conservatives argue against the universal nature of rights, they are implicitly agreeing with the leftist notion that rights are a gift from government — and that one must have government’s permission to enter the country before one can acquire these gifts.”
So you believe the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution should be enforced globally? So i assume you heavily support invading iraq, afgan and many other countries to include mexico because they treat they’re citizens like crap…
Its a noble view to be sure that the whole world should be taken over by the US and have them obey our laws.
“And this argument advanced by Ms. Barber is largely false:
The presence of millions of illegal aliens is a fiscal yoke around the American taxpayer’s neck and a social burden on his back,
Illegal aliens are not a “fiscal yoke” — they are paying much more in taxes than most Americans realize.
See here for details: http://reason.org/news/show/122411.html”
Normally reason does a good job however this piece is pitiful and does nothing to support your views.
First anyone with even basic knowledge of the topic knows that 90% of the costs of illegal aliens are completely hidden. What we know for sure is that illegals cost the US taxpayer currently huge sums of money and that when you multiply that by 9 you have 100s of billions of dollars…
Anyone who claims that illegal aliens don’t cost huge sums of money has done no research into the topic.
“Conservatives are on the wrong side of this issue. You cannot credibly advocate freedom for yourself while demanding that millions of other human beings forgo the same freedom and remain under the boot of their government.”
I completely agree… conservatives support open borders and thus are on the wrong side of the issue. As for freeing ppl from oppression I also completely agree… the US should take over the world 1 country at a time… however its unrealistic to believe we can save 5 billion ppl from oppression in a few hours… it will take centuries of warfare to take over the planet and free the world from the oppression that collectivism…
