Bubblefoot
2010-05-22 16:42:42

johnt:

set aside your wrath my friend, take a deep breath, stop using labels (what should I call you if I’m an intellectual? An excitable unwitting easily duped fellow who let’s his commendable loyalty to the US be transferred onto a pice of real estate where the people don’t like us, won’t help us, won’t defend themselves and is of no real use to us? The good, diligent horse in Animal Farm that redoubled his efforts for the bad animals?).

Hear me out here, while I put on my spectacles, put down my “Complete Works of Adlai Stevenson,” my “War Is Bad for People And other living things,” pamphlet, my book “The compleat Intellectual’s Guide to utopia: or, if We Only Become Like The French, and let professors run the world,” and explain:

First, “my line” is an early American view that we ought to have an interest in a war before we pour money and lives into it; and that interest had better be tangible before we over extend ourselves on behalf of people who won’t fight for themselves.

Our money and patience are not infinite: people acting as if they are do not understand money, credit, the right of US taxpayers to live their own lives, and the enormous strain wars take on any country.

You know this.

If we’re going to blow billions on a foreign war, or bluster ourselves inot a tense situation with China in their nexk of the woods, some one ought to be able to come up with a good reason why.

We didn’t become wealthy fighting wars: we did it by selling stuff to everybody else and not becoming involved in ruinous wars like europe did with monotonous and bankrupting regularity. Want to see a country that fought all over the world and tired itself out? Britain.

Second, please tell me what our interest in in SoKo where they don’t like us and want us to do their fighting? To have a base to spy on China? Guess what? We can do that from anywhere else. Right now SoKo is an impediment to dealing with NoKo; every time we want to take Dear Leader’s glasses and smash them, we have to worry about the SoKo’s, a NoKo invasion, and a chinese reaction, and SoKo’s militantly anti-US population. We’d be better off without their deadwright to support.

Please don’t tell me “SoKo a a free country and we therefore owe them money we are going to borrow from China to defend people who won’t defend themselves or help us.” Are you serious? France is free too, and I am not lifting a finger for them.

Why does a mom in Iowa owe her son and a tax payment to the SoKo’s who won’t do squat for us? Or for themslevs?

Third, Chiang is -pardon the expression- a red herring. He was corrupt, incompetent, lazy and screwed up his army so badly and his people that he was hosed out of there by his own people: your suggestion that the US could have altered the result is a bit misguided: not unless we poured more money and troops into china and did it all for them. Much as I would have liked for Mao to lose, Chaiang was no George Washington and he took advantage if US aid to enrich himself and his friends: (ask any old wealthy family in Taiwan where they got their money. Hint: not from working long hours and building up a business).

My interest in in what is good for the US and those allies that will stand up for themselves. I would agree that we ought to spend whatever it takes for the Brits, germans, Poles, Japan and some others: but SoKo?

Its time to realize that with China up, we don’t have the sway in the area we sued to ahve and I am not going to risk endless money and lives for Soko. We’re trying to be buds with China and SoKo is ahrdly worht gumming that up. Again, they aren’t the brits (for whom I would gum it up).

My friend, I believe you are being sucked into assuming–owning–a crisis that the SoKo’s want someone else to fight for them. Less than 5 years ago they elected a govt that sent food to NoKo; all was going to be peace and buying the world a coke between them; they wanted the US to butt out too. We were mean; they were enlightened; we were old; they were new. Till now.

Now, with a boat sunk, they want US to do somehting about it?” Why don’t they?

As soon as we put ourselves at risk there, we’ll be stuck; we won’t be able to back out because we’ll have put ourselves into a spat and our credibility will be at stake in a big way. The Soko’s? They’ll go back to their efforts to raid our markets and won’t send a single combat soldier anywhere to help us. They’ll flee to the rear of the fight in their own country. Just like Vietnam.

A strike on NoKo to take out his nukes? I’m all for it. But blustering in to the area to do SoKo’s job? Forget it.

I’ll be looking for your answer. Got to run to the faculty lounge.