Lazar
2010-03-11 17:10:14

Keep dancing, Charlie. The question you posed was;

Before you go too far with this, state a statistical definition of independence and show why these data sets, which correlate highly, are independent under that definition.

… an impossible proposition, since statistical independence requires zero correlation or covariance. Your implication is that two studies which are…

a) independent
b) produce accurate estimates of the same variable (global mean temperature)

…must produce estimates which are statistically independent (uncorrelated).

Which is patent bs. Impossible. You’re conflating statistical independence with a scientific goal of independence, meaning that studies are conducted by different groups using different methodology and/or underlying assumptions and/or input data — and hopefully confirm the same results (correlated, not statistically independent). That is what is normally meant by scientifically literate people when they say that studies are independent.

studies on independent data sets

I’ve already explained to you that the input data to various temperature products are not independent, and have never been claimed to be otherwise. Seriously, keep dancing, it’s funny. Now, are you going to explain why you omitted those embarrassing Hansen quotes, and who the other climate scientists are other than Reto Ruedy, and why studies of radiative transfer, ocean heat content, paleoclimate, boreholes, sea level, satellite brightness temperatures, glaciers, stratospheric cooling, ocean and atmospheric circulation, humidity and precipitation, are all unrelated to AGW?