RichB213 wrote:
Currently Carbon Dioxide makes up about 385 Parts per Million of our atmosphere. I have read that about 15% to 30% of this is caused by man. The Alarmists projectons are based on a doubleing of the Carbon Dioxide. That means in the simplest terms not taking into account any latency, because if we do it actually takes more Carbon Dioxide to get to this figure, that we need to be burning at least 6 to 10 times more hydrocarbons than at present to reach these figures. This is an assumption made by the models.
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Rich, Can you say more about this. What do you take as the starting point to figure the doubling? Also, I assume that there is enough carbon out there for us to find and burn to double in the atmosphere, since the CO2 rate has been that high at times in the past, right?
To #63 Michael Lonie Have you taken the time to look at the the literature and data that has been accumulated. I don’t believe the hockey stick per se, either, but there is a thread on Real Climate devoted to why the hockey stick does not matter. Basically, if we ave our current CO2 ON TOP of MWP warming, we’re screwed.
Once, I had the mind-set that if I could find a few flaws in the AGW scenario, or the people pushing it, then I could just dismiss the whole thing, and this is certainly what anyone who is philosophically opposed to taxes, government intervention of foreign aid to emerging nations to save their rain forests etc does. You can tell that more than half the comments here are purely agenda-driven. Would we agree that we need to show SOME concern about the amount of CO2 that humans are pumping into the atmosphere…or not? Our individual mileage may vary.
We know that almost all the glaciers in the northern hemisphere are in retreat and are likely to disappear soon. We may, or may not be able to do anything about that. I am not prepared to support cap and trade tomorrow, but I am also not prepared to dismiss the whole thing as a complete scam….unless or until the glaciers start coming back. Subsidies will be necessary, I’m sure to get going on nuclear; start-up costs will be huge, so we will be paying one way or another.
Hansen says that 2010 could be the year for record warmth, since there is an El Nino, but it seems likely to this schlep that the sunspots would have to return for that to happen.
Realistically, it will take such a year to offset the climategate brouha.
