Amen…Amen…Amen… And yet this “religion of Peace” yipyap is still perpetrated in the mainstream as if it’s common sense (for G*d sake Salam means Peace, Islam means SUBMISSION).
TYNAN SAID:
“If you actually read the Bible, there are many very warlike and cruel instructions which modern Christian civilization is content to ignore, while still being Christian.”
REPLY:
Now, now, do not compare apples and oranges – do not compare a few passages with a philosophy whose cental tenant is intolerance & superiority over the “infidel”. Islam divides the world into the ABODE OF ISLAM and the ABODE OF WAR. Essentially, those in the ABODE OF WAR are less than human and must be conquered, to be brought into the fold of Islam. Once conquered it does not get much better. Those who are not Muslims are referred to as Dhimmi, they are second-class citizens in that they must pay a special tax (The Jizya, which is HIGHER than the Zakat, which Muslims pay) and do not have many rights afforded to Muslims. THE CLINCHER is that THE KORAN SPELLS OUT THE REASON FOR THIS DHIMMIFICATION, THIS PERSECUTION – It is so that the non-Muslim will “feel subdued” (Sura 9).
The difference between the various prophets is that Muhammed was a WARLORD. He was also an openly dishonest warlord, having gone back on his word with the Jews at Khybar (the blueprint for every Islamic Hudna since, see Hamas, Hezbollah, PLO and their ‘ceasefire’ record).
TYNAN SAID:
The problem with the Islamic world isn’t that it’s Islamic per se, it’s the dictators who are using Islam as a tool to externalize blame for their people’s crappy lives away from themselves.
MY REPLY:
I will agree that the dictators are the Arabs/Persians and Muslim world’s greatest enemies. I will also agree that they use scapegoating to externalize blame for the misery of their people. However, that blame is put upon Israel and the West.
That has little to do with the Pan-Islamic threat though. Alas, misery does not breed opression. That myth is absolutely devoid of factual observation. The most oppressed, massacred, persecuted people in history never blew themselves up! The Jews have not accepted terrorism and targetting of civilians as a mainstream norm. The blacks (of America and Africa) are not bombing coffee shops. The Kurds do not target civilians as their main modus operandi. Sub Suharan Africa is amongst the most miserable places on Earth yet even Al Qaeda has trouble recruiting there.
The miseducation and brainwashing from birth has something to do with it but the violent history and spirit of Islam is the greatest factor.
TYNAN SAID:
Islam, as written in the Koran, is only marginally more violent than Christianity.
MY REPLY:
THAT IS PATENTLY ABSURD! I’m sorry, I am simply floored by that comment. You need to open up your New Testament and your Koran and read them. There is no parallel or similarity in the level of violence and calls for death and destruction within the Koran.
There are similarities between the stories in the OLD TESTAMENT and Koran, but here to, the Koran distinguishes itself in its calls for shaming, persecuting and killing.
Here is a TINY, MINISCULE SAMPLING (taken from my last blog post)
SURA 9:5: …slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.
SURA 5:33 The just retribution for those who fight GOD and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter.
SURA 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein. (my note: Peoples of the Fire – abide therein, aka put them in fire, burn them!)
SURA 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
SURA 2:194: And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is with those who ward off (evil).
SURA 2:254: …The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers
SURA 4:89: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them
SURA 4:91: If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.
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