Ami, I assume English is not your native tongue, but let me let you in on a little secret. Ben Gurion referred to the Palestinian Arabs as the “Red Indians” of Palestine, making the analogy with the US’s treatment of native Americans so the name calling etc is common practice for both sides. You’d better be able to prove that legitimately accepted Muslim texts refer to Jews as Monkeys and such, and I’m not interested in some far out nonsense either, I’m talking about genuine scholarly work. Here in the US some of the White Racist groups have some pretty unkind things to say about Jews too (along with Blacks and Catholics and anyone else they don’t happen to care at the moment) but they aren’t taken as serious scholarly work.
Here is your text! So don’t say that you didn’t say what you did!
“The Romans used interpretation of Christian texts to justify various State and Church directed programs meant to undermine their native Jewish population.” You stated in the context of what happened in 70 AD, go look yourself!
And on one point you are correct, Jews have no lock on the most suffering of any peoples which may come as a suprise to you. Want proof, try looking to the south of Israel into what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo and see the pygmies! You think you’ve had it hard! Check out the number of rape cases alone that occured in the North Kivu valley around the cities of Goma and Bunia that were treated at NGO hospitals in January of this year alone. This doesn’t speak to those that didn’t get to treatment.
On my point about there having been Jewish Financial Viziers in the Ottoman Turkish Empire, you need to keep it in context. It was mentioned as a rebuttal to your point that the Turks had some kind of special hatred and/or singled out Jews for any particular mistreatment. They had a habit of mistreating anyone that didn’t behave within what they felt was their Empire’s boundaries, including their own people. Look at the fratricide that was practiced by the Sultans to see this.
I won’t debate or discuss the Armenian situation (what relevance does it have in this discussion? Are you talking in circles or just trying to play on people’s emotions here?) as I don’t know enough about it but as with the politics in the Middle East in general, far too much emotion comes into play, which basically means to me that it will never get fixed and that as a taxpayer to the US government, I’m a bit tired of paying taxes to things that don’t ever get fixed, including the problems between the Palestininans and Israelis. Let’s face it, the Israelis will never accept current Palestinian demands and the Palestinians will never accept Israeli demands, at least not in this century! Please don’t bring up the Oslo Accords as this was merely a “deal” between Arafat and Perez then Netanyahu, it wasn’t a legitimate thing at all as all Arafat did was give into Israeli demands to secure his own position in power.
Have fun beatin’ each others brains out! I’ve watched it fairly up close and personal to the point when I was a student in Jerusalem on June 6th 1967 when the city was still Jordanian! Cool tank fight though and my hat is off to the Israeli paratroops at the wailing wall those guys did a great job!
Thank you for your response to my question, it is too bad you can’t see that the Hmong stay Hmong as an example, so the Jews staying Jewish doesn’t strike me as a valid reason. As far as supplanting Jews, this was the basic question to begin with, here in the US there are HUGE Christian sects that fully support Jews and Israel. A further note about this Ami, is that my tax money also goes to support things like the Herschorn Museum in Wash.D.C so your argument is not all that strong in some respects.
Darn it, I was really hoping that after the Berlin wall fell (which I didn’t expect to see in my lifetime) that some sort of peace would happen in the Fertile Crescent, guess that won’t be the case.
