@182. goy:
Over 80% of America would disagree with you, since they’re satisfied with their health care and their insurance plans.
That’s only true if you don’t count folks who lack insurance. Fuzzy math. More than 75% of Americans support a public option.
But go ahead and soil yourself…
Coprophilic much?
Public health is a public good.
A rare point of accord.
Individual health is a personal decision
Hardly. Childhood leukemia is not a choice. There is more to health care than the market can address.
- The current system is not desirable, …
Agreed. Break the insurance companies’ proxy monopoly that controls the price, all transactions and access to most health care.
I call this the ‘public option’.
Government-controlled, socialized medicine will never do those things without more onerous legislation. Neither will rationing.
American exceptionalism? It works everywhere it has been tried. Why not here?
- For-profit insurance is a poor substitute for true health care.
I completely agree, and have been telling people this for years.
Consumers should be paying for health care directly.
That solves nothing. Consumers who can’t afford insurance can’t afford care at retail.
Insurance is a tool for mitigating risk. The only rational way to use insurance in the context of health care is to insure against catastrophic illness or injury with a low-premium/high-deductible policy.
Single payer also works well, and costs less.
- Critical care does not equal health care.
Maybe in your Bizarro World. In the real world, however, critical care is the very most important kind of health care – the kind that saves people’s lives.
Most Americans die from non critical causes. It is the same world you live in, where most bankruptcies are due to medical bills, and the poor cannot obtain basic care.
Routine health care, on the other hand, is a personal responsibility – just like other routine costs of living like transportation, food, water, clothing, housing, etc.
All of us have roughly predictable and equal needs for the commodities you list. Health care aside, of course. That’s why pooling resources makes sense.
Your hyperbole and fantasies about 40M people aren’t believable, much less persuasive.
I guess accuracy is not a factor in your calculus. 40M is a conservative estimate, whether you accept it or not. There is not any dispute.
- If the market did not face government regulation, the situation would be even worse.
That’s your opinion.
Supported by the evidence of all of human history.
- Medicare will never be bankrupt. Deficit spending is not bankruptcy.
There is no practical difference between endless, increasing deficit spending and functional bankruptcy.
Health care reform is clearly the only solution. But there is a difference.
Eventually, the 90-100M Americans who are paying income tax on behalf of the entire U.S. population will simply get tired of having their wealth confiscated.
Confiscated? That’s a laugh.
No sane person would “like” Medicare.
Except one who understands that it’s better than nothing.
When you get an Amendment passed that gives Congress the authority to legislate individual health care for every citizen in the U.S., let’s talk.
Let me know how your constitutional challenge to Medicare turns out…
- It is time to make this right.
Stop looking to the government to solve all your problems, like a six-year-old looking for the protection of Mommy.
We the People are the government, in case you forgot. Coming together to address our collective needs is the basic purpose of our government.
Stop letting other people hand you your opinions. Grow up.
Take your own advice, then we can talk.
Peace.
DS
