A Comment About

What the Pundits Are Missing About ObamaCare

August 30, 2009 - 2:05 am - by Jennifer Rubin
Cichawoda
2009-08-30 10:58:43

54. ETAB:
“cichawoda – could you provide some factual evidence for your conclusion that this site contains ‘rabid hatred and lies’? Could you explain why your define resistance to Obama’s Bill as ‘rabid’?”

“Obama is a Mohammedan LYING document HIDING BOGUS POTUS”
“Why are there avowed communists advising this Mugabe style president”
“unlike the Chicago Machine gangsters Obama has surrounded himself with in the White House”
“The people running this administration are children”
“What the Democrats are proposing is a thoroughly dishonest sham.”
“Running the government like a second rate Communist Republic in South America”

This is just from this discussion and each one from a different post. I love a good argument when it is based in mutual respect, substantiated facts and civility – you can’t have a Democracy with out that.

“After all, your paragraph about medical errors has nothing to do with the insurance companies.” – that was aimed at one of the posts saying that tort reform would solve all the healthcare problems.

“bloated bureaucracy that develops to ‘maintain’ this system”
Are the bureaucracies of Medicare and the VA healthcare system bloated compared to the administrative costs of the for profit insurers (underwriting and dividends included)?
“In 1999, health administration costs totaled at least $294.3 billion in the United States, or $1,059 per capita, as compared with $307 per capita in Canada.” – New England Journal of Medicine

“And remember, this public system, which denies you any choice of doctor, treatment, and often denies you care, is extremely costly.”
Well I don’t know where you get your information from but, in the last 40 years, I have spent over 15 years living in several European countries including 5 years in Scotland and England. All I can say, because I need to eat my breakfast now, is that you are either ignorant or lying. Of all my friends that are living in Europe and Canada I don’t know of one that would want to swap systems with us.