A Comment About

The GOP’s Hispanic Problem

August 24, 2009 - 12:18 am - by Ruben Navarrette Jr.
Brendan Kelly
2009-08-27 14:54:26

Maybe you could explain (or not) why all this time Mexico has failed to build a viable economy, which failure inclines its citizens to look for work across the border ?

Sure I can. Since the end of the Mexican Revolution (1920) until 2000 ONE Left wing political party, the PRI held power in Mexico. Think of what would happen to the US if for 80 uninterrupted years the Obama/Pelosi ran the country. That is pretty much what happened in Mexico. Actually though these guys were worse, it is the Mexican Oil Expropriation of 1938 that Ayn Rand used as a basis for the seizure of the San Sebastián Mines in Atlas Shrugged.

Decades of corrupt left wing government (look at Juarez’s anti-clericalism) followed by decades of corrupt and opressive right wing government, followed by a long and very very bloody civil war (which included the Pershing expidition that failed to catch Pancho Villa) followed by 80 years of corrupt single party left wing government. That’s pretty much why their economy is tanked and stays tankes.

Sorry but it’s not that Hispanics are “undermunchen” or anything. They simply had a really cr@ppy outcome to their last revolution, that’s all.

“Your claim that payouts to illegals in CA (education, medical etc.) hasn’t played a role in tanking the CA economy is patently false.”

No, I’m simply being logical and non-histerical. Take a look at what SNOPES says about just one example. http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp

Look, despite the ridiculious claims FAIR makes, there simply is not any good data on this. It’s all data and assumptions, and when you can make up your own assumptions, you can get any result you want. http://www.fortfreedom.org/b19.htm

What IS known is this. California is $40,000,000,000 in the red, and it has a WHOLE lot more to do with the fact that the State Legislature is run by idiots than it does people named Jose who pick strawberries. Why can I say that? Texas. Texas, (rumor has it) has hosted the occasional illegal alien from time to time, so if you were right and illegals are a big problem, Texas should be falling apart too, right? Well according to the Texas Public Policy Foundation, between 1997 and 2006 Texas’ economy grew an average of 4.3% while California’s grew at a rate of 3.7%. But as of 2002 (to 2007), with tort reform in place, Texas’ annual economic growth jumped to 5%, while California’s remained essentially the same at 3.6%. In fact Texas created more jobs in 2008 than the rest of the states—combined.

California’s problem doesn’t have anything to do with Mexicans, it has everything to do with CALIFORNIANS.

“And you still can’t spell Tancredo.”

True, but then again I really don’t want to.

And could you please explain to me in a non-racist, non-xenophobic way what there is to disagree with in saying that “John McCain has declared illegals “children of God, too”"? Do you not believe that? Aren’t ALL Men created equal? Do you really think that Jesus prefers Gringos?

As for the immigration laws being stupid, have you ever READ them? Anyone who has will agree with me, they are stupid.

On issues of immigration Congress has carte blanche. They can do whatever they want, there are no Constitutional restrictions, there is no body of common law or legal precident they have to follow. This is why we got the Chinese Exclusion Act, amongst other things.

Because of that the immigration law is nothing more than what you can get 51 Senators to agree to. It changes with the political winds, and is often self-contradictory. There is no rhyme or reason to it, there are illogical exceptions carved out by special interests, conflicting policy goals that are included by different interest groups. There is no overall goal, nothing. It is all bureaucratic compromise stacked on political compromise. For a while there courts in one part of the USA were deporting aliens arrested for DWI because MADD was screaming at the local politicians that DWI was “a crime of violence”, but courts in other parts of the country did NOT consider DWI to be a “crime of violence”, so a DWI arrest would be treated under a different part of the immigration law, and you might not be deported for it. You could have two defendants commit the exact same crime in different states, and you wind up with one of them getting his Green Card yanked and he and his family are slammed on a plane back to Fubaristan, and the other one gets a fine and told not to do it again. Any way you slice it, that’s stupid.

I am stunned to say this, but I actually agree with EscapeVelocity about post 103 and 104. It would be a lot better for everyone concerned if Mexico had an honest and competent government. However (to quote Jayne Cobb) “If wishes were horses, we’d all be eating steak”.