“24. Moho:
Anyone who continues to recycle this lie, doesn’t deserve even a smidge of politeness. Such a person needs to be called out directly as one of two things–either an unprincipled, lying manipulator, or a total gullible idiot. I’ve read the article that this disgusting rumor is based on. Its an article about the ethical implications of rationing that occurs under our current system–for drugs during pandmeics, triage during disasters and organ replacement.
Anyone who continues to believe this lie at this point is either a gullible fool or a willing accomplice in slander.”
Aug 22, 2009 – 8:25 am
If the article in question is the one referenced here:
“Perhaps Zeke’s most infamous recommendation is in an essay (pages 12-14 at link) in the November-December 1996 Hastings Report. In it, while quite frequently using variations of the word “communitarian,” he wrote that “services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.” Charming.”
then it is moho who is lying. Read it for yourself. Indeed, Emmanuel’s communitarian theory is even more disturbing than the article here indicates–its argument includes the issue of decisions about guaranteed health care in a broader argument about the state’s right to ensure that it will continue to produce the right kinds of citizens into the future, with the right kind of citizens being those who support the kinds of “deliberative” and “communitarian” policies that produced those citizens. That is, once comunitarianism gets into power, it has the right and obligation to reproduce itself in power indefinitely. Implicit here would be the right to get rid of citizens who are insufficiently “deliberative” and “communitarian” and refuse to be properly “educated.”
