A Comment About

Getting It Wrong about Atheism and Science

April 29, 2008 - 12:00 am - by John Derbyshire
Javelin
2008-05-01 16:48:21

These are your various assumptions:

1) Typical people know nothing.
(No where did is say that? But the average persons’ level of Scientific education is sorry, which has nothing to do with Evolution. Since I aimed my barbs at people like you and Mr. Stein, are you the template for the inviolable common man! If you can’t understand a Scientist’s mission and choose to give up and blame the great ID for life that is your problem. Whether some Jose Schmoe believes in Evolution or understands Newtonian mechanics is quite irrelevant to the question. Jose is not attacking Evolutionary Biologists for doing their job.)
2) Your view is undebatable.
(That Scientists job is to find natural answers to phenomena of nature, yes I think that is the definition of Science and beyond debate. I explicitly said that the ID, or God argument works on other levels, but at this point, not Science. Where did I say that Science is everything?)
3) The tenets of Christianity teach killing.
(A contemptible lie that your petty mind conjured up to make you feel like some martyr. All I said is that God and various scriptures, not just Christian, have been used by various people to justify all sorts of atrocities, I believe I threw the Muslims, as well as some Israelites and pagans like the Shintos. Hypocrites abound every. My point, which seemed to be over your porcine intellect, is that talking about God and religion is hardly an anodyne to evil. One can find all sorts of apocalyptic brutality to justify killing gays or destroying a city in the Torah. thankfully, those people are fringe and few)
5) The errant beliefs of tyrants are not the fault of the tyrant.
(Sometimes yes, sometimes no. People raised amongst utterly brutal and amoral people are very apt to learn that at their parents’ knee, ala Genghis Khan or Tamerlane. Christianity moderated the Kaiser and his 2nd Reich enough so they were tame compared to the horrors that came later, even though they were quite ruthless by that day’s standard)
6) Bad guys are good guys without God.
(Huh, that is so silly.)
As far as insulting Berlinski, so what? Plenty of Academics are bloody fools and wrong, ala Chomsky or Heidegger or legions of Marxist fools who did sterling work in other fields. Why there are any Marxists today when Marx claimed his view was Science, that failed to predict anything. All revolutions occured in pre-industrial societies, not Germany or England and class warfare is not the engine of history. But there are believers in all sorts of untrue nonsense like Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose day of reckoning gets continuosuly postponed. I never said Berlinski was some evil djinn. As far as Ben Stein goes, I guess he never amused me too much, since I never liked “Ferris Buler’s Plays Hookey” en toto, and speech writers are not prophets. Besides, you and they insult and demean respected Scientists based on their beliefs in Evolution. Richard Dawkins, as I surmise is not an ambassador or a politician, so his skills at making people like him may be slim. But we are not judging him on a high school popularity contest level either.