A Comment About

Getting It Wrong about Atheism and Science

April 29, 2008 - 12:00 am - by John Derbyshire
Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord
2008-04-30 14:22:49

Squirril,

Your capacity to argue at the edges of an issue – while apparently pleasing yourself intellectually – is not in question.

Classy, really… I believe you are terribly confused about what I was arguing if that line of puerile nonsense is your honest response.


1) A theory intended to explain life on Earth (in its grand view and certainly within its modern practice, that is what ToE is) but says nothing of how life was to have begun, is a scientific cop out.

Darwin wasn’t trying to explain the origin of all life on earth, he was making observations about the possible origin of species (hence the name of the book). Further, I am carrying no water for idiots that honestly believe everything happened by accident, some amino acids and a shot of electricity. I have no idea how Life, The Universe and Everything got started, nor, do I think, does anyone else. Some people believe fairy tales. Some people believe theories… which without hard evidence and decent observation, are just modern fairy tales.


2) The evidence that would be associated with your latter statement has not been forthcoming to the great shegrin of science – in fact the opposite regularly is found to the the case.

I agree, i9n some sense… HOWEVER, this is the precise point that makes Evolutionary Studies “Science” and Intelligent Design… not.

We can go look for things that evolutionists think should be there… sometimes the thing is there, sometimes it is not. But, at least we have a method of observation and research that can perhaps prove or disprove the theory.

ID, on the other hand, has no observable phenomena, no testable hypothesis and there is certainly no way to prove or disprove the idea of Intelligent Design… That, my friend falls to the realm of Belief, Faith or Philosophy… the same spot that Atheism exists in.

You can rightly bitch about Atheists claiming that Science supports their beliefs… but that in no way makes ID any more sciency.