““Germany is not a single payer system, for one.”
Correct. But it gets the same results. And I’d be all for a similar system.”
But you keep including it in your list of “single payer” systems when it isn’t. Why?
“If we can get the idiot American’s to stop crying “socialized medicine”, “waiting times”, Obama “want’s to take over the health care industry” and other complete and utter nonsense and actually debate the issues we might be able to get somewhere.”
It would help if Obama’s answer to the question at the press conference wasn’t so obviously dishonest–because it certainly appears that this is his goal. And the Canadian system, which prohibits medical providers from providing services outside of the single payer system is clearly “socialized medicine.” If you don’t want critics complaining about socialized medicine, don’t hold up Canada as an example of what you want.
The waiting times problem is very real. As is the need that Canada has to send patients to the U.S., because they have underbuilt their health system to save money.
