Ten,
Ok, let’s break it down like this:
Science is the study of testable, repeatable phenomena. It cannot speak on untestable, non repeatable phenomena. As of yet, there is no testable method for Creation, nor for God. Therefore, any scientist worth more than the ink on the diploma should not claim that Science disproves God or Creation. However, a scientist can claim that the ‘model of evolution’ as defined via genetic drift, survival of the fittest etc can be testable, and therefore falls into the area that Science can talk about.
Intelligent Design, as of yet has not come up with a testable theory, nor a repeatable way to observe anything. Therefore, it cannot be considered within the context of Science. It can be discussed in terms of religion, or belief or philosophy (which is really where idiots like Dawkins should be).
On the topic of Moses, the history of the Jews etc. THERE EXISTS NO EVIDENCE OUTSIDE OF HEBREW SCRIPTURE that Moses ever existed, or that the Jews were slaves in Egypt, nor that The Jews created a 12 tribe nation, nor that King Saul, King David or King Solomon existed. Not one proof of archaeological remains from David’s expansive Kingdom, nor even a scrap of the foundation of Solomon’s temple has been uncovered. In fact, most archaeological evidence now indicates that the Jewish nation probably did not exist as a nation until after the people of the area returned from captivity in Babylon.
Those are the facts.
Now, if we determine that the Bible is a good enough resource to base belief on, then that is certainly fine… but that belief has no more credibility than Mr. Dawkins, because it confuses the spiritual with the physical. Science can tell us about the physical (like the genetic similarities between species or the lack of evidence for King Solomon), but it can’t tell us about the spiritual.
The Bible can tell us something which would be considered spiritual to many people, but let’s face it… it often does a pretty poor job of talking about the physical world that exists outside of simple human observation (sun moving around the earth, flat earth, surrounded by water etc etc etc).
In the end, anyone who thinks that a religion or science IS TRUTH seem equal in their ignorance. Both systems can provide useful models, but the model is not the reality. The Map is not the territory and the Menu is not the Meal. So many seem to eat the menu with Ketchup.
Now, if you would care to discuss Christian Theology, I would be more than happy to discuss that with you off line.
