you seem to be missing the point either purposely or that [sic] you really don’t understand.
Like your namesake, you’re quite impervious to reason, NOP. Each time you’re confronted with the fallacy of your position you move the goalposts and restate yourself more loudly.
The leader and self-proclaimed prophet of said polygamist sect is serving time in jail for what?
And your point would be?
The mayor of Detroit has committed crimes and presides over urban decay, illiteracy, underage pregnancies and births, drug use and commerce, and a host of sins. Is Detroit rounded up and penned in a foster collective run by the State of Michigan, even as socialized as it is?
No? Then why?
Jeffs is the David Koresh of the YFZ [sic] community.
By that logic, which presumes the guilt of folks just because of who they associate with, any criminal mayor of any major city would be the gangsta of the urban community.
The preaching of which, include [sic] the marrying off of underage girls to adult men without their consent.
An assertion that shy of a conviction of every last male who sired every one of those 400+ children, leaves intact the latter’s freedoms under the constitution. Which may explain CPS not seeking warrants to prosecute urban America.
May.
…our courts disagree with your cavelier [sic] attitudes [sic] towards [sic] the rights of children not to be handed off in marriage.
Where are those rights enumerated? I ask not because I disagree but to test the obvious limits of your knowledge, again, of rights.
At any rate, our courts have clear and evidently cavalier attitudes toward my rights and the rights of my fellow Americans. By the evidence in this case and by the simple majority weight of moralists such as yourself, all too ready to convict by opinion and majority and let God sort it all out. Are you even familiar with the Bill of Rights?
…child rape and breeding…
You keep beating that same drum, don’t you, louder every time. You really don’t see how that only amplifies the fallacy of your shoot first, ask questions later.
And if I were to state that much of America was presided over by lawbreaking cheats and villains? Are you possibly that naive?
…we have created the mess that these kids and women now find themselves in.
Spectacularly ironic, considering how you have zero sense of just how tyrannical the State has become when it comes to personal, family rights.
Clearly, very clearly, the rights regarding “religious freedom” is in need of closer examination so that this wholesale pedophilia sex slavery that ran through the YFZ ranch never happens again. Agreed?
What’s clear is the interesting rhetoric you need to select in order to frame your oddly irrational argument. What’s agreed is that you are now actually inventing conditions so as to support your irrational premise. You’re simply wrong: Government may not tear up an entire community of hundreds of families on false accusation and the suspicion of the possible wrongs of a small minority.
…they should not remain in the hands of parents who followed such a creep as Warren Jeffs is clear…
You alarm me. You should alarm every right-thinking American who values his rights and is aware of the assault on them by the State. Tell me, are you in any way aware of the vast commerce that a case like this engages? It’s connection to federal policy and enormous financial kickbacks to the State?
Our judicial system sadly for you, doesn’t agree with you.
Sadly, indeed. And I don’t agree with your resorting to this presumptive proof by court authority any more than I have your other fallacious attempts to persuade your rather unreasonable argument.
Rather, I see you as largely out of facts and entirely out of perspective.
Our laws persist to protect the weakest of us.
Our rights exist to protect the weakest of us and our laws must follow those rights, not trump and trash them. Your tacitly agreeing that foster care is dangerous is yet another admission that you’re clueless about that concept. I already know you’re clueless about the trail of money and power here.
I would say this is an important lesson for us all.
It is. It is a lesson in the fragility of rights and the horrible power of unchecked, blind, thuggish majority moral power.
That’s it for me, poster. You’ll surely never be reasoned out of something you quite obviously weren’t reasoned into. Your abusive style doesn’t earn you any points either.
For you we have those collectives of poor thought and irrationality where legislated thuggery passes for reason and brute law and the process of brutish law passes for constitutionality.
You are precisely what the Framers feared. And they spoke of it.
