Flicker, You and that “neocon” business. You still have not answered the questions posed to you about your “neocon” fantasies.
Who are these “neocons” as a “political movement”? How are they not just what we used to call “Democrats” before the Marxist took over te Democrat Party?
(and spare me quoting Bill Kristol or Strauss for Pete’s sake, how silly can you get?)
You keep ducking this. All we get out of you is regurgitation of hard left agitprop, jargon and its loopy geopolitical “logic” (read “paranoid delusions”).
It is you that is being manipulated, and not by some “neocon cabal” but rather by Marxist propagandists whose lineage, intent and agitprop you do not understand, and the context of which you are thoroughly oblivious to. It is Obama’s section that departs from the American posture of the last 100 years or so, not these so called “neocons”. This attempt to “frame” this as a “neocon plot” is just hokum. This “neocon” meme is just another one of these frauds foisted on us by the left, and like almost all of them the intent is to caste the normal response of America as somehow “evil” and an “innovation” that departs from our ideals, traditions and history. This particular meme also seeks to blame this on “the Jooos”. But it is a complete inversion of reality. It is an attempt derail American from her historic role, morally cripple her and cause her to hesitate at exactly the moment when she should not do so. It is just another bit of vile agitprop from the left meant to force America to do just what the International Left has always wanted her to to: Leave them alone so that they can get on with their perdify.
Was JFK a “neocon”? Was LBJ? Was “FDR”? If they were, then just what does the moniker “neocon” really mean? What you are calling “neocons” we used to call “Reagan Democrats”, for crying out loud.
As I have seen saind around the net lately:
That vile neocon plot: Freedom and Democracy.
Flicker, just what are you standing for and what are you against?
What are you defending? What are you decrying?
You need to do a little soul searching. You are being lead by your vanity to stand for some very immoral things.
Let us be clear: The Left wants to destroy Western Civilization. Two of their key targets are America and Israel. They hope to use Islam to bring both of them down.
If you think otherwise, just like at how the Left is using Islam against the West in the EU.
And the “neocon’s support structure is weak”? There is no such thing.
It is a complete construct of the Left. This is a fantasy world that you “discussing”.
If you think that Americans do not hold dear most of the beliefs that you ascribe to “neocons” you are quite mistaken. The response to Obama’s dithering quite shows this.
If you think that the majority of Americans want Israel destroyed or are Jew haters, you are quite wrong. If you think that the majority of Americans do not want America to stand firm in her historical role as a strong leader of the West you are quite mistaken. You are evidently too young to remember the Cold Qar and just what we sacrificed for it. Trust me, the American response to the Cold War was not part of some “Right Wing Plot”. It was taken up firmly and with open eyes by a broad coalition of the electorate and upheld strongly by both parties across decades of travail, that is it was upheld by both parties until the hard Left took over the Democrats in the late 1960′s and early 1970′s. If you think otherwise it is because your teachers have been lying to you.
Assimilated Jews have often had this problem when they encounter statist ideologies in societies where they have mingled and flourished. Ideologues require scapegoats, and the Jews are prime targets, particularly when the ideology in question is a collectivist one. This was the case both in Germany; this was the case in Russia. In the case of Marxism, the whole matter is exacerbated by the tendency of secular Jewish intellectuals to project their religious tendencies and predilections onto that ideology.
In the case of the secular American Jew and the American Left there is nothing new here–it is really just a reflection of the Soviet case. What is new is that by means of the dodge of this “neocon” propaganda anti-jewish bigotry has come out in the open and has become acceptable once again in “polite company”. Moreover, for the first time in our history it has actually become part of policy, and in fact a primary policy of one of the major political parties.
This is a shameful business.
