@110. Bilgeman:
You miss my point. I’m not endorsing anything, simply pointing out the absolute failure conservativism has had in dismantling our biggest collectivist policies.
You mention objections being raised about Social Security in the 80′s… I discount them for the same reason I discount current objections: Social Security can be easily milked for decades just by minor changes. In the 80′s we got a tax increase and that pushed back the debate for another 20 years.
That’s my point, we’re talking about this mythical collapse of collectivism as though that will be vindication enough for conservatives.





