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May 4, 2009 - 12:43 am - by AWR Hawkins
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2009-05-05 13:42:43

@160. Chuck Pelto: That Document that was presented by the campaign was not a ‘Birth Certificate’. It was a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’. Anyone can walk into the Hawaiian government and get one if they’re living and breathing.

Right. And CBP, if you want to get really nit-picky, semantical and gnat’-ass-dead-on-balls accurate – as we of course should be when we’re talking about eligibility to be elected Leader of the Free World – the document presented by the campaign was a ‘Certification of Live Birth’ (says so right in the document’s title block). I pointed that out, along with the significance of this difference back in December.

Here’s what an actual Hawaii long-form COLB looks like. This is the form BHO has kept under lock and key in Hawaii (or in whatever federal vault it’s in, now that he’s the most powerful individual on the face of the planet). Note the section at the bottom used to record information on any alterations, which doesn’t appear on the Certification form produced by BHO’s campaign. This is done on purpose, so that an individual can present a Certification with a new name, birthplace (?), etc., and retain the privacy of the information on their original certificate. Hawaii law is completely moot on whether or not the place of birth can be amended, but of course it stands to reason that absent any explicit restriction in this regard, a U.S. Senator could have such a change made based purely on his own signature.

The problem all along has been that very few people have any knowledge of Hawaii law or its impact in this regard, and are unaware of two key facts. First is the fact that Hawaiian parents of a child born anywhere can legally have the birth recorded with a valid certificate in Hawaii. Note that this would trigger a birth announcement in local periodicals even if the birth occurred in Antarctica, so the local birth announcement is not “evidence” of place of birth. Second is the fact that a Certification of Live Birth may legally contain information that is remarkably different from the information that appears on the original, long-form, unamended, vault copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. The certificate’s owner can record amendments as desired, and any subsequent Certification documents will reflect the changes. All of this was pointed out in Alan Keyes’ challenge in CA.

So, whether or not the document provided by BHO’s campaign that had any signatures or seals is completely moot. Even if it had those signatures and/or seals, it still would not have provided evidence to support BHO’s claim of natural born citizenship. Only the original, unamended (and unamendable) vault copy of his COLB would provide that evidence – and he refuses to release that for some very strange reason.

I’m hesitant to post much more on this topic in this thread, since it’s been beaten so very completely to death and because the truth is so glaringly obvious to anyone who takes five minutes to go look up the Hawaii statutes. The comment thread from Moran’s post back in December has pretty much everything anyone would ever want to know on this topic. The bottom line is that it’s been swept under the rug and only an act of Congress is ever going to pull it out again.