RE #115/Pastor of Muppets: [...] Yes, the morality, integrity and judgment of our country are at stake, but that is not the crux of the argument. The crux of the argument is that torture is a crime, and that the president cannot just use some fancy lawyering to make torture legal because he feels like it. At our very core, we are a nation of laws and not of men. [...]
My, how superior you are, cicerone! I totally blinded by your splendid aura!
1) At the crux of the matter is a much simpler fact than your contortion, that is, whether the athleticism required for acquiring some information from a potential wrongdoer outweights as ugliness the potential consequences of that person’s intended act – and this is not the case, since generally the acquired information through intense methods was in our cases instrumental and the consequences of its use have vastly outweighted in terms of protecting lives and property the bruises or crumpled dignity of one or another fredom fighter.
2) … as far as “a nation of laws and not of men”, I am not surprised that a vacuous liberal like you goes for this ancient bumper sticker – it’s a silly joke.
3) … and now, buddy, get some education for y/self – walk to a library and get JP Sartre’s “The Prisoner of Altona” (a stage play), read it (if can), then think it over (if you can). Also you can rent the film adaptation, w Frederich March, Maximillian Schell and Sophia Loren.
Cicerone, but you will not do this because the essence of liberalism is grandstanding in front of some bleating associates, gesticulating, braying in the wind, and discharging unrequested loads of inexistent enlightenment – the Johann Galtung, MoveOnOrg and other cews making for the bleating audience.
Sorry lot you are, liberals -
