JeanE,
The illegals would more aptly be called “migrants” – as they used to be called before it became politically incorrect – or more aptly, “invaders”. I don’t fault you on the terminology, but those running the open-border side of the debate who have gone out of their way to confuse the issue with their intentional abuse of the terminology.
As to any chance of us counting on the Mexican government helping us on this, that idea has to be totally discounted, as the Mexican government has worked AGAINST us on this, trying to push as many people through the border as possible. Anything that depends on cooperation with Mexico is doomed to utter failure – just look at the country of Mexico, itself.
As to tamper-proof ID’s and other laws to be enforced in the future, I don’t see why our current laws cannot be enforced but new laws will be. I just don’t believe it. Not in any way whatsoever.
As to illegals who have been here 20 years (they are not the bulk of the problem, as the border was swung wide open by Bush, mostly, and a huge number of illegals were allowed to come rushing in here AFTER 9/11!!!!!) .. but, those same illegals who have been here for 20 years had no problem uprooting themselves from places they lived for far longer than that – to break into our country.
You have to understand why our southern border was open, to begin with. It was as a favor to Mexico, to allow migrant farmers to travel here with the seasons, make money, and return. But they became greedy when they realized that we let them operate on the honor system and started abusing our generosity. No good deed goes unpunished. This is like someone who takes all the change in the bowl by the cashier. It’s there for everyone and if people can’t be trusted to be decent, then it will be there for no one.
You have to keep in mind one very important fact, most of your side of the argument rests on the idea that we cannot enforce our own law, because we’re “too nice” to do anything like that, but then no new law can be passed with anyone taking it seriously. Do you see my point? All of your ID cards and requirements and such will mean nothing, and the flow of illegals will not stop, even with a border fence.
Americans have to decide if we want a sovereign nation. It’s just that simple. Bush, McCain, most of the Dims, and others have chosen “No”. This is understandable for Bush, his family has had a bug up their butt about globalism for a long time. They don’t seem to like the notion of sovereign nations. McCain seems to be just too dumb to understand the situation.
What we will get, though, by legalizing the illegals, and having them bring their families in to keep them happy, will be secession votes, eventually, in the states of the southwest where these nice illegals already think it should be Mexican property. We don’t have the guts to throw a few million illegals out, do you think the US would survive secession votes by those states (which would infect others, too)? This would spell the absolute end of the United States as an entity, and the entire world would lose the greatest nation that has ever existed – all for the sake of a few million third worlders who have no business here, to begin with.
As to how I would deal with the illegals here, I would cut off all services to any of them and throw them out as they come into contact with any offical points of contact. By attrition, they would mostly leave. And for those who didn’t, I would make their lives totally unbearable.
Look, the US is in the great position of having everyone in the world wanting to come here. We can choose the best of the world, and should. To have millions of aliens imposing their will on us, and take up spaces that I would rather have filled by quality individuals, thus restricting our choice as to who we want here, is a cost so great that it would make your head spin if it was properly accounted.
But the question of whether a sovereign nation should enforce its own laws, even if it makes some people unhappy, is not one that really needs any defense.
We will always have illegals here, and it’s better to solve this potentially fatal problem now, rather than trying to push it off and pretend that it won’t come back (as McCain does). It will come back, even moreso, because the prize of legal US residency is just worth too much to have its gifting, to those who should never get it, do anything but encourage more to come.
But, when people want to be loved by everyone (even those who hate us and love stealing from us) these are the sort of dilemmas we get ourselves into.
Personally, I think that Bush should have been impeached (and worse) for his refusal to defend American borders, especially after 9/11, and I will hope and work for impeachments and treason charges for all the people who try to give this country away in lieu of acting like adults and enforcing our laws.
Do I want illegals living in the shadows? Yes. Absolutely. They have no right to live in the sunshine of a country that didn’t invite them and doesn’t want them. It’s interesting how they all know how many problems they are causing us, and how Americans are incensed at their presence, but they still refuse to leave. Still! Yeah … that’s a great bunch of potential Americans, there.
I shed no tears for the illegals, except in seeing how they are destroying my country and how many of my fellow citizens seem oblivious to the danger … and worse.
