Yehudit
2009-04-15 18:58:21

I’m going to respond to the liberal scoffers here, because they are repeating MSM & Robert Gibbs talking points, which are false.

1) 40% percent of Americans pay no fed income tax because of all the deductions. Therefore their “tax cut” is a PAYMENT from the gov taken from the other 60% who make enough to pay. This is redistributionism, also Democrat city-machine Chicago-style patronage. Everyone should pay SOME tax to have a stake in their own government and more important not become a bought off constituency of the Democratic Party who gives them free goodies at the expense of everyone else.

Likewise bailouts, which yes, Bush and some Pubs ALSO voted for, which was wrong.

2) the wealthy pay proportionally more taxes than everyone else, but they are demonized by Obama’s class warfare. He also treats the Republicans like shit. Mr “Unity” who was supposed to bring us together is the most divisive president of all time, according to polls.

3) anyone who has money in the markets (half the adults in the US) have seen their savings and investments plummet as a result of Obama’s and Pelosi’s fiscal mismanagement. (This is not the “wealthy” this is ordinary people with 401Ks.)

The economy began to go sour in 2007. Obama inherited the 2006 huge majority Democratic Congress. Congress makes the laws, the President can influence them but esp if he is of the opposite party and if they have such a huge majority. Reagan faced the same problem which is why he had trouble reducing the deficit. Clinton had a strongly Republican Congress after 1994, which is why at the end of his term the deficit was paid off. Obama blames Bush but either he is stupid or he lies. He also said economists agree with his program but 200 of them including several Nobel winners put full page ads in the NYT & WaPo saying his econ policies are bunk.

4) If you are indicting the Republican spending under Bush (which I & teaparty protesters agree was a bad thing) why do you approve the same thing under Obama? His deficit is 4x that of Bush, to the extent that we are way more in hock to the Chinese and they are now uneasy about the worth of our dollar. His/Pelosi’s proposed spending will create a deficit of $12 trillion, higher than all previous spending from the founding of this nation until now, combined. That includes the Depression, WWII, and the Iraq War. The CBO says this will depress the US economy for years to come. How can you indict Bush for doing a little of this and call it a stimulus under Obama?

5) How is this a stimulus when most of it won’t be spent for 2 years? Most of the spending kicks in 2010, just in time for mid-term elections, and most of the spending is pork, 1/7th of it is going to IL. This is vote buying. Where do taxes come from? People who work in private industry, which is the generator of wealth. So half the population has money taken from them to a slush fund for the Dems to hand out to their friends, plus organizations like ACORN who commit vote fraud for them. How is there a net increase in jobs?

(Yes, Republicans do this too, but the only people standing against this are Republicans. Dems have traditionally been the tax & spend party, Pubs have traditionally been the small gov/pro biz party. And to the extent the teapartiers are disgusted with both, they want the Pubs to return to their roots, that’s why they voted them in.)

Yes corporate and capital gains tax cuts – the taxes Obama is RAISING – stimulate business to invest which creates jobs and raises investment returns to all those households with 401Ks (50% of the US) who then have more money to buy things. Because more people have more taxable income, you can lower individual taxes but still bring in more revenue. Every time those kind of taxes have been cut, that has been the result. Obama was aksed about this during a debate and said that didn’t matter because he cared more about being “fair.” What is “fair” to him, creating $12 trillion debt and putting half the country on welfare? The guy has NO understanding of private enterprise at all.

Cutting the deficit is independent of this income. Once you get the tax income you can spend it different ways, but cutting the deficit and cutting borrowing from despotic regimes is a good choice. Obama is creating the worst of both worlds by expanding the deficit hugely at the same time he depresses creation of wealth = huge debt. No economist agrees he can pay down that kind of deficit, there aren’t that many rich people in the country. All he can do is borrow and print money. We did that in the 30s, dictators like Mugabe and Chavez do it, and it doesn’t work except to consolidate their power.

BTW both McCain and Palin have track records of fiscal responsibility and resisting deficit spending, and Palin was the only candidate last year who had run a business. One of many reasons I voted for them.

6) As someone already said, Republicans didn’t organize the event, although some tried to ride on its coattails and in some cases were politely rebuffed. Unlike Moveon and Obama’s canvassing groups and Podesta’s coordinated attack on Rush Limbaugh, it was NOT organized from the top down.

7) Estimates at Teaparty HQ are 200,000 nationwide. Based on reports I have seen verified by police and local news, they are correct.

I could go on about the unconstitutionality of taking over and strong-arming private businesses, passing bills of attainder, appointing czars to report directly to him and shutting out Congress, trying to move the census out of Commerce, attempting to increase fed power over the states, trying to appoint transnational progressives who believe US sovereignty should be subject to “international law” …

One of the things I love about the tea parties is the emphasis on the Constitution, which means people understand it and appreciate it and want to educate on it. They understand WHY the Constitution is mostly negative rights, why that is supportive of dignity and freedom and is our precious unique heritage, for which people from all over the world try to emigrate here. They understand that a government which has power to do things FOR has power to do things TO you. And always will, if history is any guide.

It is so hopeful to me that even after years of constant leftist messaging and Gramscian “march through the institutions” so many people remember who we are.