FC (45) my friend, you have stumbled into the actual point of this discussion, to restate your post:
45. FC:
To all of you accepting torture as a legit tool to avoid an attack innocent civilians:
Is the Iranian Government entitled to torture a captured american pilot to get intel on the supposed attack plans of the US on its nuclear installations ?
Is the Hezbollah and/or the Hamas entitled to torture captured Israeli soldiers to get intel on the attack plans of Israel against supposed Lebanon or Gaza civilians ?
Was the Gestapo entitled to torture my grandfather during WWII to get intel on the identity of its fellows terrorist of the Maquis des Glières resistance group ?
Was the japanese empire entitled to torture captured american soldiers to get intel about a supposed unprecedent attack of two mostly civilans cities with a rumored new secret weapon?
If you answer no a any of these scenario: of nothing but f+++ing hypocrites.
Feb 27, 2009 – 8:59 pm
Of course the answer is no to all of your questions… BUT all of them would and nothing we do or say would have any effect. Here lies the flaw in your premise from my original post. We could waterboard every captive or we could put them up in the Hilton and give them room service. It would have no effect on our people in their hands at all. These people live by no code of honor. They live to destroy. We are merely trying to survive an enemy that is savage beyond our imagining. Your attempt at moral equivalence illustrates that you do not yet understand what we are facing.
GDT
