Ok Walter Hudson, I will grant that you bring your libertarian view in a serious and sincere way.
But there are several things in particular that really rile me here.
First – I don’t think you have been reading VD Hanson close at all. You articulate your view well enough – so you can’t rely on just being silly or stupid. But really now, common. You see a whole confluence of tired urban myths about lazy white boys and all? Because the take out joint you like has let you down after enforcement kicked in?
I first read Hanson about the time I started to see noticable changes regarding immigration here in Phoenix. (tripling population in less than 3 years in an area less than fourty square miles will do that) A little BEFORE 9/11. At the time we were considered, besides HotLanta, the #2 desired destination my friend. The vally of the sun was the place to be. Tax friendly -corporations were flocking here. Every where the place was blowing up. The offical unemployment rate after new years 2000 was around 2%. Certianly as close to anything I ever encountered as full employment – when living the majority of my life in Ohio – or stints in Va, Pa, NC and NYC. Hanson already was chronicalling nearly 20 years of what amounted to surrender in Cali. How that slow decline was entirely politiclly motivated – it has directly led to 30 years of political dominace by Democrats.
To what end?
When the last Republican – Pete Wilson – left office – California was just then coming into the public conciousness because of the very immigrant excellence you quite inappropriatly conclude is a dominate Latino trait. These are exactly the kind we all want coming to America – well educated – often already wealthy – innovative…they don’t just create jobs they creat whole friggin sectors….
Where are the great Latino companies and great Latino innovators?
My friend you are kinda sheltered up there in kannuk land of minntakka or whatever. You don’t know squat about what you are talking about when it comes to the southwest…or the topic. Just being civil now.
Your quasi – free flow of labor libertarian bunk – that equates chinese and indian engineers with Oxacan peasants without so much as a 1st grade education -and then have the temerity to claim ‘you’ve read’ VD Hanson, is typical of libertarian Ron Paulism. You wax philosophy while people who have been here generations but just want…what…handouts…?….people are getting crushed in debt and joblessness…we hear this quaint bootstraps rah rah.
Here is what you leave out about all that history you quote. Labor Violence. Ethnic and racial violence. Land ownership on the southwest border that acted as ipso facto posse comitatus until WWIII. Repatriation as much to survive the threat of violence as for some longing to forgo the need for American assimilation.
And it seems, as a black man, just about all of our collective civil rights history since about 1917?
The kind of violence Arizonans are frequently being accused of but nobody doing the finger pointing manage to back up with anything but the occational death by restraint in Maricopa County – hardly a unique tragedy – since it likewise happens by accident all over the country.
Instead because we push back politically – like it is our state and our right – we are the new racists skinheads ect ect ect.
Finally, I don’t buy you are interested in a civil discussion about illegal immigration any more than PJ Media’s resident marxist provacatour – Ruben Navarrette. Frankly your arguments don’t sound much different than the St of San Deigo. Same old border security…but…rule of law…but.
At a time when millions of americans are teetering with a new reality that food stamps has replaced the dignity of work, the most pervasive unemployment and labor drop out since WWII, a host of failings when it comes to education or any kind of retraining for workers who have found themselves adrift in their 30′s, 40′s, and 50′s….and you are going to lecture people about why its probably a good thing we have tens of millions here both uninvited, expensive, and unwanted?
Well I have read Victor D Hanson. And I’ve seen californication devastate my adopted home. It was politically motivated here – just as it was in California. It wasn’t just SB1070- look up the history from the moment Janet Nappy snuck into office. Democrats have a hard time selling progressivism in Arizona. Importing voters was a major reason we once were an open borders state under her – and a major reason why there are a lot of forclosed homes and empty office towers and cinder boxes.
I and the rest of Arizona has already lived your quaint andicdotial experiment.
You don’t know squat about what you are talking about. And if enough Minnesotians are stupid enough to buy your snake bit bull…then hey..go ahead..let them test the theory.
It could be that ownership at your favorite Tex Mex franchise just happened to take a haircut after 9/08 as easy as the breezy kumbya observations you have tried selling. I was halfway to beliving you were just going all sarcastic on us until I started reading your comment responses.
You may be serious, and you may be sincere, but you are so far out of your depth on a subject way more important than getting your burrito on time friend.
Stop writing and go back to school with VD Hanson. Read him again. Then after that READ HIM OVER AGAIN. You missed the forrest for the trees.
