@95. David S: The study you cite is ludicrous on its face.
Your opinion. Only. Suitable for parakeet cage lining based on what you’ve presented so far.
- I already did “produce some data”, …
Nope. Nothing relevant to the source I originally linked. You made up your own irrelevant metric – otherwise know as deflection – and want to use that to obfuscate the issue. Repeating your assertion over and over doesn’t make it valid. But that’s what trolls like you do, Zippy. I guess it can’t be helped.
- You have provided no reason that my assessment of the intuitive values Ingroup/Loyalty, Authority/Respect, and Purity/Sanctity is erroneous.
First, it’s not your assessment. You stole it from someone else without even understanding what it means. Second, you don’t seem to comprehend basic logic, which doesn’t bode well for a someone who claims to have a philosophy degree: you haven’t provided any compelling rationale, much less any empirical data, to support your silly notion. And on top of that, your copy/pasted drivel has already been debunked by the authority in the field. You’d know this if you took the time to read, study and understand the relevant literature. More major fail for for you, Zippy.
- Totalitarianism is dependent on the precise moral intuitions most associated with theocrats.
This, again, is merely your opinion – based on absolutely nothing more than your ethically incomplete moral viewpoint. Try reading some actual history of leftist thought and totalitarian societies of the 20th century. Not the pabulum you were brainwashed with, by the disgruntled Marxists living off tenure and your parents’ hard-earned money where you went to college, but the parts they carefully airbrushed out. Start with Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism and work your way outward through his numerous sources. There’s plenty more where that came from. It’ll hurt, because it’ll dispel the fantasies you’ve carefully nurtured with so much sophomoric, passive-aggressive emotional energy. But it’ll be worth it in the end, Zippy. No pain, no gain, remember?
- The recognition of a “Creator” in our founding documents is found only in the Declaration of Independence…
Which is the founding document that separated America from England and created this nation. The very basis upon which the colonies justified their independence and founded a new nation was the recognition and preservation of inalienable rights “endowed by their Creator“. This is not a secular concept in the slightest. The Constitution does not define our nation, it merely organized the nation’s government and limited that government’s power over the People, based on the principles enumerated in the Declaration: the inalienable rights endowed by their Creator. Geez, don’t they teach you kids anything about U.S. history or civics these days?
- Yes, Haidt confirms that conservative “moral intuition” is characterized by “dumbfounding” moments, where a conclusion is reached without any logical antecedent.
Again, you should actually read Haidt’s work rather than just simply making sh!t up or relying on others’ interpretations for copy/paste. Haidt discusses neurological science that demonstrates how our moral intuition operates, physiologically. And that is EVERYONE’s physiology, Zippy – all humans, including YOU – not just self-described conservatives. You’d have known that if you’d read his work. The process transcends conscious thought, but it is hardly without any logical antecedent; it relies on inherent, constantly revised intuitive ethics we’re all born with, and which change as we grow (some of us more than others, obviously). This is the kind of stuff you miss when you rely on others to do your thinking for you.
You can pretend to argue with me on this all you like, Zippy, but it’s obvious to anyone reading who’s familiar with Haidt’s work, or the field of Positive Psychology in general, that you’re not familiar with the topic and you’re simply talking out of your @ss.
- Correct.
LOL. Troll.
- The bottom line is that “intuitive ethics” are anathema to a free society, …
Again, you have failed, utterly, to understand the concepts discovered, analyzed and documented in Haidt’s and his colleagues’ work. You refuse to read, study and understand it, yet you think you can pass judgment on it based on a cursory glance at others’ critiques and your own half-witted, meth-and-O’kool-aid philosophical nonsense. Sorry Zippy, but that’s the stuff trolls are made of.
The notion of intuitive ethics is the very essence of a free society, in point of fact. And you would recognize this if your adolescent ego allowed you to do so. But it’s clear that’s going to take a few years living somewhere other than your parents’ house, supporting a family of your own, paying substantial taxes and seeing much of that simply handed to individuals who haven’t earned it and don’t deserve it. Get a real job. Live a real life. Then we’ll talk.
Oh, and go look up ‘vitriol’ when you get a moment. You obviously have no clue what that means either. Ta.
