PJ Media

Some VERY interesting posts on a difficult subject.

Most of the time, I don’t buy arguments that invoke we HAVE to do it, because “it’s for the children”.

In these “cases”, I think it really is for “our children”.

I will say I was a “trustee” of a mainstream church, and we needed to set the policy for “who, when, and where” about people who interacted with “our children”. And, “our” two-people policy prohibits married or “significant others” from being the “two people”. Because of a “very few”, but very nasty incidents. Not “ours”, but “known”.

I do like to tweak people who take offense about the Scouts not really liking gay “people of power” in their structure, and trying to “ban them”. I don’t have a problem “with gays working with boys”, but you had better have a “three adults present at ALL times” rule.

You figure out how to monitor that on “camping out in tents” trips. I loved scouting as a kid. And, the adults were about as “manly” role models as you could ever ask for. I never knew of “any problems”. In the “1950′s”.

I do know that one time in “my tent” a boy two years older talked to four of us about how his older brother’s wife had taken his virginity when he came over to a Friday night poker party. And, all the men watched them. I don’t know if this was true. But, it was the first time I ever saw a male jack off to orgasm while he told us the story, and we watched him. No homosexual “interaction” took place at all. But, at age twelve, it made me very erect, which “I hid”. And, I felt VERY guilty.

And, it was MUCH later in my life before I felt REALLY comfortable with any and all hetrosexual “stuff” with partners.

So, I never “discount” people’s versions of “their lives”.
Maybe true. Maybe not.

When I’ve been hit with the this Scouting is being “unfair to gays” argument, I say:

OK, you have a 13/14 year old daughter.
She’s in the Girl Scouts.
You think this age can’t be a “bit of a precocious child” ?
And, wanting to try out “her skills” ?

You don’t have any problem with me as a hetrosexual male taking her troop on a weekend camping trip.
And, I get to determine the “tent arrangements.

You don’t have any “problem” that I might see her as a “sex object”.
Do you ?

That is based on some “similar” stuff.
That I RAN FROM.

Reasonable people want to avoid “ANY child/teenager temptation” at all costs.
It could cost your your reputation.
It could cost you your FREEDOM !
Even worse, it could screw up some kid’s life.