Tery Gain – You are a Truther if you buy, as you, Gain, did in a previous thread – the conspiracy theory that Obama was secretly brought to Kenya from Hawaii, at great expense and risk to the pregnancy in the early 60s – so he could be born there.
It’s a nutty theory. Only Truthers swallow it.
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Jim Baker:
I am a geophysicist, not a Fundies as you call it. I have forgotten more earth science than you or cedarford ever learned. You cannot prove a theory by correlating statistical data.
Why do so many global warming skeptics like Baker use the same language as the “evolution debunkers”? They usually start proclaiming their scientific acumen, then say that any evidence or statistical data cannot be used to demonstrate an obvious fact…which they insist remains just “unproven theory”?
Baker ignores my past post saying the Earth has had warming and cooling periods, or the matters still unresolved in factoring in CO2 accumulation and other possible contributors to determine the extent to which they, if at all, contribute to global warming.
That we are in a global warming period the last 400 years is indisputable to all but religious and ideological deniers.
I tend to be a skeptic on CO2 causing all the warming of the last 400 years, and I am extremely skeptical of the solutions and stupid little pieces of symbolism proposed by Gore and others of CFL lamps, magic solar power coming to save us from evil oil, horrible plastic shopping bags, and the idea that reducing American’s standard of living will somehow “cure Gore’s planet” while India and China and 3 billion other 3rd-Worlders are left to pollute away.
But in the debate, just as infuriating as ignorant Greenies with their stupid whale-love and windpower worship – are the ignorant, anti-science figures on the Right convinced that population and GNP can grow endlessly, magic technical solutions will solve all energy, other resource constraints. That all environmental concerns are “luxuries”. Where half the Republican Presidential candidates are afraid to say they believe in evolution as a biological mechanism. Where we find the same arguements against evolution and for ID recycled to use to deny not just AGW, but todays 400-year long GW trend.
