moro
2007-10-22 23:46:38

Of course I don’t get it – with a percentage of the population under 5% (being generous here, as even you are unlikely to think that every follower of Islam is a radical follower of Islamo-fascism – oh wait, did I use the word fascism? silly me) how are the Moroccan-Dutch etc. supposed to take over the Netherlands?

These fantasies of dangerous Islamic terrorists may make more sense in the Netherlands, but then, I guess you don’t have too much experience with terrorism, unlike Spain with ETA – and notice how when the bombs went off in Madrid, the conservative government was eager to claim it was ETA. Which a few months later, at the Madrid airport, turned out to be true – it was an ETA car bomb. If I recall, ETA is about as Christian as the IRA.

If you wish to talk about terrorism or how societies respond to it, please do. To start talking about a group of Moroccan-Dutch rioters as the beginning of the end of Dutch society seems more than a bit hysterical.

At least you still seem to be aware of how deluded the idea of ‘Eurabia’ is – unless those Islamic women, all 2.5% of them (again being generous) find a way to speed up their births to take less than 9 months.

Pointing out how ugly things have been in Europe, and how ugly they can get again, seems almost a waste of time for an American.

Quite honestly, I would think the death of innocent people would be the central point in discussing terrorism – for example, how 8,000 Islamic men and children were murdered by apparently god-fearing Orthodox Christians, under the eyes of a Dutch military unit that was supposed to protect them. Though that was so last century.

But I guess that isn’t terrorism, since in this case, it was the Muslims that were dying.

Except they weren’t Muslims or Christians, they were just people, some dying, some doing the killing. The categories tend to be added on afterwards, as justification or explanation.

As an aside to trailing wife (an interesting name – do you trail your husband for biblical reasons?) – Germans know all about walling people off, depriving them of contact with the outside through the use of guards with guns, until a final decision is made what to do with them. Though admittedly, the Germans were not following any biblical rules when deciding what land they wanted to take – they just took it, without bothering to fill out any paperwork making it ‘legal.’ As for Sharon – maybe you should read about the Kahan Commission ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahan_Commission ), carried out by the government of Israel to detail ‘facts and factors connected with the atrocity carried out by a unit of the Lebanese Forces against the civilian population in the Shatilla and Sabra camps.’ It concluded, according to the article, ‘Defence Minister, Ariel Sharon, was found to be personally responsible. Sharon’s negligence (that is, complacency not complicity, the Commission maintained) amounted to a non-fulfillment of a duty with which the Defense Minister was charged, and it was recommended that Sharon be dismissed as Defence Minister, which he was.’ Where Nazis used the defense that they killed innocent people because they had orders to follow, Sharon had a better defense – he simply didn’t do his job, and the death of refugees – from an Israeli invasion – was just one of those things. You know, break a few eggs, omelette, etc.