gavroche :
“The funniest part is when Mr. spencer calls for everyone to unite against Jihadists including..secular Muslims.
But anyone who reads JW knows that one of the main assertions there is that such people do not exist (apart from agressively anti-islamic apostates like Ali Sina)
Anyone who’s been reading Hugh Fitzgerald will tell you that 1) these people do not exist and 2) if they do exist there’s no way to tell if they’re lying or not (taqqiya nonsense) 3) even if they’re not lying there’s no way to be sure they wont become Jihadists over night 4) and in the unlikely chance that they are in fact the real deal, there’s no guarantee that their children will follow suit.”
So if he had said there are no secular muslims he would have been a racist,bigot and islamophobe.But since he included secular muslims,which he believes do exist,he is still held to the fire?
Some replies to your points in my own opinion.
1)Whether or not secular muslims exist.They do exist but they are pretty silent and the threat of death and the acts of murder carried out against them is pretty afective in keeping it that way.
2) Taqiya.Muslims are raised to emulate muhammad.Lieing to further islam or to protect muslims in a time of war was okayed by muhammad.I don’t worry so much about the lieing as enemies will lie to one another i would rather focus on the fact that islam is commited to ever lasting war until the world is won.Taqiya is a fact.
3) Even if they aren’t lieing then there is no way to be sure they won’t become jihadists over night.
The more propaganda islam spews the more radicl “normal “muslims become.Add that radicalization with what they are taught from birth ,to hate and to kill and to kill themselves,it’s not a far jaunt.Over night ,a day a week or month.
4) If there are secular muslims theres no guarantee that thier children will follow suit.
There is a chance they won’t follow suit when the incitement runs ramapnt in thier mosques and schools.These schools funded by the governments where terrorism is vibrant.
If the western education is to be taylored to fit immigrants as to not offend them then we not only deprive our own children of a correct and awakening history then we fail those who should be made to see the errors of thier nations ways as well as thier positive.
People are so stuck on what the west has or is doing wrong that nobody is looking at what the islamic world is doing.
The west has never claimed to not have errored.But islam is forever waving and pointing the finger.
Like i have said many times you can self loath all you want but don’t try to bring others who have faught thier way out of that hooey down that path with you.
I will also add that you disgrace yourself and lose points on your character for denouncing ex muslims.These people who lived islam first hand.These people who offer an insight into what all others are trying like hell to discover…what is the problem.
People somehow manage to shrug off the sentence of death for leaving islam,ensuring it remains over a billion strong,which it isn’t.People gloss over the fact that islam rages at the west about it’s slavery history while jedi mind tricking them away from the very chains of slaves they hold in thier hands.
Islam runs around hollering innocent people are being killed and nobody stops to ask what thier definition of innocent people are.It’s muslims and muslims only,thats thier definition.
There are practicing muslims who say out loud that if the U.S. was smart they would ask every single muslim to leave,even himself.
It’s time to start asking questions about islam.Ask them about that which sustains them,what is the air they breathe?
Lets put on our protective gear and get our fire extenguishers out and start asking questions of islam.
To question it is to be seen as insulting it.Are we forever to be doomed to not ask about it or are we just supposed to quietly go into the night and wake up tomorrow with our hands tied.
Pick your topic,religion,politics or everyday life,its all islam all the time.
I look around and see the non religious people who have only the agenda of getting rid of religion all together.Thank America for that right to do so.
i will restate that Chrtianity hasn’t been steering the American ship for quite some time ,but islam HAS been steering the islamic pirate ship for centuries.
What do we teach our children and what do they teach thiers.
It’s really simple.Lets just all get real.
