Danny:
“prewall lots of suicide attacks, postwall next to none, seems pretty compelling evidence to me.”
People can climb over the wall, Danny. You can take a ladder and climb the wall , Danny. There are thousands of Palesinians arrested in Israel looking for work, Danny. They get there by climbing the wall, Danny. There are dozens of photos like the one I showed you of people climbing the wall, Danny. Please, oh God, tell me how this wall can stop suicide bombers but cannot stop thousands of Palestinians looking for work. Do suicide bombers not know how to use ladders?
(viewfromafar: Is there a “right” and “wrong” answer to the question of whether or not the wall stops suicide bombers? Has Danny provided enough evidence with his second grade logic for me to ignore years of research from a University of Chicago professor? Work that is supported by others, including researchers at the University of Tel Aviv? There are right and wrong answers. Pape and others use sound research to arrive at similar conclusions, and look how far people like Danny can go to ignore it. Look at his logic. It’s amazing. This is why I post here.)
Danny, suicide bombing is a tactic. There are times where a tactic might be advantageous to use, and other times where it is not. Nearly all suicide bombings are part of campaigns. They are not events distributed randomly throuh time. The first suicide bombings in Israel, in 1994, were a response to the Golstein massacre of 29 Muslims in a mosque. After 27 years of occupation, Israel had escalated their immorality to the point where they were simply walking into mosques and shooting Palestinians. The IDF allowed this to happen. This was a breaking point, and Hamas promised 5 suicide attacks in return. This is why suicide attacks by Hamas started. There was a 40 day mourning period, and the 5 attacks started on the 41st day. Three attacks occured, and at that point Israel started a withdrawal that was supposed to happen years earlier. Because Israel reacted to the Hamas attacks by doing something positive, Hamas ceased their campaign, and only 3 attacks occured. Suicide bombing is a technique. When it produced positive results, it ceased. It started again when Hamas decided it would be advantageous.
