When In Doubt, Slam Israel
For the Islamic despotisms of the Middle East, it’s an old rule of thumb. When things get tough, or confusing, or frustrating, or when you simply want to deflect anger in the direction of a communal scapegoat, go on the offensive and blame the Jews.
In the United Nations Assembly, where the 56 states of the Organization of the Islamic Conference pay a pittance of the dues but hog a plethora of the policy, it’s standard practice. Gang up on Israel. At the UN Human Rights Council, it appears to be mandatory for the majority of members. Bypass such gross violators of human rights as Cuba and Zimbabwe, gloss over the provocations of such terrorist outfits as Hamas and Hezbollah, and, as UN Watch’s Hillel Neuer testified recently to Congress, devote 70% of the resolutions to condemning Israel.
Now we come to a moment in which the Middle East is in turmoil. Protests began in Tunisia, ousted the aging dictator, spread to Egypt and ousted another aging dictator. In Yemen, Jordan, Bahrain, Algeria, Iran and Libya, across a spectrum of polities that range from autocracy to some of the world’s most brutal despotisms, people are rising up. What better time for the despots of the Middle East to push to the fore a Palestinian campaign for the UN Security Council to — you guessed it — slam Israel.
What’s different is that this time, the U.S. administration, perhaps suffering its own doubts and frustrations over what to do in the Middle East, is reportedly about to join the lynching party. The Palestinians, while refusing to engage in good faith in negotiations with Israel, have been pushing for a Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlements as illegal. This has been brewing for a while, but the Security Council member-state of Lebanon (where Iranian-backed Hezbollah has been consolidating control) now deems it urgent business — so urgent that a vote might come in the next day or two. (The Security Council is chaired this month by Brazil; you remember Brazil — the country whose president turned up in Tehran last May, hand-in-hand with the prime minister of Turkey and Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, exulting over a sham deal for an Iranian nuclear climbdown).
It seems the Obama administration doesn’t want to vote for this resolution. But neither does the U.S. administration want to upset the Security Council by actually wielding its veto for the first time since President Obama took office. Apparently the world’s former superpower would no longer dare to defy a group that includes the likes of Russia, China, Lebanon, and, of course, Gabon, Portugal and Bosnia and Herzegovina. So, according to a Foreign Policy report by Colum Lynch, the Obama administration has been haggling behind the scenes — not to use America’s clout to persuade the Security Council members to drop the entire thing, but to hash out with Arab regimes a Security Council “statement” that attacks Israel.
Israel, a democratic ally of the U.S., is right now quite beleaguered enough. Iran’s regime, while pursuing nuclear weapons and bloodying internal dissent, proposes to wipe Israel off the map . Iran’s terrorist clients stand ready to help, including Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah again stockpiling missiles under the gaze of UN peacekeepers in Lebanon. Egypt’s Lotus Revolution may hold great promise, but Egypt’s future — jihad-dedicated Muslim Brotherhood and all — is still in play. This is a volatile moment in the Middle East. So what is the U.S. doing to clarify its policies and priorities? In the diplomatic back rooms of Washington and the UN, U.S. appeasement may be playing right now as a delicate balancing act; an attempt to cope with the pressures of a Middle East in tumult. But it boils down to the Obama administration embracing the same ugly policy as Middle East despots: when the going gets tricky, never mind the real problems and the real dangers. Go along with the free-riders of the Security Council, placate Nigeria, bow to Russia and China, follow the lead of Lebanon — and slam Israel. Is that really what Americans want?
Claudia, there is no “behind the scenes” interpretation necessary.
It has been carved into the tree on the front lawn on Pennsylvania Avenue from the day he told Bibi to eat his dinner alone. The day he put Robert Malley in charge of the Mideast policy.
It has been carved in wood and stone and granite.
Dances With Words loves Thugs With a Fist.
To add to your erudite list of writings on the wall, let us NOT forget the shoes on the desk, soles in the air, while speaking to Israel’s PM.Hmmm….
Recall, NO picture escapes the WH without WH approval.Second, NO place in the world is more in tune with symbolism than the Middle East.
Therefore, we must assume that even the not so smartie Obama knew what he was signaling, and the terror thugs took notice.
Therefore, IF Israel’s leaders have any sense left in their appeasement oriented heads they will make sure to play the SAME double game that Washington is playing.Use them when it suits, then throw them under the bus when necessary.
Turnabout IS fair play, especially when the long knives are out!!
Israel can create much mischief in the region, it may be time to whisper sweet nothings in Obama’s (jug)ears.
Dances with Words. Good one!
Israel is a democratic ally of the US, but is the US an ally of Israel? One can’t say that Obama acts like an ally.
Israel is by FAR the worst ally we have ever had.
It’s an open secret within the CIA and State Dept. that Israel conducts regular and numerous spy operations within the USA. Their goal is to collect classified industrial, technical, and military secrets.
Numerous Israeli agents have been caught spying for Israel.
The FBI has published reports of Mossad agents misrepresenting themselves as CIA spies in the Middle East, in order to undermine American efforts there.
Israel takes billions in welfare and “aid” from American taxpayers but gives nothing back.
In fact, I’m having a difficult time imagining any benefit that the USA receives from our “alliance” with Israel.
Yes, Israel is the worst one. Much worse than Jordan, Egypt or Saudi Arabia. surely worse than France – I mean, the French are known for helping US.
SO you would rather have China hacking US networks and its allies instead?Which they are doing BTW-
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2011/02/16/pol-weston-hacking.html
Of course it could be an attack that proxied through China, but that just reveals china’s insecure networks also doesnt eh?
So far Israel hasnt threatened my life as a jew.Iran has.Hezbollah has.Hamas has.Syria has.
Futhermore a cornerstone of liberal democracies is economic success and expansion of its citizens and friends of said nation.The Americans dont have this problem since many just come north at will and follow our laws and pay their dues properly.
The same can offered to the Palistinians if they can just get over hate the jew garbage they contiue to spout from their cesspool of leaders in Gaza.
” In fact, I’m having a difficult time imagining any benefit that the USA receives from our “alliance” with Israel. ”
Truly surprising since your comments are the result of a very fertile imagination.
Any trip to the library would overturn your fantasies. It also might inform you of the many benefits the Israel/USA alliance has reaped for America.
My two favorites are Israel supplying the USA with the first intact Soviet MIg ever captured when US pilots were flying against them thus helping win the Cold War and , of course, the Israeli attack on Saddams nuclear reactor. Ten years later the USA would have troops fighting in Iraq. A nuclear weapon in Saddams hand might have changed the outcome and threatened the US homeland.
Get a library card.
As long as we’re talking about ancient history, let’s talk about Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty.
I think that cancels out the benefits of a captured MiG, wouldn’t you say?
“Friendly Fire” incidents in the fog of war are a tragedy when they occur, but your twisted insinuation of an intentional attack makes no sense.
Israel had no motive to attack a battleship of their only ally in the world, the USA, 44 years ago in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Egyptian Sinai during the Six-Day War that Israel won against the combined forces of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Sudan, and the PLO.
Your historical outrage would be better directed at those who committed, supported, and applauded the clearly intentional and much more recent attack on the USS Cole, but we all know why it’s not.
The Israelis provided the tapes of the pilots’ talk back with their controller which indicated that the unidentified freighter unexpected in the war zone was one of mistaken identity and then identified only after it broke its silence.
Once again a CIA botch up.
By the way what about all those FBI and CIA turncoats who sold out to the Soviets?
Oh for heaven’s sake, you’re quoting from the I Hate Israel Handbook. Do you people get this garbage implanted in you at birth?
We get it. You hate Jews, you hate Israel. So what are you doing using a computer, much of which was developed by Israeli geeks?
If you hate Israel so much, go back to using grunts like all the other Neanderthals and leave us civilised types to advance at our leisure.
Israel takes billions in welfare and “aid” from American taxpayers but gives nothing back.
This takes the cake for absolute ignorance.
The billions that Intel, Microsoft, IBM, HP etc., have made out of the R&D done in Israel that has benefited and enriched the US.
The agricultural research that has benefited the American taxpayer and the medical research keeping his veins open to be able to write rubbish.
How many of your Silicon V. companies are founded on Israeli startups?
Back around 2005 the State of Virginia was in Israel looking for Israeli bio startups, 5 actually, to make home there.
As for all the political and strategic support the Israelis provided the US during the years of the Cold War with the communists I suppose could have been provided from the profits selling tomatoes and oranges.
The essential problem with Israel is that it is a vibrant Western society in a desert of dysfunctional cultures and countries. I really doubt that Israel would be so hated if the average standard of living there wasn’t any better than in Egypt or Syria. It is a standing example that illustrates the deficiencies, cultural and economic, of its neighbors.
And to the Left, there is nothing more repulsive that inequality of result when it comes to cultural differences.
When I close my eyes and listen to President Obama I think he sounds like Jimmy Carter.
Carter was a secret progressive fruitcake with a tiny organization of school chums from Georgia.
Obama is hard-core marxist backed by an international mixture of one-worlders, ex-communists, Islamists, feudalists and plain-old criminals with trillions of dollars to spend to create eternal fiefdoms or themselves.
It’s night and day.
Take Carter’s idiotic mistakes and multiply them by ten thousand.
Carter, dumb. Dumbo, evil.
This is just another instance of Obama’s shaming… er, excuse me, transforming… America.
TO: Claudia Rosett
RE: Wrong!!!!
What does the U.S. do? Join with the weakening despots in slamming the only democracy in the region. — Claudia Rosett
Obama the self-identified Muslim, is just joining in the ‘fray’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. If you doubt my assertion of Obama’s ‘belief’, I recomment you consider his:
[1] 20 years of listening to his religious mentor, the ‘good’ reverend Wright calling down curses from God on America.
[2] His on-air confession of his “muslim faith” with Stephanopolis.
[3] His bowing to the Sheik of Araby.
[The Truth will out....no matter how 'dense' the others are....]
Don’t forget the “evening call to prayer is the most beautiful sound I’ve heard” gaff.
When I lived on a kibbutz in central Israel, there was a prison called Shaata that held murderers and terrorists about 5 minutes down the road. I used to hear the muezzin calling the inmates to prayer and it sent shivers down my spine. I used to cover my ears when it came on. Even as a teenager, I thought it sounded like the devil calling his servants to gather round.
Powerful. From one who has been there.
Hear, hear, my feelings exactly!
That strange sound really makes me think it`s from satan himself! I hate it!
I`m glad I`m not the only one to think that!
When I first saw a documentary TV presentation many years ago way before 9/11
when nobody had heard of Osama Bin Laden I saw his face and a chill went up my spine and a cloud of fear came over me!
It was like a warning of bad events to come!!
Another WTF moment: Throughout the campaign, Obama loved to talk about rising at 4 or 5am every morning to study under his mother’s tough supervision.
What else happens at that time every morning? The morning call to prayer …
I think “the most beautiful sound I would LIKE to hear” would be “Onward Christian Soldiers’” at massive rallies across America. Maybe ‘Glory Glory Hallelujah–His Truth Is Marching On.’
Yes this move is appalling. But it is more than just an assault on Israel. It is a dumb, amateurish, foreign policy disaster. Why? Simple For better or worse, the US is perceived as a ‘friend’ of Israel. Well, here is the US, a so-called friend, stabbing the Israelis in the back. So how is this going to be perceived amongst the family of nations? Simple. It will degrade the concept of US friendship to the point of meaninglessness. How do these administration idiots think they will ever convince anyone to take a risk in exchange for US friendship when it means so little?
This idiot move will cripple American diplomacy for a generation.
People who crave power need demons, domestic and foreign. You can’t have a revolution if there isn’t anything to revolt against.
Domestically, it’s easy. The list of demons is extensive: business, white men, conservatives, heterosexuals, entrepreneurs, Christians, many more. Essentially, any group that is successful and that has a firm belief system.
For foreign affairs, the pattern is the same. The west, brittania, and above all Israel. Successful, wealthy, secure belief systems. They stand in the way of total power, so they have to be demonized, turned into satan himself, crushed, dispersed.
Little lenin’s administration is the most anti-semitic in US history. All of his hatreds are reflected by his minions. And he hates any group that is successful. But I don’t think Israel should feel singled out. They are just another successful enterprise that must be brought to its knees to secure the way for the new feudal empire.
It’s going to take a long long time in the US and the world to rid the country of this vile strain of haters. The administration is empowering the haters like none ever has, and they are going to be around long after little lenin is a footnote.
” But I don’t think Israel should feel singled out. They are just another successful enterprise that must be brought to its knees to secure the way for the new feudal empire. ”
BINGO!
Things are getting interesting in the Middle East, too interesting. It seems that we are all holding our breath while waiting to see what comes next. Yesterday, the oil pipeline coming through Jordan to Israel was blown up, the government responding by correcting the situation. They turned off the pipeline all together. The Jordanian Minister of Defense has deemed Israel an aggressor nation. In the mean time, two Iranian warships are heading toward the Suez Canal with intention to head to Syria. Both actions by both countries can be deemed an act of war.
As for Obama, I doubt seriously that he would come to the aid of Israel if it got into trouble. If he did, it would be very slow in coming and very meager. He would much rather pal around with his Islamic buddies. After all they are not a threat to him, Israel is.
I was wondering just how much damage could be inflicted on this nation and the world in the two years Obama still has in power. I don’t doubt that he knows fully well that he will not be re-elected. In the mean time, as the leader of the free world, he refuses to act on behalf of the free world. The only rumblings of keeping the world free are coming from the likes of Sarkosy and Merkle. While the world is teetering, he is busy making speeches that do nothing and are at best hollow statements. All his actions seem bent on making this nation a second rate power. We are already getting a real taste of what that will mean on the world setting. Governments of friendly nations will topple. Islamic fundamentalism will take over nations such as Turkey, and now maybe Egypt. We will have little or no sway in world matters.
I could go on and on, nothing will help. Two more years, two more bloody years…………
hello. all these years of $billions, ..of American tax dollars funneled into Israel, and nobody has bothered to dig deep underground post-nuclear habitats? how many threats does the world have to suffer, before the wackos with the power do something other than talk? have all sides lost credibility, each trying to out-blackmail the other? is it all now just about the money? why should we bankroll any more of this childish lunacy? we give the wackos the power to fight, and they just want more money. we support the opposition, and they just want more money. only Americans have to work for money, and our government wants all of it to give to lunatics so they will not fight. cut off the money. pull up a chair. turn on CNN. let the fighting begin.
It was bad enough when Obama reneged on the Bush-Sharon understandings – suggesting that agreements reached with one President might be deemed non-binding by a successor. Now the question being asked overseas is, if the US won’t stand behind Israel, who *will* it stand behind? These actions do great damage to US influence and credibility.
Obama is selling out US values and interests, all in the name of preserving his precious “outreach” to the Muslim world (which thus far has earned us nothing but contempt), and advance what he deems the “fierce moral urgency” of creating a Palestinian state. All else, apparently, is of secondary importance. Yet what he’s doing is nothing short of making war *more* likely.
Claudia,
Your piece is a distraction from the central issues:
– Israel has taken lands that do not belong to it
– The means, i.e., military force, upon which it has attempted to acquire these lands are illegal under all international law
– In its blatant ‘land grab’, Israel obviously wants the land, but not the indigenous people who inhabit it else a larger Israel (subsequent to illegally annexing the Occupied Territories) would lose its ‘Jewishness’. It is thus engaging in various forms of apartheid in an attempt to make life unbearable for the indigenous people in hope that this will lead them to flee, just as most of them fled from current Israel proper in ’48. This apartheid treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis has been documented exhaustively by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and virtually all large independent human rights groups.
All of these points are unrefutable, yet you and our side attack anyone who criticizes Israel for these deplorable tactics as unfairly bashing Israel. Or trying to point to what the other bad kid in class has done. It does not change that what Israel is doing is incredibly wrong. And why should they be called out on it above anyone else?
– Because it has gone on far longer than any other conflict you cite
– Its ramifications and ripple effect to other countries, economies, and yes, terrorism, are magnitudes greater than any other conflict you cite
– These atrocities have only been possible via U.S. backing, i.e., the support of the most powerful U.N. Security Council member
So please stick to the real issue, and the facts, which would also include these…
1) From 1970 to 2000, Israel received both more direct U.S. aide, and indirect U.S. aide (forgiven loans, tax exempt donation status), than all other countries combined!
2) Over the past 60 years, the U.S. has exercised more U.N. Security Council Vetos than any other member: over half of these votes have been on behalf/defending Israel.
3) Pg. 147 of the 9/11 Commission Report states, from the mouth of terrorist M. Khalid himself, that the number one reason for the 9/11 attack on the U.S. was it unilateral support of Israel over and against the Palestinians.
Given this, we as Americans have every right to hold Israel to a higher standard. They are the single biggest liability and obstacle we as Americans have to establishing a peaceful and prosperous relationship with the ME, and this is quite easy to see. So rather than distract, what I simply want to know is whether your allegiance is to the U.S. or Israel? The countries are not one in the same and neither are their objectives.
“Israel has taken lands that do not belong to it”
What’s the basis for this assertion?
“– The means, i.e., military force, upon which it has attempted to acquire these lands are illegal under all international law”
Firstly, you need to prove that Judea and Samaria does not belong to Israel. For example, does California belong to US? Does Kaliningrad belong to Russia? Can you use same standard and show how any land “belongs” to anyone?
“– In its blatant ‘land grab’, Israel obviously wants the land, but not the indigenous people who inhabit it ”
Jews are the indigenous people. That’s why UN called it “Judea and Samaria”.
The disputed lands Israel has/is taking are the West Bank and East Jerusalem. These lands do not belong to Israel and have not for *at least* 2,000 years, if ever. The U.N., which in effect created Israel, has never recognized Israeli borders to include East Jerusalem and the West Bank. This is why numerous formal resolutions, such as U.N. Resolution 242, exist specifically on this subject.
It is a fact that these territories are ILLEGALLY Occupied. End of story. They were taken by force in ’67 which is illegal under international law, where Israel states that it was defending itself preemptively; I actually do believe Israel believed it was going to be attacked then, but the fact is that it attacked first (those darn facts really keep getting in the way, don’t they Hyphen) …and it also bombed the U.S. Navy intelligence vessel, U.S.S. Liberty, taking it out completely, killing many Americans, all on a clear day when the ship had no armament — it was however capable of listening and documenting the sequence of events prior to being bombed by Israeli aircraft; again this is fact.
Actually, the Jews are and were not the indigenous people of the land. Read the Torah, it clearly speaks of a people already inhabiting the territory (Philistines) before the first Jew arrived from Egypt (i.e., Moses). But regardless, that was thousands of years ago. More importantly, for the last two thousand years the lands were almost completely Palestinian (Christian and Muslim (post 700 A.D.), but always Arab), along with the Crusaders for a few hundred years in the middle ages. At the turn of the 20th century, approximately 3% of this entire Israeli territory was Jewish (see Justin McCarthy, neither an Arab nor a Zionist but an American Phd who has produced academically respected census work on the subject).
But Israel is now a Jewish state, and I don’t think that needs to be debated. I agree Israel needs formal recognition from its neighbors, but it also needs to allow a “Right of Return” for the indigenous Palestinians it expelled from their homes in ’48: the comparison to Native Americans is exactly correct, but we give Native Americans reservations and reparations for stealing their land, we didn’t force them into Mexico or Canada and refuse them the right to return back to their homes.
So to answer your question, the Occupied Territories do not belong to Israel, they have not in at least 2,000 years, they are overwhelmingly populated by indigenous Arabs just as they always have been; Israel’s occupation is illegal and they need to leave the land and cease apartheid tactics against these people. FYI… I’m not a Liberal, I’m a conservative American whose loyalties lie with the U.S., and the U.S. alone.
Actually, Jews were driven from the land. Maintaining an identity (which was thought a crime by your ancestors who murdered mine regularly in Europe and elsewhere), our relatives, some of them, returned home. The ‘indigenous’ Arabs were always startlingly light in population. Many of them were not Arabs at all, but were routinely imported by various rulers of ‘Palestine’ to create some kind of economic base. These people came from Algeria and the Balkans, from Syria and Arabia, even from Greece. A significant minority of what became Palestinian Arabs at one time were, ironically, Greek Christians fleeing the Turks in the early 1800s.
Your history is amazingly distorted. The description of an academic as ‘neither an Arab nor a Zionist’ gives away the game. Many ‘Zionists’ are and have been remarkably critical of Israel from many viewpoints, including on treatment of Arabs. But this just shows that you do not understand Jews well.
Regarding the Indians, your comments are again off-base. You ‘gave them’ reservations? They were shunted onto reservations time and time again after signing treaties with the US. In nearly every case, the US violated the treaty because of pressures deriving from the desire of masses to move West. And so they did, and Indians were pushed off ‘reservation’ after reservation. In the end, except for the Navajos and Sioux, nearly all were decimated in terms of population and preservation of original lands. The US was never going to coexist with ‘Indian nationalism.’ An important side-note being that – unlike Arabs – many Indians viewed the world from an aboriginal viewpoint and saw the land as belonging to no human group. At least, they did not have a modern concept of sovereignty. This made them malleable and this the ‘white man’ exploited happily. True, some of the late-era survivors are doing well from casinos, but they won’t be given America back. The idea that this sovereignty has any meaning is belied by the fact that American culture and flag surround these ‘casino reservations’ from every side.
‘Apartheid’ is a slick word to describe essentially defensive, hesitant moves into very small (by US standards) empty spaces in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. After Sharon expelled 9000 Israelis from beautiful farms and villages in mostly the southern part of Gaza (in which no Arabs had lived previously), the Hamas took over and destroyed any chance of a civil Arab society or coexistence with Israel. Adding to the withdrawal from Sinai – made into a 100% withdrawal in part because of brutal American pressure on Begin – Israel has withdrawn from over 80% of the land taken in the 1967 war.
It is never enough for some folks, and you are one. Luckily for us, there are many with common sense and appreciation for what Jews have endured in history. As for the ‘right of return’ – a ‘right’ only drummed up by the Pal Arabs and only endorsed by the Arabized/Muslimized/USSR (for years)-dominated GA – forget it.
“Actually, Jews were driven from the land.”
Yes, 2,000 years ago! And Arabs were there first — your holiest book the Torah says so explicitly. And as I said previously, that is not that pertinent anyway… religious zealots aside, it’s more of a pissing contest. What does matter is that the Arab Palestinians have been the ones there for thousand of years, not the Jews. And it is the Arab Palestinians who have been displaced both by the creation of Israel on land they lived on, and more recently in the illegally Occupied Territories which Israel is trying to annex.
“The ‘indigenous’ Arabs were always startlingly light in population.”
This is the same fabricated Joan Peters argument that Zionists have fabricated and tried to purport as truthful for decades, but it is just that… fabricated. Show me one legitimate, objective, scholarly source that
states this. It is an inconvenient truth, but the Arabs were there first and they have been there for centuries. It has been there home and Israelis have been stealing it from them… not just with force, but by attempting to rewrite history as you are here.
“Many of them were not Arabs at all, but were routinely imported by various rulers of ‘Palestine’ to create some kind of economic base. These people came from Algeria and the Balkans, from Syria and Arabia, even from Greece. A significant minority of what became Palestinian Arabs at one time were, ironically, Greek Christians fleeing the Turks in the early 1800s.”
Where is the supporting reference for this fantasy? Even if it were true, which I don’t believe it is else I’d have seen it previously, it doesn’t answer the issue that Israelis have displaced people from their land and homes. It is especially ironic that you keep pushing on this issue given that the majority of Israel is Ashkenazi, for which there is zero empirical anthropological evidence that Ashkenazis lived in Israel in any substantial number prior to 1880. Again, I think this is a distraction, but history and facts continue to make your case that much thinner.
“Your history is amazingly distorted. The description of an academic as ‘neither an Arab nor a Zionist’ gives away the game.”
On the contrary. Zionist is a real word, with very real meaning. My using it appropriately to describe sources is completely legitimate. You instead cry anti-semitism at the mere use of the word… a word which is the foundation of the State of Israel.
“Many ‘Zionists’ are and have been remarkably critical of Israel from many viewpoints, including on treatment of Arabs. But this just shows that you do not understand Jews well.”
It’s incredibly ironic that you state my use of the word Zionism “gives away the game”, and that I don’t “understand Jews well”, when in fact I use the word exactly because Zionists overwhelmingly tend to write from a ridiculously, un-credible bias. There are exceptions. I’ve read several books by Benny Morris, a fairly ardent and confirmed Zionist, who acknowledges not just the atrocities committed against Arabs but also the true history of the region and the true motivation in the Occupied Territories being a ‘land grab.’ In fact, if more Zionists could be this honest I think the situation would have been resolved by now.
Yet I would correctly use the word Zionist, and not Israeli or Jewish, as numerous Israelis (e.g., Ilan Pape) or Jews are not Zionists by its strict definition. Likewise, many Zionists are neither Jewish or Israeli.
“Regarding the Indians, your comments are again off-base. You ‘gave them’ reservations? They were shunted onto reservations time and time again after signing treaties with the US. In nearly every case, the US violated the treaty because of pressures deriving from the desire of masses to move West. And so they did, and Indians were pushed off ‘reservation’ after reservation. In the end, except for the Navajos and Sioux, nearly all were decimated in terms of population and preservation of original lands. The US was never going to coexist with ‘Indian nationalism.’ An important side-note being that – unlike Arabs – many Indians viewed the world from an aboriginal viewpoint and saw the land as belonging to no human group. At least, they did not have a modern concept of sovereignty. This made them malleable and this the ‘white man’ exploited happily. True, some of the late-era survivors are doing well from casinos, but they won’t be given America back. The idea that this sovereignty has any meaning is belied by the fact that American culture and flag surround these ‘casino reservations’ from every side.”
Exactly. But today they are given reparations in numerous forms. The indigenous Arabs in the Occupied Territories do not have the right to vote in Israeli general elections but have been under illegal occupation for over forty years. They do not have access to clean water when their neighbors (Jewish settlers yards away) have access not only to clean water, but swimming pools. These same Arabs are unilaterally denied building permits, their houses are bull dozed, yet Jewish settlers are not only given building permits but are often given housing paid for by the State of Israel… all on land that does not legally belong to Israel!! This is not a slick word, it is apartheid and numerous internationally respected human rights groups have recognized it as so.
“It is never enough for some folks, and you are one. Luckily for us, there are many with common sense and appreciation for what Jews have endured in history. As for the ‘right of return’ – a ‘right’ only drummed up by the Pal Arabs and only endorsed by the Arabized/Muslimized/USSR (for years)-dominated GA – forget it.”
So because of the atrocities endured by the Jews throughout history, which I of course recognize fully, you believe it acceptable that Palestinian Arabs (those who stayed in their homes) have been forced to live in a religiously Jewish state, and those who fled into the West Bank (or were already there) should be placed under a form of apartheid with their homes destroyed, denied clean water, the oppression of curfews and check points that strangle any chance of economic viability, to the point of regular brutality by an occupying military force.
So Jews deserve a sanctuary after centuries of oppression, but indigenous Arabs, who had nothing to do with this oppression of Jews, are not allowed to return to the homes and land they lived in for thousands of years? That makes sense.
The greatest irony, of which there are so many here, is what would you like to do with the West Bank and East Jerusalem? If they are annexed completely to Israel, the Arab populace in this region, combined with the indigenous Arabs in current Israel, would have such a large combined vote in this ‘greater Israel’ that it would challenge the Jewishness of the state. Are you just going to keep expelling this people further and further into the desert? That is most clearly the Likud agenda, and they are using apartheid to accomplish it.
I do believe the Jews needed a homeland; I think it should have been somewhere that was not already populated despite the historical significance of Israel to the Jews, but it’s too late for that. The reality is that it was placed in current Israel and everyone now has to make the best of it. But it is insane to think Israel is justified in its illegal occupation, apartheid subjugation and ‘land grab’ of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Thank God for the U.N. and the international community who have some respect for human rights, decency, and an intolerance for oppression. Those are the same values my country has fought for and what makes me proud to be an American.
And as I’ve said in several posts which no one had the courage to answer… is where to your loyalties lie? With the U.S. exclusively? I didn’t think so.
Jews were in the area and in Israel two thousand years before the first Muslim Arab lifted his head from the drool puddle that leaked from Mohammed’s face.
The town of Yathrib that Mohammed murdered into Medina was Jewish.
The Muslims poured out of Arabia and overran the entire Middle East and tried for hundreds of years to overtake Europe. Well, they succeeded in the 70s when the EU agreed to betray Israel and allow Europe to be overrun by Muslims for cheap oil and Muslim markets. They’re seeing now what it is to “live” with Muslims and will soon understand wqhgat it is to live as the Israelis do – with increasing danger and perversity. But that’s Islam and its disgusting fruit for you!
It’s too late to refute all your other points – I have seen all of your ravings duplicated on hundreds of antiSemitic leftist postings and can’t be bothered to respond to every “point” ie sneering lie.
A summary – you have no effing idea what you’re talking about and your offense as a tool (in every possible sense of the word) is to be a mindless antiJewish drone.
You’ll forgive my brusqueness – I’m sick of this antiIsrael mantra everywhere I go, it simply gives me the impression that life is wasted on leftists and Muslims.
I’m going to kick it all up a few notches, PC be damned. What do I have in common with Isralis? An immense respect for their intellect, grittiness, and courage in the face of insurmountable odds. When they became a nation post-WWII, they couldn’t possibly survive. But they did. “They did it because they didn’t know they couldn’t.” When they take land, it’s land the hate-filled Arabs have proven they will use as attack launching points. Believe me, they could have grabbed a lot more land if that was their intent.
What do I have in common with jabbering jihadists and anti-Semites? Nothing. Thank God.
Before I’m assailed by any “no facts, personal attacks” liberal reader for my typo, I know it’s “Israelis.” Hope you get the actual point.
I can recommend a great book that reveals exactly how the British executed their Mandate duty in Pelstine. The Rape of Palestine, 1938 by William B Ziff. (I got it on bookdepository.co.uk).
Excellent book, lots of detail. The British acted like the Nazis with the spiffy uniforms toward the Jews and gave all the resources, including the land – to the Arabs! Yes, those same Arabs that hated them! Oh that British judgement!
When you read it, you undertstand why they banned the book.
Thank you for your kind comment, I have family in israle and all of them are kind folk who work hard and mind their own business.
Let’s pretend now that Israel doesn’t exist and that land is called Palestine. Do you think that for one second that it would alter the current state that the US finds itself in with respect to the Moslem world? The Moslem Brotherhood which is the wellspring that Fundamentalist Islam was established by the 1920s with some of its founding people going back to the 1800′s (as early as 1870′s). Its goal then was the same as it is now…….a Moslem world. Israel is to the Moslem world what Jews were to the Germans. The Palestinian situation is a great talking point that they use to try to gain a moral high ground. That moral high ground is so totally flawed that they wind up talking in circles. What great injustice has Israel preformed against the Moslems? I’m sure that you can find some examples; but, the pale in comparison with the the injustices preformed by Moslems on each other. Ask the Israeli Moslems where they would rather live Israel or any other Moslem nation. They will pick Israel. If everything you say about the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians were true, their brothers the Israeli Moslems would be in open revolt.
HOW ISRAEL BENEFITS THE US:
The February 2010 visit to Israel by Admiral Mullen, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs-of-Staff, sheds light on the larger context of US-Israel relations, which transcends the Arab-Israeli conflict, leverages Israel’s unique capabilities, and benefits both the US and Israel. The visit reaffirms that US policy toward Israel is based, primarily, on regional and global strategic interests and not on domestic politics. US-Israel relations do not resemble a one-way-street (the US gives and Israel receives), but a mutually-beneficial two-way street.
Admiral Mullen’s visit to Israel centered on a series of aggravated mutual threats and on the implication of the expected US withdrawal from Iraq related to those threats: Iran’s nuclearization, global Islamic terrorism, domestic and regional war in Iraq, escalation of the ballistic threat, Iran’s subversion of the Gulf and the Middle East, al-Qaeda’s entrenchment in Yemen which controls key sea lanes for oil tankers, the war on the Saudi-Yemen border, the intensification of Iranian-Syrian cooperation, the enhanced Middle Eastern profile of Russia and China, Turkey Islamization, etc.
The evacuation of US forces from Iraq could trigger a political-military volcano, with boiling lava sweeping Saudi Arabia, the Gulf and Jordan, further deteriorating the region, highlighting Israel’s contribution to the national security of its most critical ally, the USA.
For example, in 2010, US special operations forces in Iraq and Afghanistan leverage Israeli battle tactics and 61 year counter-terrorism experience. US Marines benefit from the Israeli-developed “Pioneer” unmanned aerial vehicle, which provides intelligence otherwise unobtainable, preempting terrorists, thus saving many lives. A US special operations colonel told me – in the office of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid – that his battalion benefited in Iraq from Israel’s unique contribution in the areas of training, urban warfare, improvised explosive devices (IEDs), car bombs, booby-traps, suicide bombers, roadblocks and checkpoints, interrogation of terrorists and anti-tank missiles.
According to Brig. General Michael Vane, Deputy Chief of Staff at the US Army Training and Doctrine Command, the Israeli experience played a role in defeating terrorists in Iraq’s “Sunni Triangle.”
According to Senator Daniel Inouye, Chairman of the Appropriations Committee and its Subcommittee on Defense and a veteran of the Intelligence Committee, “Israel’s contribution to US military intelligence is greater than all NATO countries combined.”
In September 2007, Israel demolished a nuclear plant in Syria, thus dealing a blow to the anti-US Syria-Iran-North Korea axis, while upgrading the posture of deterrence and joint interests of the US and Israel.
‘Largest US aircraft carrier’
In 1982, Israel’s Air Force was the first ever to destroy a Soviet built surface-to-air network. Israel destroyed 23 of the most advanced Soviet surface-to-air missile batteries, employed by Syria and considered impregnable. Israel’s battle tactics and lessons, electronic warfare and other technological innovations were shared with the US, thus tilting the global balance of power in favor of the US.
In 1981, Israel devastated Iraq’s nuclear reactor, in defiance of brutal US and international pressure – including a military embargo – thus according the US the conventional option during the 1991 war against Iraq. It spared the US and the world a nuclear confrontation, along with its mega human losses and mega-billion dollar cost.
In 1970, a Soviet proxy, Syria, invaded a US ally, Jordan, aiming to topple the Hashemite regime and activate a pro-Soviet domino scenario into Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. US forces were overly-involved in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, but Israel mobilized its military, forcing a Syrian evacuation of Jordan, thus preventing a collapse of pro-US regimes, a setback to US national security, havoc in the Arab oil-producing countries and a blow to the US standard of living. Israel’s capability of snatching roasting chestnuts out of the fire – with no US involvement – transformed President Nixon into a supporter of enhanced US-Israel strategic cooperation, in spite of the fact that only 12% of US Jews voted for him, and irrespective of severe US-Israel disagreements over the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Former Secretary of State, General Alexander Haig, a former Supreme Commander of NATO, refers to Israel as “the largest, most battle-tested and cost-effective US aircraft carrier, which does not require a single US personnel, cannot be sunk and is located at a most critical area for US national security interests.”
If Israel did not exist in the eastern flank of the Mediterranean – adjacent to most critical oil resources and water lanes, in the intersection of Europe, Asia and Africa – the US would have to deploy a few aircraft carriers to the region, along with tens of thousands of military personnel, costing scores of billions of dollars annually and risking involvement in additional regional and international confrontations.
The Jewish State constitutes a battle-proven laboratory, which has improved thousands of US-made military systems and technologies, sharing with the US such improvements, thus enhancing the competitive edge of the US defense industries, expanding US employment and export base, upgrading US national security and saving many US lives and mega billion of dollars in terms of research and development cost. For instance, the current generation of the F-16 includes over 600 modifications introduced by Israel.
If there had been an Israel-like nation in the Persian Gulf, there would not be a need to dispatch hundreds of thousands of US military personnel to the region!
Israel as a Security Asset for the United States: Statement by 50 retired U.S. Flag & General Officers
In response to the recent ridiculous treatment Israel has gotten from the Obama administration, a group of about 50 retired United States generals and admirals put together the following letter urging him as well as Congress and the general American public to recognize how truly intertwined Israel’s success is with America’s. Here, is the unedited letter, directly from the officers:
Israel as a Security Asset for the United States
We, the undersigned, have traveled to Israel over the years with The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). We brought with us our decades of military experience and, following unrestricted access to Israel’s civilian and military leaders, came away with the unswerving belief that the security of the State of Israel is a matter of great importance to the United States and its policy in the Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean. A strong, secure Israel is an asset upon which American military planners and political leaders can rely. Israel is a democracy – a rare and precious commodity in the region – and Israel shares our commitment to freedom, personal liberty and rule of law.
Throughout our travels and our talks, the determination of Israelis to protect their country and to pursue a fair and workable peace with their neighbors was clearly articulated. Thus we view the current tension between the United States and Israel with dismay and grave concern that political differences may be allowed to outweigh our larger mutual interests.
As American defense professionals, we view events in the Middle East through the prism of American security interests.
The United States and Israel established security cooperation during the Cold War, and today the two countries face the common threat of terrorism by those who fear freedom and liberty. Historically close cooperation between the United States. and Israel at all levels including the IDF, military research and development, shared intelligence and bilateral military training exercises enhances the security of both countries. American police and law enforcement officials have reaped the benefit of close cooperation with Israeli professionals in the areas of domestic counter-terrorism practices and first response to terrorist attacks.
Israel and the United States are drawn together by shared values and shared threats to our well-being.
The proliferation of weapons and nuclear technology across the Middle East and Asia, and the ballistic missile technology to deliver systems across wide areas require cooperation in intelligence, technology and security policy. Terrorism, as well as the origins of financing, training and executing terrorist acts, need to be addressed multilaterally when possible. The dissemination of hatred and support of terrorism by violent extremists in the name of Islam, whether state or non-state actors, must be addressed as a threat to global peace.
In the Middle East, a volatile region so vital to U.S. interests, it would be foolish to disengage – or denigrate – an ally such as Israel.
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Lieutenant General Mark Anderson, USAF (ret.)
Rear Admiral Charles Beers, USN (ret.)
General William Begert, USAF (ret.)
Rear Admiral Stanley W. Bryant, USN (ret.)
Lieutenant General Anthony Burshnick, USAF (ret.)
Lieutenant General Paul Cerjan, USA (ret.)
Admiral Leon Edney, USN (ret.)
Brigadier General William F. Engel, USA (ret.)
Major General Bobby Floyd, USAF (ret.)
General John Foss, USA (ret.)
Major General Paul Fratarangelo, USMC (ret.)
Major General David Grange, USA (ret.)
Lieutenant General Tom Griffin, USA (ret.)
Lieutenant General Earl Hailston, USMC (ret.)
Lieutenant General John Hall, USAF (ret.)
General Alfred Hansen, USAF (ret.)
Rear Admiral James Hinkle, USN (ret.)
General Hal Hornburg, USAF (ret.)
Major General James T. Jackson, USA (ret.)
Admiral Jerome Johnson, USN (ret.)
Rear Admiral Herb Kaler, USN (ret.)
Vice Admiral Bernard Kauderer, USN (ret.)
General William F. Kernan, USA (ret.)
Major General Homer Long, USA (ret.)
Major General Jarvis Lynch, USMC (ret.)
General Robert Magnus, USMC (ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles May, Jr., USAF (ret.)
Vice Admiral Martin Mayer, USN (ret.)
Major General James McCombs, USA (ret.)
Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC (ret.)
Rear Admiral W. F. Merlin, USCG (ret.)
Rear Admiral Mark Milliken, USN (ret.)
Rear Admiral Riley Mixson, USN (ret.)
Major General William Moore, USA (ret.)
Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC (ret.)
Major General Larry T. Northington, USAF (ret.)
Lieutenant General Tad Oelstrom, USAF (ret.)
Major General James D. Parker, USA (ret.)
Vice Admiral J. T. Parker, USN (ret.)
Major General Robert Patterson, USAF (ret.)
Vice Admiral James Perkins, USN (ret.)
Rear Admiral Brian Peterman, USCG (ret.)
Lieutenant General Alan V. Rogers, USAF (ret.)
Rear Admiral Richard Rybacki, USCG (ret.)
General Crosbie Saint, USA (ret.)
Rear Admiral Norm Saunders, USCG (ret.)
General Lawrence Skantze, USAF (ret.)
Major General Sid Shachnow, USA (ret.)
Rear Admiral Jeremy Taylor, USN (ret.)
Major General Larry Taylor, USMCR (ret.)
Lieutenant General Lanny Trapp, USAF (ret.)
Vice Admiral Jerry O. Tuttle, USN (ret.)
General Louis Wagner, USA (ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas Wilson, USN (ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert Winglass, USMC (ret.)
Rear Admiral Guy Zeller, USN (ret.)www.jinsa.org
WARNING!! OBAMA PLANS TO SACRIFICE NOT ONLY ISRAEL BUT THE UNITED STATES AS WELL!
Thank you
We agree…
“Obama plans to sacrifice not only Israel,but the United States as well”..
We know this…but what do we do about this???
Americans tend to sit and do nothing until something hits their checkbook. Not much else gets them going. Voting…a right that was so hard fought for..brings out only a few of the registered voters..thus we get the politicians we have and the circumstances that are now putting our entire being in harms way
Somebody needs to inform these retired generals that the Cold War is over and Israel isn’t the only democracy in the Middle East.
“Somebody needs to inform these retired generals that the Cold War is over and Israel isn’t the only democracy in the Middle East.”
What’s the second one?
Turkey and Lebanon.
Besides, being a “democracy” isn’t a prerequisite for being a good ally. After all, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are America’s best friends in the area, and unlike our relationship with Israel, we actually get something in return.
i guess you havnt heard yet, so i should probably tell you that the lebanese government has collapsed. lebanon is now under the complete control of hezbollah, a terrorist organization whos stated goal is the murder of every jew on the planet. so no, its not really a democracy. israel is the western world’s shield against terrorism, islamism, and shariah law. it acts as a bulwark against the unleashed destructive force of global jihad. if israel falls, europe and US will experience a massive wave of terrorism, violence, and destruction for which it is completely unprepared. the US government knows this. america gives israel money to fight against global jihad so that america doesnt have to. israel gets its hands dirty so america doesnt have to. israelis die so americans dont have to. if you think afghanistan and iraq were a big deal, you dont even have a clue what the west will face without israel acting as a thorn in the side of the islamofascist terrorists.
and by the way, what do you think you “get” out of your relationship with saudi arabia? $100 a barrel oil? saudi arabia is a backwards hellhole, and all you “get” from your relationship with them is oil money going to fund terrorist organizations, hundreds of islamist indoctrination centers, hundreds of extremist mosques (including the ground zero mosque), etc. so if you had to choose between israel and saudi arabia, go ahead and pick saudi arabia. see what happens.
Great to see Michael Scheuer has found a new hobby – PJM.
You certtainly do! Enjoy that Saudi-financed jihad, moron!
Say, have you had to fly anywhere recently? Do you enjoy the TSA “touching your junk”? That came to you courtesy of Wahhabi terrorism; extra security in airposts, over 15000 acts of jihad, SO MUCH tax money given to Islamic front groups all over the USA, special conditions given to Muslims, all at your expense, rewriting histpry and traingin your kids to become apprentice Muslims, courtesy of your favourite allies the Saudis, their little friends the Muslims Brotherhood that has sworn to take over America..
Enjoy it, moron. Enjoy it so much as your streets become unsafe, your liberty withdrawn a little more every day. You’re already a mental slave to Jew hatred – soon your slavery to Islam will be complete.
Isn’t it odd how an alliance with Israel only leads to more communiocation software, but being buds with the Saudis just leads to moire universities being purchased for Islamic propaganda? Gee, WHAT could the difference be…?
Israel has become quite good a saving alot of people’s chestnuts ,even when some dont deserve it.Furthermore, Israel IS the only democracy in the Mid-east right now.Iraq is still a question mark.Just ask the Christians there.Im not holding my breath about the rest of the Mid-East.When Iran becomes a REAL democratic republic and sweeps away thecratic regimes forever ,then ill listen.
Its hypocritical of Leftists to claim we dont have to get along with someone who isnt a democracy.Its left wing BS that holds no water.Turkey and lebanon(hezbollah) still hates jews.Imagine such hatred of small minority of the world population going on for 3500 frackin years!Thats before Islam was even a religion for you lefty morons.
A very clear rendition of why the US NEEDS Israel.Moreover, I direct the readers to, ‘Start Up Nation’ by Senor and Singer.
They will find that without Israel’s capabilities their own lives would be a lot less comfortable, not to mention more endangered.
The next time someone whines about aid to Israel, they would do well to know that the US gets ten times more from Israel in precious intel AND technology, thus getting the much better end of the bargain.
Nevertheless,I can’t wait for the day when Israel stops receiving aid.The strings attached, the amount of money lost to Israel’s defense industry just ain’t worth it. It is a zero sum game for us.
Has anyone noticed that the calamitous and ever more precipitous decline of the former USA started when evil-eyed Rice started threatening Israel, withholding the precious jet fuel they needed to bring the 2006 Lebanon war to a successful completion? (but couldn’t).
Now with pharaoh in the white house and the army an army of Sodomites, it seems the USA has taken a step too far…
bye bye… it’s been a good run – and thanx 4 all the fish…
Israel was the Jewish homeland hundreds of years before Mohammed was born.
The modern borders of the Israel were created by the United Nations. The Jews did not steal anything. In fact the United Nations withheld the majority of the land intended for the Jews under the Balfour Declaration and gave it to the arabs-hence the indefensible borders. Those borders convinced the arabs who outnumbered the Jews by literally millions that they could win a quick war and massacre the inhabitants. The united Nations survey done at the time showed that there were many more Jews in the land at the time then there were arabs. This from an organization that has never been fair, let alone friendly, to the Jews. To their shock the arabs lost that war but their murderous behavior continues unabated.
There is one nation in the Middle East where Muslims, Christians, Jews, and anyone else may worship freely, study, work, vote, serve in government, receive government benefits, including medical care) and petition the courts. That country is Israel.
Loyaltay to Israel is loyalty to the values established by the founders of THIS nation when Washington’s army “stole” this land from the British Empire in order to found America.
Obama distains those values. It is no surprise that he spits his contempt at both Israel and the the United States.
Thanks for your posts, Elle.
The storms, and earthquakes have been bad enough these past 6 months. I bet if the US Marxist government condems Israel, the storms, and earthquakes get even worse.
I am not impressed with Egypt after seeing this-
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1317384
Im even further disgusted that CNN didnt report this either.But alas im not surprised.Weak kneed lily livered lefties.
I really wish the turmoil Barry has brought upon the Country effected only the people who voted for him. They deserve him, we don’t.
http://www.watch.org/
Hear hear. It’s Atlas Shrugged, fleeing to Galt’s Gulch time.
One thing is certain, whenever news is out in cyberland on Israel the same anti-semites appear with the same rhetoric concerning either the large amount of aid that Israel received from the US and the Liberty incident. This orchestra of super left wing activists never know when enough is enough.
As a German who saw the large amount of aid that the Nation of Germany gave the Jews after the Holocaust,one can only feel pride that every Mark,and every Euro was given gladly as our way of saying that indeed we are sorry for the damage done commercially and civilly to the Jewish People. What did we in Germany every get back fron Israel? The answer applies to the USA as well. We received technology both for our domestic use and in information of a military nature when we were dealing with the Soviet Empire. The USA also received much needed information that only the intelligence of the Israeli nation could have provided. The USA had no other means of obtaining this information.
In 1915, the Luisitania was sunk by a German submarine in international waters. The German Kreigsmarine had information that the ship carried a hugh load of ammunition which was against the Neutrality Act of the USA at that time. The ship sunk with the loss of many American lives. It was a tragic event. The Germans were depicted as barbarians and Huns for “killing so many innocent lives” The Germans never fully recovered from this sinking as the USA and Great Britain steadfastly denied over all these years that the ship was unarmed and only carried passengers and their cargo. That is until recently when salvagers finally went down to the ship graveyard and found in the cargo hold a hugh supply of ammunition,guns, and other warlike material.
The same held true for the USS Liberty. What was this spy ship doing in waters close to action in the Six Day War,except to spy on the Israelis? The ship was ordered to leave, and it disobeyed the order. Consequently, the ship was sunk with a loss of American lives. Whose fault is this? The Israelis? hardly. The bigger question asks, what was a US Ship doing so close to the action if not to spy on an ally? Only the CIA knows these answers.
There are many Israel bashers out there. This will never change unfortunately. The current President in no exception. He treated the PM of Israel like he was a second rate citizen rather than the leader of a country. Immaturity accounts for that bad behavior. It seems that the USA is sinking into an abyss as it demonizes Israel. Please remember that The Lord God made the Jewish People exalted and special. Messing with the Jews means messing with God. I sincerely hope no one is willing to accept that role.
You are so right!
“I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you”
Words spoken by Almighty God!
We need to heed those words, it is a fearful thing to come against the Lord Almighty!
He gave that land to the Jews as an eternal covenant!
They were dispersed around the world for many,many centuries because of their disobedience but God promised to bring them back to their land in the generation that would see the Messiah return!
Read Bill Koenig`s book: EYE to EYE to see what happens when we come against God`s purposes especially concerning Israel!
The issue of land grabbing also comes up by these same anti-semites when discussing Israel. In war, when one is the aggressor and when won loses the war whatever land that is lost is forever lost until the next war of course. In Israel’s situation, the Palestinian Mandate as described through the League of Nations gave the land from the sea to the Jordan River as a national homeland for The Jewish People. This was originally declared by the Balfour Declaration of 1917. All of this is past history, what matters here is that the Arab nations have tried since the founding of the State of Israel to “get back” this land that was originally mandated for the Jewish People. The Arabs lost these wars and the original land went back to the original owners of the land, mainly the Jews.
Think of the situation like this: We Germans started WW1 and 2. We lost those wars. Do you think we are entitled to Danzig,East Prussia, Pomerania, the Ruhr, the Sudetenland et al? Does anyone think we should start yet another war to retrieve those properties? I don’t think that would be a good idea. Neither does anyone who has a real knowledge of history can state that”the Arabs are entitled to lands that are occupied by Israelis” especially those lands that were lost by wars that the Arabs themselves have started and have lost.
arabs are one of the most imperialist nations in the world. They pursued an unprovoked war on egypt, persia, and byzantium for hundreds of years. Why are arabs not being asked to return to arabia? Only the copts are authentic egyptians. muslims arabs militarily occupied egypt in eighth century and have oppressed native egyptians ever since. They were repulsed in spain, portugal, france, and palestine. They should now be removed from most of the middle east where arab muslims have only institutionalized misery and poverty.
No need to list why Israel deserves respect as our ally. The UN needs to take a hike and I would love to see the US stop paying any $ to the UN. Why is anyone with a conscience surprised by the evil promelgated by one of the most corrupt organizations in the world! The very idea that murderous dictators from around the world all oppose the state of Israel is a testament in itself. The only democracy in the middle-east, God bless Israel with peace. However,peace isn’t achieved through appeasement with those who would wipe you out. I am very sad that my country elected Mr. Obama, and it has nothing to do with his ethnicity, it has to do with his awful ideas which include bowing to authoritarian (pardon my mild description)foreign leaders and furthering liberal ideas that would cause the USA to no longer be the exceptional America I was blessed to be born in. 2012 is coming quickly and anyone with a conscience will not be voting for Mr. Obama.
Throw American bondholders propped up artificially creating faux paper wealth
under the bus. American enterprise ruthless like all enemies of Israel Amalek
antithesis of enterprise Zion seeks destruction of Israel her standing at UN.
American & Jewish leadership compromised cannot be trusted nor can church
Christians insisting on their god of love unconditional forgiveness morally
toxic politics economy hazardous to human health negating commons good.
Israel obligated so must prefer Israeli Jews who dwell in the Land over Jews
and other nations outside. The latter hold balances incongruent with Jewish
aspirations in whatever bounderies now presently appearing circumscribing us
Jews devoted humans who currently reside in exile debased by mitzraim Jesus.
aaaaahh every article on ISr brings out the righty jewhaters err I mean anti Israel– and of course they all say the exact same crap as the lefty jewhaters-err anti zionists- no surprises as they all parrot the same meme-
rather than get into a pointless defense of Isr or deny the re-write of facts these jewhaters all spout
I would like to thank Ms Ileana Ros Lehtinen for calling out the Obummer admin and the senators who presented OBumbler with opposition- Ms Lehtinen is a Cuban and knows how Castro did it- and it’s hard to fool those people who lived through being duped and then lost their nation to commies pretending to be social justice democrats.
http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press_display.asp?id=1724
also props to John Bolton and those of you who see the truth and know right from wrong