At least that’s my rough count of the time elapsed for the meeting at which the United Nations Security Council just passed its fourth sanctions resolution against Iran’s rogue nuclear projects.
The clock is ticking toward the Iranian nuclear bomb. But, with a brilliant symbolic flair, the Security Council got down to business more than an hour late. During the wait, the UN webcast cameras caught delegates and their aides milling around the chamber, chatting, smoothing their hair and talking on cell phones. U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice kissed assorted envoys on both cheeks, and then, as time dragged on, ended up at one point apparently staring off into space — before going into a huddle near the entrance. Delegates here and there sat down, and then, impatience unrequited, stood up again. Iranian Ambassador Mohammad Khazaee strolled around, one of the crowd, meeting and greeting.
Finally, an hour and 11 minutes into the live feed, Mexico’s ambassador – who is chairing the Security Council this month – banged the gavel. Brazil and Turkey gave statements in which they regretted that the Council had not embraced their sham proposal last month for a specious uranium swap, which they are now trying to enter into history as the “Tehran Declaration.” Turkey assured everyone of “the exclusively peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear program” — give or take a few nagging problems that Turkey would like to see dealt with exclusively through dialogue.
The 15 members voted 12 to 2 to approve the resolution, with Turkey and Brazil voting against. Lebanon abstained, but its ambassador seized the occasion to slam Israel and pine publicly for a nuclear-free world — in which, as advertised by the Hezbollah-infested government of Lebanon, Iran would be deterred by dialogue alone. The other members spoke their pieces, with Rice repeating the Obama mantra that “rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something.” (But what? So far, words have not meant anything that has stopped either the North Korean or the Iranian nuclear programs). For reasons that perhaps only UN diplomats are equipped to understand, everyone had kind words for Turkey and Brazil over their quisling attempts to abet Iran.
You ask, ”Now what?” Why, nothing, of course. Iran will continue it’s nuclear program & it’s ballistic missile program. They will obtain deliverable nuclear weapons that can strike at Israel, their Arab neighbors, Europe, & eventually, America. They will increase their support for terrorism, they will intimidate & blackmail Europe & America & their Arab neighbors, they will ratchet up their subversion of the vaguely pro-Western Arab states, they will work to increase the price of oil (& will succeed), & just possibly, they will start a major regional war which may involve the use of nuclear weapons on both sides.
This is why Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize, in this Orwellian world we live in, War is Peace.
dont you think that obama supports terrorism? for example his reaction for accident with flotilla. it seems he supports this provocation…
“dont you think that obama supports terrorism?”
I don’t know, but someone once said: Never ascribe to malice that which can easily be explained by stupidity. Or words to that effect.
No, I don’t think that Obama actually supports terrorism. I think he is an intellectually shallow, ideologically blinkered, pseudo-intellectual, radical university sophomore way past the time to grow up, inept, inexperienced, a narcissist, an opportunist, full of resentment, able to rationalize corrupt political practices, short-sighted, a pseudo-Third World radical with a sympathy for Islam – I could go on. But, he is probably not a supporter of terrorism although he likely sees it as something, somehow ”romantic”- the ”resistence” if you will of the oppressed against the imperialist West. He’s pretty creepy, actually, quite a liar, a con man.
1. He doesn’t know what it is, so he can’t support or oppose it;
2. He believe that anyone who defines himself as a freedom fighter (except white Americans or Jews) is one;
3. Some of his best friends support terrorism, but had no idea that the ‘activists’ on the Marmara ‘might’ attack Israeli sailors, attempt to kidnap them and kill them. That despite the fact that Bill Ayers admitted he blew buildings up, and his wife likewise.
They had no idea, Terry, and neither did he. The fox is in the henhouse, grinning away.
Terry,
Nicely summarized. Our 44th President is happlessly incompetent and impotent. Any one who bothered to research this man would have discovered his complete lack of qualification for his current employment. The recently passed sanctions on the Persian state are toothless and useless. They do nothing to weaken the regime. This shows us just how weak Obama and Hillary Clinton are.
America is slowly awakening to the facts about our President and his limitless fecklessness. He adheres to a demonstrably failed ideology that has historically produced miserable economic returns for those who perscribe it. His international relations bromides are equally out of touch. This set of beliefs puts the lie to the conventional wisdom that Obama is a hyper intelligent man, although I do believe he has some intelligence. A truely wise individual would realize the foley of the path he is traveling.
Disaster is the only formulation available from these facts. Get ready America, the incompetent reaction to the Deep Water Horizon explosion will pale in comparison to what happens in the coming months on the international scene and within the confines of our own borders. Elections have cosequences, as does ignorance.
Larry in the Silicon & Samizdat.
Something I find amazing, I remember the first time I saw Obama speak. My sister, who lives in America, told me to look out for him, a new Democrat, better than Hillary. Out of curiousity, I figured I’d check him out. Well, it took me a few minutes watching & listening to this creep to realize that this was a classic con man, a phoney, a liar. His facial expressions, his body language, his speaking style, all proclaimed ”con man” – like an alarm going off. It’s like a BS detector, you can just smell a fake. I couldn’t believe that others didn’t see this immediately.
The more I learned about him, the worse it got.
I think we haven’t seen the worst yet, I think this guy will go into melt-down as the cumulative failures pile up around him.
Mr. Eiliat, an adequate and nearly entire description of obama, and as thus, well stated. I say nearly, because I think there is more info about obama, that in time, may come to light. I suspect it will not be positive.
its is clear and normal that ahmadinejad is against israel, but what makes me nervious after accident with flotilla whioch probably was provocated by hamas or by iranian goverment, obama demonstrates that he is not going to support israe, even though he perfectly knows what happened there in a real way…
That’s the most disgusting thing about the United Nations. It gives the illusion that it is doing something, when, in reality, it always manages to do nothing. Iran will get its nuclear bomb and it will terrorize the Middle East. Ironically, it will pose a bigger threat to Sunni Muslims states (such as Saudi Arabia) than it will to Europe. Also, Israel’s days will be numbered before a nuclear “event” takes place. Iran will probably give either a nuclear bomb or the components for a radiological “dirty” bomb to a terrorist group, probably Hezbollah, which will then detonate it in Israel. Once that happens, the world will never be the same again. And those hypocritical, duplicitous, anti-Semitic, overpaid bureaucrats at the UN will be primarily to blame.
When Iran finally does get its nuclear weapon, I wonder who at the UN will get the blame? And, I wonder how they will respond to it? You only have to look at North Korea for the answer to those questions. They will do nothing and the world will be one step closer to all-out nuclear war. The UN should have been shut down years ago.
There are few parallels to draw between Iran and N. Korea – the latter being the lap-dog of Communist China. Iran is a lap-dog to nobody and will have little or no restraint in using nuclear weapons. N.K would like to peddle their nuclear wares to the highest bidder – and indeed may have already done so. Their main problem is in the delivery of the goods to the high bidder.
The only logical path – other than the USA – to slowing or stopping Iran’s race to the bomb is Israel. One can only wonder (and hope) whether reason will return to our foreign policy as it relates to Israel and the green light (and aid?) is given. I have no illusions that our feckless Obama would do so.
You bring up some good points, but I still don’t see why we do not engage in massive covert operations to overthrow the Iranian government. We missed our best (and possibly only) chance to do this last year when the bulk of the Iranian people came out to protest against the mullahs and the rigged election. The biggest, and I mean the BIGGEST, mistake Obama and this administration made was not to come out and fully support the protesters and wage an major covert operation to overthrow the mullahs then and there. It would have worked and we would have saved Israel from having to attack Iran.
Now look what we have. Iran is about to have the bomb and Obama and Hillary Clinton should be ashamed of themselves at not taking advantage of that golden opportunity to overthrow the existing Iranian government. This is perhaps the greatest example of why an inexperienced politician with no executive experience (like Obama) should ever be elected president.
I have read most of your posts and I am impressed by them. I think there is a cognitive block, though, with you and others that believe Obama is merely naive, feckless, corrupt, etc. In his heart he thinks its great if a power can arise in the ME to humiliate and terrify Israel. It’s all a game to him, and there is no doubt where his heart lies – no matter if he is forced to act in opposition to it by ‘reality.’
I am also not sure what ‘reality’ is as far as the senior, clear voices and all that in his Administration. Has Gates not already said that an Iranian bomb is a fact, and that the IRG really only wants it to counter Israel as a ‘defensive’ measure. He did say those things, or very close. Did Brzez not say that the US should shoot down Israel warplanes on the way to Iran? And where do Brennan, Jones, Malloy and all the rest of them stand? Samantha Powers wants to invade Israel. Bibi is supposed to sit in Jerusalem and hope Hilary straightens them out?
Guess again.
Speaking of our feckless leader there is an excellent article in the WSJ about him and his cast of characters (Cabinet).
Libertyship46,
Your analysis is right on. If Obama had a clue, he would have helped foment the mullahs demise and aided the Greens. He thought by not doing so he could make friends with these murdereers. That belief ignores history and the motivations of the regime. It is entirely detached from reality.
As a result, we are now faced with a military solution to the Iranian weapons problem. Obama doesn’t understand the existential threat that is posed by the mullahs and their proxies in Lebanon and Gaza. He is actually increasing the likelihood of war, not reducing it. It’s Chamberlain all over again.
What a fool we have for a leader. God help us all.
Perhaps you can help me out here? Why would you nuke the place you are trying to live. Call me silly but it just does not make sense. Palestinians want to live in Israel. They will not nuke the place. Please give some thought before speaking.
Brian,
Do you think Syria and Iran are trying to get the bomb to roast marshmallows? Have you heard of a neutron bomb? It is a technology that has been around for at least 30 years that does minimal property damage, but kills people en masse.
Please tell us all what these two terrorist states nuclear programs are for. Have you read Hamas’ charter? How about Hezbollah’s? Do you understand what a caliphate is? Did you know that Hamas and Hezbollah, both proxies for Iran, have a stated goal of wiping Israel off the map? Please wake up.
You would be correct if we were dealing with rational people here. The reason Mutual Assured Destruction worked during the Cold War was because both sides understood what nuclear war would bring and neither side wanted to be totally obliterated. So long as you had enough nukes to destroy the other side, there would not be any nuclear war.
The problem, and major difference, with Iran is that they don’t really CARE if the Palistinians are harmed if Israel is destroyed by nuclear weapons. The insane men who run Iran actually believe in the Twelfth Imam, where they have to destroy the Middle East in order to “save” it, or to usher in the coming of their “savior.” They are not deterred by Mutual Assured Destruction and some of them would actually welcome it, because it would given them their one-way ticket to “paradise.” That is what is so very dangerous about this situation. You think you’re dealing with rational people here when you’re not. And that is why Iran MUST NOT get nuclear weapons. Even a deranged ruler like Kim Jong Il in North Korea values self-preservation and knows when to back down. But the Iranians will go all the way and, if that happens, there will not be much left of the Middle East to fight over that isn’t radioactive.
If you read my post carefully you would would notice I only said Palestinians. I did not mention Syria and Iran. My post was in response to an earlier post stating Hamas would set a dirty bomb off in Israel. A Neutron bomb releases increased amounts of radio activity, but thank you for the lesson. Hamas wants Israel the nation state to be cone not the physical location. They see it as rightfully theirs. So my question again is why would they want to make the place they want to live uninhabitable for years and years.
“That’s the most disgusting thing about the United Nations. It gives the illusion that it is doing something, when, in reality, it always manages to do nothing.”
I disagree. The UN is indeed doing “something.” The nations of the world are united in destroying Israel. Whether or not they succeed only time will tell. But as for me, I’m putting my money on Israel. Israel will be left bloody but standing, but only after she decimates Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria in the coming, and apparently more and more inevitable, war. This time, I don’t think that this time Israel will yield to the cries of “disproportionate” by the oil-glutton, Euro-wusses of the world.
If war does come, I hope Israel is able to completely decimate it’s opponents. It will pay a very heavy price in the conflict as Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran have enough missile capability to really batter the Israelis. However, IDF has assets and capabilities sufficient to severely damage all of it’s opponents if it takes the gloves off completely.
If the Persian and Arab opponents decide to dirty bomb or use chemicals God help them, the Israelis will respond with something far, far, stronger. An attack in the long run would be a suicide mission. The twelth immam belief, cherished by the mullahs, raises that possibility. These boys are not rational at times.
In his own mind, Obama IS the Twelfth Imam, but he was unable to persuade the Middle East in his Cairo speech. This, even though he unveiled his middle name and extolled all kinds of incorrect achievements of Islam. Rots o’ Ruck, Schmuck!
You are partly right Liberty, in your analisis of Iran’s distribution of nuclear “stuff”. I’ve always maintained that there will be no mushroom cloud of a device going off. Too easy to track back to the launch site. Iran won’t give nukes to anyone ’cause they never know who it may be used on. No, it will be highly radioactive dust spread in the breeze with, maybe, the help of an M80 firecracker. Or maybe 20 pounds in the nose of one of those Scuds Hezbollah just picked up. No explosion. It’ll seem like a dud. Plausable deniability. No one to attack. Israel uninhabitable. The same scenario could easily apply to New York, without the Scud, of course. For the Iranians, why build a bomb when the enriched uranium dust can do just as good a job?
Enriched uranium dust doesn’t leave large areas uninhabitable. It’s a nuisance, but you can wash it down.
No, it will be highly radioactive dust spread in the breeze with, maybe, the help of an M80 firecracker. Or maybe 20 pounds in the nose of one of those Scuds Hezbollah just picked up. No explosion. It’ll seem like a dud. Plausable deniability. No one to attack. Israel uninhabitable.
Highly radioactive means it will decay really fast. An M80 firecracker might just spread it, oh I don’t know, a couple of hundred metres if the wind is up? And 20 pounds is stuff all. Spread it over a city with an airburst and it will barely increase the background radiation. Some people will die horrible deaths from heavy metal poisoning though.
None of this adds up to “Israel uninhabitable”.
Oh, and as for your New York scenario – plausible deniability didn’t get the Taliban very far. The same would apply to Israel if they were attacked.
You probably should be aware that uranium (even U-235) is only very weakly radioactive, with a half life of 700 million years. It’s a very poor choice for a dirty bomb. The reason it’s used in nuclear weapons is because it will sustain a fission chain reaction, not because it’s especially dangerous. It’s not even all that bad chemically in terms of heavy metal poisoning unless it’s concentrated – it’s quite common in the Earth’s crust so we’ve evolved with a fair amount of resistance to it. If you live in a house with a decent sized yard there’s a couple of kilos of it out there. Unlike plutonium, which doesn’t exist naturally so, as I read somewhere that I can’t remember, “there is no amount of it that won’t make you want to go and lie down”. But bear in mind we’re talking about poisonous effects, not radiation.
Brian N, for your answer go visit Hiroshima, where life appears to go on. Nuclear weapons are in some ways just big bombs – but even in a country as small as Israel they’re not big enough to make it uninhabitable. If they could collapse the Israeli state with a couple of nukes, of course the Palestinians would do it.
I’m doubt it would actually work. A coordinated decapitation strike along with wiping out key elements of the IDF might create sufficient chaos for a takeover. But against that we have a) I’m sure the Israeli govt has thought about these things and has made all likely parties aware that the Samson strategy would still go into effect – goodbye Teheran, Damascus, southern Lebanon, and Gaza at the very least; b) I doubt a decapitation strike is possible, presumably the IDF and key elements of the govt are decentralised for precisely this reason; and c) invading a country full of pissed off reservists is not a winning strategy, at least not with the forces available to the Palestinians or anyone else nearby.
I should add that “dirty bombs” are just another terror tactic – they’re not a way to make cities uninhabitable. Same goes for a few small nukes, which is all Iran will be capable of in the near future. Forget neutron bombs (high transient radioactivity, low fallout), that’s way beyond their capability for a long time. Even if they get a few bombs, they won’t be destroying Israel or anyone else in the near future. The point behind having a few nukes is to deter anyone from invading you because the price is too high, not to use as offensive weapons. If Iran opened that door with Israel they would really regret it when it came back tenfold. People have funny ideas about nukes – when we were talking about thousands of warheads in the Cold War it was different.
This is not to say that I think that Iran’s nuclear program is ok. Firstly, I don’t know if they’re that rational. Secondly, although I’m saying that dirty bombs or nukes can’t defeat a country in the strategic sense, the human misery caused would still be immense – I’m not trying to belittle that.
For Iran, the theory goes that having a nuclear capacity shields them from invasion while continuing conventional aggression. This is not really true – again, nukes are just big bombs, and once you use them they’re gone. If someone really wants to invade and has the will to soak up the casualties and keep going, they won’t protect you. They just raise the cost. I suspect this is one of the reasons Russia and China are pretty sanguine about it – they just don’t see a nuclear Iran as all that much of a threat.
Yet more sanctions… and the beat goes on. Already proven multiple times to be ineffective, sanctions only serve to give Iran more time to complete its goal: the development of nuclear weapons. And that time is almost upon us, that is, if it hasn’t already passed us by. Iran will soon have nukes, and then the distribution process to terrorist organizations will begin. What follows will give horrific meaning to Obama’s campaign slogan. The world will definitely change, and talk of nuclear non-proliferation will be a thing of the past.
Now the Obamana Dhimmicarats are claiming that Iran would cooperate if Turkey were admitted to the EU.
Anything to avoid having a backbone..including giving
60 million more Muslims a EU passport.
Is there no end to the delusions of this group
of lunatics?
WWIII here we come.
I don’t waste my time reading about Iran’s nuclear program and the world’s attempts to stop it. Within a few years Iran will announce it has the bomb. It will ramp up its support for terrorist activities in the Middle East and elsewhere. Iraq in particular will come under heavy pressure and ultimately start leaning towards Iran. All of our soldiers’ sacrifices will be wasted. Throughout this time politicians of all stripes will wring their hands and bemoan Iran’s actions and support sanctions which have never worked. They will continue to hold their breath hoping for some “internal” change of government in Iran while never taking serious steps to support dissidents in Iran.
The only headline that will change any of this (and which I will then read) is “Israel bombs dozens of Iranian research sites.” If Israel is going to do it, then they need to do it soon – both so as to stop development earlier and because with US forces in between Iran and Israel, it makes it difficult for Iran to take direct action without the US being dragged into it. Once US forces in Iraq are significantly reduced, Israel will have less assurance that a weak US government will do anything about Iran’s forces moving through Iraq.
Has it occurred to anyone else that the hidden imam might be in the White House?
I get confused about the 12th imam. He was born in 868 ad, then went into hiding,came out at age 6, went into hiding again… yet guides, and will “re”appear.
Maybe that is why we have no background on Obama…hhmmmmmmm
Maybe he is the “12th”.<:(
China and Russia side with IRan.
The Israeli occupied US Government is changing the game a bit with Obama giving Bibi the ropa dope treatment.
Many are thrilled to see Obama talking the talk – but refusing to walk the walk. I judge Obama by how much the J Post hates him.
That’s why I voted for him. He says all the talking points about wonderful Israel, the ONLY democracy in the Middle East… yada yada yada… he has to.
But push has come to shove… and if Israel has the bomb… why can’t Iran?
‘The many’ that you refer to would be muslims of course.
Do you always pick sides by which one appears (in your mind anywho) to be winning?
I just love your rationalization “… and if Israel has the bomb… why can’t Iran?”
I bet you thought that up between bong hits – eh?
I don’t suppose it matters one whit that Israel has never threatened anyone with their nukes. Or that Iran has promised to wipe Israel off the map as soon as they get nukes.
What a putz.
These “its all relative” morons are losers. Beavis
and Butthead types with a skateboard in one hand
and bong in the other.
In your world view, the only reason the US isn’t out there on the front line killing jews, is because the jews secretly run Washington?
G Mark,
You betray yourself in your comment as an antisemitic lefty bigot. Israel is the only freely elected government in the region, with the exception of Iraq. You side with the forces of totalitarianism, at least that’s what flows out of your comment. You and Helen Thomas would make a fine couple. I hear she is available and suddenly has time on her hands.
Rice repeating the Obama mantra that “rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something.” (But what? So far, words have not meant anything that has stopped either the North Korean or the Iranian nuclear programs).
The Twelver A’jad (eagerly cultivating the chaos that will presage the return of the Mahdi) had some words to say about the UN’s newest moves, all those pronouncements after 16 (more !) months of pretend negotiations…
He equated the new sanctions to a “used tissue”.
Hard to disagree with that assessment.
amadanijead is GOING to do exactly what he has said he will do…our ruling elites can’t get thier heads around this and thus cannot act…i fear we are already to late to alter this eventuality… we really should be preparing for the aftermath
I wonder if the typical liberal urban Jews
have learned anything about themselves
by watching Obama?
The Israelis will fight like lions if they are provoked.
American Jews seem to live in an alternative reality. They, no doubt, are champions of the Israeli state, yet they voted for the most antisemetic President we have had in the last 90 years. His antisemitism was there for all to see prior to the election. Three quarters of them voted for Obama anyway. The majority of polled Jewish voters still support him.
That’s what leads me to believe they are living in some sort of paralel universe where you actively work against your heritage and your peoples own interest, but no harm comes from it. Here in the real world different, far more belicose results occur.
Liberal Jews have been attacking Conservative America
for decades..portraying them as beer bellied bigots.
Archie Bunkers, Klansman,hicks. Forgetting that the Ameirca that gave Jews refuge was the brainchild of
white conservative Christians, small businessman, farmers, conservative intellectuals of European
heritage. It was these Sunday School going Christians
who remembered the tales of King David and Kingdom of
Israel..and for whom the idea of State of Israel resonated..it was here US alliance with Israel was born.
But the Hollywood Jews were relentless in undermining traditional America. Now look where it has gotten them.
When white middle class America is a minority Israel can
approach the Mexicans in LA or the Muslims in Micigan
for support. Good Luck
Now what ?
The beast will keep growing, fed by the forces of subversion, nihilism, chaos.
We can only keep our spirit open to the Infinite Love of God, and hope that our will to defend Freedom, Israel, and the West will involve more and more people.
The President has ordered a $400 million dollar aid package be supplied to Hamas, for that’s who would get it. Mike Pence just called out the President on the House floor asking which side he was on. Rhetorical, no doubt, Pence and the majority of Americans know Obama sides with the totalitarians against Israel.
When you think about our history going back to Harry Truman and Israel Obama’s bias is completely pathetic. What is even more pathetic is that three quarters of the Jewish voters in our country supported this man.
I don’t think it will be 75% next time. Still, the pull to Orthodox Liberalism and fear of the Evangelicals remains strong in some quarters.
You also have to calculate how Jews will vote based on who is running. There is no guarantee Obama will get the nomination. If he does, then it will also depend on who he runs against. If it is Sarah Palin, which I doubt, then he might still get 60%, which would be much too high. If it were a Romney or a Huckabee, then maybe 50%.
You have to accept that probably 1/3 of Jews counted in community stats and voting polls as Jews are in practical terms anti-Jewish universalists who would in fact stand by to see Israel destroyed. Some would clap.
1- please stop calling anti jew or anti semite beacuse
someone critisizes Isreal.
2-we also give 10 million $$ a day to the Israeli for the to blochade Gaza and we also give the same amount money the ruthless egiptain government to
to tuortue theri people and also to blockade Gaza.
3- please stop blaming Obama. he is been in the office for one. the Iranians were enriching Uranium for 8 years under president Bush. this site and like Hoff Post
Hoff post(liberls site) is so biased. you guys do not want
to hear anyone with different point view. it is your views
or highway. George Bush could have come up with a cure
for cancer and the liberals still bash him.. this is BS..
who and where are you coming from every jew who voted for Obama
should not support his policies toward Israel. it is like
every catholic has to support every thinfg the pope says.
no they don’t. besides there millions of Jews in this country
who identify theselves as American and whose allegience is
to America, unilke most of you here on this site who live
and enjoy America but your allegence is ti a forign country
Israel that is.
Ms. Rosett: I am from Iran and was just there not long ago..
things are so f….up there it is not even funny. it is a disaster
economy in shamles, rampent inflation, a brutal and oppresive governmet
but when it come to the Nuclear issue the whole county is united.
this round of sanction will not work either, bobming those
sites will set off WWIII I am convinced of this?
there is got to be a solution.. I don’t know what but there has to
be. Iranian government should not nuclear weapon, otherwise
it will be just like North Korea black mailing everyone
Miriam,
1. When your stated goal is the destruction of the Jewish state you are an antisemite.
2.The blockade is in place to prevent war material from getting into Hamas’ hands. They have been bombing and rocketing Israel for years. The blockade is legal under international law.
3. Obama has demonstrated that he is feckless and is unable to match performance to his flowery, empty prose. He sat in a church that spewed hatred for Israel for 20 years. He has bullied the PM of Israel and attempted to humiliate him. He is an incompetent man who demonstrates antisemetic behavior. His inability to lead has become apparent to the American people as his approval rating is now below 45 % and falling.
4. My views are based upon observation of reality, not on wishes. I am particularly disturbed by your inaccurate statement that I am allegent to a foriegn power. Israel is an ally and has been so for more than 50 years. My allegiance is to my country and it’s allies.
By contrast, the country of your birth has taken Americans hostage and killed hundreds of US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as in Lebanon. The regime has killed thousands of it’s own citizens, while setting up proxies to fight our ally Israel. I am not confused by allegiance as the President is.
5. Your post wishes for a solution to the nuclear problem in Iran, a country that has called my country the great satan and has repeatedly spoken of wiping Israel off the map while arming Hamas and Hezbollah. The US and western nations have sought a peaceful solution. Iran has turned it’s back on that. If they continue pursuing the bomb Israel is likely to have to act, because of Iran’s stated existential threat to Israel. If Israel acts, many of your country folk will be killed. Your belicose homeland is leaving few alternatives.
5. It would be exceedingly helpful if you and your fellow country men and women would force a change of course in Iran before it is too late. If the mullahs continue on the present path, the alternatives are quite unpleasant. If Iran attempts blackmail, it will become an asterisk in a history book. That would be an awful end to an ancient civilization with a rich history, that up until 30 years ago was a contributing member of the world community.
No offense “miriam rove”, but Webster’s makes a fine English language dictionary! English obviously isn’t your first language, and it’s really difficult to excoriate someone whose pathetic grammar gains only sympathy. I truly want to not like you, but can’t get over feeling sorry for you. Coherency on your part will help me to achieve that goal… thank you!
Samizdat: you have some ba… calling antisemite… where are you coiming from or what staement did I make that you are concluding that I was the state of Israel destroyed? where? what does it mean your country of birth? ehat does that have to do with me? the same way that you sespise obama and his adminstration, I despise
the Iranian government. by you telling your country this or that it shows
me that you are biggot. by contrast I could say your country
plotted a soup in 1956 in Iran and deposed the freely and
democraicaaly elected government. I bet you didn’t know
this… so be objective, and not subjective.
we call Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and aghanistan
our allies too.. I give a s…less about any these allies.
Miriam,
Your 2nd post is more unintelligable than your first. I was not accusing you personally of antisemitism. Your home land is another matter. Iran’s government is the most antisemitic on the planet.
With that clarification in place I stand by everything else I said. And here’s another point. The Iranian people brought the current regime of killers to power. Millions of your countrymen thought the mullahs preferable to the hapless shah. Well how is that working out Miriam? How’s it working out for women in Iran? How’s it working out for the 30% who can’t get a job? Thanks so much for destabilzing the middle east.
Here’s another recomendation, your countrymen, in their infinite wisdom, put these butchers in power. It’s your job now to expend the necessary blood to rid the world of these animals. If you and your countrymen find the price too high, know this; when Iran gets the bomb, if it is used, be prepared for the consequences. American rage will demand the destruction of what you know as Iran. That is, unless the Israelis beat us to it.
If you think I am kidding, ask the Japanese and Germans.
Everybody knows (maybe with the exception of Obama) that decisions and actions in the Muslim world are not driven by logic or reason but by irrational, life denying religious fanaticism. Iran, the only Shiite Muslim country will, once having acquired nuclear bombs, not only be a danger to Europe and the USA but also to all Muslim countries that follow a different interpretation of the delusional pretensions of a man called Mohammed. It will not be unreasonable for Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq and others who can afford it to want their own nuclear arsenal. Who is going to stop them? The UN Security Council?
Fred you are right on all counts. There will be an acceleration of an arms race and the ending will not be pretty.
Obama sees agreement of he Russians and the Chinese as diplomatically isolating Iran and extending that isolation through the point of their gaining nuclear weapons. Iran did make a statement weeks ago that Russia ‘would be their permanent enemy if it voted for sanctions.’ This limits how much the US will be flanked diplomatically and, perhaps ultimately, militarily as we press Iran. The present time, given our level of military power, economic strength and diplomatic support, is not favorable for us to take military action against Iran; so we muddle forward in the chess game.
Michael,
That response is classic State Department speak. Let me present an alternative way of negotiating with this scum.
Diplomatic sources convey a message via a trusted ally, say Hezbollah. The message is that we reserve the right to hold Iran strictly liable for terrorist incidents or the development of nuclear weapons. This is because they have killed US soldiers and citizens in Iraq, Lebanon, and Afghanistan, have attacked US interests world wide and threatened and attacked allies. If they continue down the path they are pursuing we reserve the right to defend our citizens and eliminate threats to our soldiers and allies.
We then move 3 carrier battle groups into the Arabian gulf and begin a series of war game exercises. We keep the task force in the gulf permanently and war game frequently. We don’t go to the UN. We make it clear that the US reserves the right to defend it’s soldiers and citizens from attack and that we consider Iran to be a threat to the US and it’s allies. We also publicly deliver deep penetrating ordinance to Israel and aerial refueling capability. We also covertly support a revolutionary movement in Iran.
If Iran or its proxies act directly or indirectly against any US or allied interest, Iran and its proxies suffer attack. We specifically go after command and control and their ability to make war and threaten our allies.The military response is tailored to their level of violence and sends a very clear message to the Iranian people. My bet is Iran won’t dare to act and that while they bluster their behavior changes. The mullahs focus will turn to staying in power and staving off the revolutionaries.
Obama has no idea of how to negotiate. That’s why he has been such a failure internationally. It’s all about feeling good and not accomplishing any security.
I hate to be an It’s The End of The World As We Know It kinda guy, but it looks to me as if that point has been breached. Unfortunately it lies mainly at Bush’s feet. His house was divided, maybe it was too much to ask of any one man, but he swore to not let it get to this point. Ah well. I never expected Obama to do anything but equivocate, truly he and his buddies want nothing more than for Israel to be crushed. The end game – the mullahs trade Tehran for Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, no biggie for them. EMP off the East Coast, maybe one off the West Coast, and we’re done for, half the population ends up dead but infrastructure and breadbasket stands. China comes in with massive military manpower to mop it up. Out with the old boss…
Andy,
If we sit on our butts like Obama is doing, you will be right. President feckless has less than 2 1/2 years left in office. After his impotent administration, American’s will be ready for something more robust.
Samizdat: you mean 6 1/2 years.. who is going to beat him? Newt/
may be rush… I would srongly suggest Glen Beck to run for president