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War Weary — Really?

September 8th, 2013 - 2:40 am

“You ask what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs — Victory in spite of all terrors — Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.”

                          — Winston Churchill, House of Commons, May 13, 1940

With the Syria debate spiraling into confusion over what the president really wants to do, and whether he really wants to do it, we are hearing a lot right now about how war weary Americans are. Leading from in front in this talk is President Obama himself. On August 31, in the same statement in which he announced his decision that the U.S. “should take military action against Syrian regime targets,” he went on to say, “I know well that we are weary of war. We’ve ended one war in Iraq. We’re ending another in Afghanistan.”

He then handed the issue to Congress, left for Sweden and Russia, and upon return, in his weekly address, sounded the same note of fatigue: “I know that the American people are weary after a decade of war, even as the war in Iraq has ended, and the war in Afghanistan is winding down.”

But is war weariness really the problem? America these days has a volunteer military. They and their families have borne the real burdens of war, with almost 7,000 killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, and many more injured. But, as Washington Post columnist Robert J. Samuelson points out, the heroes who have been fighting for us are a small sliver of the American population — which now numbers more than 313 million. Samuelson gets it right on this: “For most Americans the constant combat has imposed no burdens, required no sacrifices and involved no disruptions.” He further notes that the financial cost of the two wars, while substantial, has been dwarfed over the same period by the American economy’s output of goods and services — by his calculation, based on figures of the Congressional Budget Office, war spending equaled nine-tenths of one percent of American production. There was no war tax. There has been no rationing.

Samuelson then draws inferences with which I disagree, saying that “these foreign military forays were a waste and in many respects have done more harm than good.”  But he’s quite right that if most Americans are tired and frustrated, it is for reasons other than war.

What’s wearying is the constant message from on-high that America no longer seeks to win its wars; merely to end them. What’s exhausting is the bath of euphemisms, from “overseas contingency operations” to “violent extremists” to “workplace violence.” To this we can add the grinding daily worries that come with a troubled economy, weak job market, and a growing thicket of regulations that no one seems able to contain or even keep track of. But that is not war weariness. That’s a problem of government intruding into every aspect of life, curtailing freedom at home while deflating the vision of America as a proud bulwark of freedom abroad.

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Oh there’s a malaise in America but it’s bigger than war weariness. The U.S. is one of the five worst surveillance societies on the planet – Russia, China, Britain and Malaysia being the other four. In America a bully government tramples or ignores constitutional rights and persecutes selected foes by attacking their reputations, their finances and their physical persons (NSA, IRS, various government agency SWAT teams.)

Outside America, not since the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991, and prior to that the fall of France in 1940, has there been so swift an erosion of the world influence of a Great Power as we are witnessing with the United States. Americans show no sign of wanting their country to be regarded as absurd in the world, and they are so America-centric, and so suffused with the heroic mythos of America, that they seem unable to grasp the possibility that it is.

All of this is the handiwork of your inadequate President and utterly incapable Commander in Chief, Buraq Hussein Obama. Although many Americans realize this fact, it is really disturbing that a huge number of Americans still do not see how inadequate their President is.

The real problem in Syria is not war weariness. The problem is not choosing the right policy. The real problem is that President Obama doesn’t know what he is doing. He is a dangerous fool who can’t be trusted.

That’s why the right decision is to keep President Obama out of Syria.
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I'm not 'weary of war'. I'm sick and tired of this nation's leaders thinking they can nation-build and effect regime changes of the ones they don't like. Go in - strike hard - move out. Let the morons that don't know or care about democracy rebuild from the ashes of their own creation. If they can. I don't care whether they can pull their nation back together again. Assad is fighting for his life - literally. Like Gaddafi if he loses he's dead and he knows it. Obama? He's fighting to save face after letting his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass.
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NO. No more. Not one more American soldier for that cess-pit AKA the middle-east. I refer to Bismark when he said "The whole of the Balkans is not worth the bones of one Pomeranian Grenadier". It's not the Syrians or the Iranians, it's Islam; a religion of death and decay. Let them kill each other til hell is full and if they try any cr@p with us again start the nuclear targeting lists with Qom, Damascus, and Mecca. After 9-11 we should have subjected the south-western side of the Hindu-Kush to a sustained tactical nuclear bombardment. Instead we opted for nation building for stone age savages ignoring all modern history all the Anglo-Afghan Wars and common sense. No more. We don't need their oil anymore, let those who do traffic with them at their peril. No more contact, trade or accomodation, let them burn. As for Israel, they possess the fourth or fifth largest stockpile of nuclear weapons on the planet behind us the Russians, Chinese, and maybe France plenty for any and everybody who thinks screaming "God is Great" is an excuse for rape and slaughter. No. No more. Enough is enough.
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The American people were fed promises of quick, easy, decisive victories in Afghanistan and Iraq, Why should we believe Syria will be any different? The gas was deployed to manuever the US into taking ill-advised, unneccesary reckless action without thought to the consequences. And BHO is falling for it, moving his chess pieces right into postition for stalemate if not checkmate.
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We are war weary because:

1) we are tired of hearing progressives damn us for Iraq and Afgahnistan.
2) we are tired of being called racist for wanting control of our boarders.
3) we tired of being called racist for not supporting Obama's policies.
4) we are tired of working and trying to save while public employee unions support progressive politicians and rape us, the US taxpayer and get raises, pensions and health care that we don't get under Obama care.
5)We are tired of Washington exempting themselves from the laws they pass for the rest of us.
6)we are tired of Obama care exemptions.
7)We are tired of being called racist for the one or two times a person fights back and kills a black criminal trying to kill us.
8)We are tired of being tarred with the same brush a George Zimmerman. He isn't white, he was never ever white. But white america is racist, again, because of Zimmerman.

The list could go on and on and on. And we are tired of spending our blood and treasure saving Muslims who then come to either kill us or call us Islamophobes when we condemn their barbarous cultural practices and support for theocratic sharia law..

We are tired of extremist Muslims trying to kill us and moderate Muslims wanting and allowing them to kill us. The silence of moderate Muslims is deafening.

Add your reasons why you are war weary below.

We do not want to support a man who ran as anti war and against GWB and conservatives as war mongers and racists and who was elected and still calls america racist.

We do not want to support a president or democratic party who are hypocrits and liars and the main stream media who support them.

We are war weary because none of the above mentioned have any family or loved ones, with very few exceptions, in the armed forces.

We are war weary because we are tired of hearing from tired liars who may have once been heroes (but I doubt it). Kerry and McCain may have been in the service but these days they sound like.
glory hound opportunists. (McCain's "Thank God" is the same as "Alahu Akbar" is telling. He is either stupid, a liar or both.)

Add you reasons for being tired of war in the comment thread.
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Samuelson then draws inferences with which I disagree, saying that “these foreign military forays were a waste and in many respects have done more harm than good.”

If you disagree, you must have not been paying attention to Iraq and Afcrapistan. Either that or you have been wearing a mighty thick pair of rose colored glasses - mighty thick.
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To think that the battles in Iraq and Afghanistan did more harm than good requires a powerful level of stupidity. Or suborning rational thought to political considerations.

Certainly we made mistakes and left quite a bit of good lying on the ground, but the world is a far better place now than it was in early September 2001.
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Truth be told, any ordinary Americans paying attention, and they are in the minority, recognize that our 'leaders' are anything but, their public pronouncements are amateur theatrics, their justifications are devoid of serious thought, strategic analysis, or even rudimentary understanding of the results likely to be the consequences of their actions, much less a coherent plan to respond to them. In short, we are being led by not ready for prime time politicos. It is long overdue, but the MSM has an obligation to point out how utterly second rate the current administration is. When pigs fly.
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Commander Zero and his pathetic progressive progeny have declared that this "war" is based on solid moral authority....theirs. However, "moral" authority is generally based on Judeo-Christian concepts, i.e., religion. The secular/atheist coven surrounding 0 merely want to "feel good" about their actions, which they see as "necessary but cost free."
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The US has nothing to gain by striking Syria, but it might lose one or more
surface combatant ships of the 6th Fleet if Obama orders them into range
of Russian supplied (and operated - who would know ?) anti-ship missiles.

There is no reason to waste more lives of US military personnel;
Send in the War Droids, or better the Assassination Droids, instead.
Yes, I admit we have none today;Will you admit we could have them
fielded in a year, maximum, by mass-producing existing prototypes ?
46 weeks ago
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Syria's newest coastal defense systems have a range 1,000km less than the TLAM. The Israelis have demonstrated an ability to literally shut off the Syrian air defense network (which can't be nearly as effective now due to the civil war). The odds of Americans dying in the event of an attack on Syria is rather remote.

Drones are not the answer. They do not operate very well in non-permissive environments, and you seriously underestimate the development work required to go from prototype to fielded system.
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There is nothing to gain by poking our noses into this fight, no matter which side wins they will still hate us. Then take the Words from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "we don't have the money or assets for another war" defeatism does not win anything. This country has been living in the ineptocracy of the Obama administration for almost five years, and that is what a lot of Americans are weary of.
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"[W]e don't have the money or assets for another war". Then we'd better get them, because that weakness will surely bring one.

Not to mention policy weakness- no coherent policy is policy weakness- and a certain lack of intestinal fortitude in our current leadership.
46 weeks ago
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Barack is channeling Jimmuh. He feels our malaise. Oh well, who's for a round of golf?
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I think Americans would support the following maybe: "Look Syria is full of WMDs that could fall into the hands of Al Qaeda or be given to Hezbollah at any moment. Here's the deal: In one week, Syria will declare a unilateral cease-fire and begin turning over their WMD stockpiles. Failure to comply, will result in the complete destruction of the Assad regime- every piece of military hardware, every base and every palace. Rebel units will stand down or be targeted as well."
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That sums it up. That is about the only way I would want to go in there.
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I'll be the one to go there.

War Weary? Maybe a little, but the real problem is that I'm tired of us going out of our way to hand power and influence to Islam.
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