So, the UN Wants the U.S. to Return Land to Indian Tribes…
Are there real troubles on tribal reservations in the U.S.? Yes. But there’s a very good argument that the problem is not lack of land, but a smothering and dispiriting mix of federal subsidies and regulatory intervention, including selective favors that enrich a few but do worse than nothing for the rest.
Rather than address that, the Obama administration has focused on providing a $1 billion settlement, announced last month, for claims dating back more than 100 years, or, as The Independent Sentinel described it, “Obama Buying Native American Votes.”
Whatever one’s view of that settlement, apparently it was not enough to satisfy the administration — which also called in reinforcements from the UN, in the form of inviting Anaya to “visit” his own native haunts, and provide a UN condemnation and prescription for the doings of America.
Citing “exemplary cooperation” from the Obama administration in his UN venture, Anaya, according to the Guardian, “declined to speculate on why no members of Congress would meet with him.”
Anaya will now present his “findings” to the next session of the UN Human Rights Council. If the U.S. administration is as eager as it appears to be to cooperate with this latest UN mission to remake America, here’s a suggestion. By all means, transfer some land back to the tribes who once lived there — but please, for the sake not only of native Americans, but all Americans — indeed, all mankind — let’s start with the ample patch of midtown Manhattan that currently houses the headquarters of the United Nations.
A cynical person might wonder what the reaction of the UN might be if we stated that the funds for these “reparations” would be paid for by subtracting the funds needed for them from the money we currently give to the UN. I suspect that the shrill sound of high moral outrage would suddenly change to the quiet of crickets gently chirping in the quiet of the night.
My family has been here since before the plains indians acquired Arabian steeds ( from Mexico ) to follow the buffalo. How many more centuries until I Qualify as a “native”?
SOL, Pat. What worries me is the Comanches may want to collect rent from me even though they surrendered to the US Army at Palo Duro Canyon. But the Wichitas were here long before the Johnie-come-lately Comanches; which is why we have the Wichita Mtns. in Comanche County and Wichita Falls down there south of the Red in New Spain. Will this mean the Franks will have to go back to Germany and all the Arabs back to Arabia? Hah! Another Zionist Conspiracy!
Next thing you know, the Celts will be asking for reparations from the Romans and Franks. Heck, someone may even devise a DNA test to determine those with a residual Neanderthal gene, who could then sue Homo sapiens for exterminating their forefathers (or do I have to say foreparents).
You’re getting to the core of this insanity, but you didn’t go far enough . . . .
Apparently the Basque people will be taking over much of Europe since there is a large body of evidence accumulating that they are related, at least in part, to Homo Neanderthalensis.
I hear GEICO is already hiring lawyers for their resident Neanderthals.
For that matter, perhaps some cracked scientist will re-create the dinosaurs, so they can sue us to regain possession of the Earth from the pasty human creatures who took it over.
That thought occurred to me, too. When are the African Homo Sapiens colonists going to pay reparations to the Neandro-Europeans for their well-documented genocide against us? If Elizabeth Warren gets to claim Native status based in 1/32 = 3%, pretty much all white Europeans can claim to be Neanderthal. Therefore all whites have a claim against all blacks.
QED.
I am 1/2 Slavic. We bear the hallmarks of Mongolians, which you see here and the – high cheekbones, slightly almond eyes. I bear these hallmarks.
I am thus statistically 0.033 percent Mongolian.
I demand Outer Mongolia back, in the name of the Subotai! Or else!
You ninny!
And the moment I posted that, I said, “dumbass, you’re only statistically *half* that, because you’re only Slavic on one side. Grr.
Post in haste, repent in leisure.
Another Harvard Law graduate. Are we seeing a pattern here?
she went to rutgers for law school – she’d never have been hired by harvard as a professor if she’d told them she was 31/32 percent white european.
ALL Harvard grads should spend the rest of their lives harvesting grapes by hand in Mendota, CA.
I know… let the natives build a giant casino on UN grounds in New York…they’ll bankrupt the lot of them and then they’ll have to leave.
Chief Seattle would be prouder than he already is. The great original Americans
are getting their revenge with every pull of the handle. Cha ching!
Absolutely, Claudia. Manhattan seems an excellent place to start, where we can make the U.N. into a new smoke shop and casino. Not much different than it is now.
However, I have a counter offer. As an Oklahoman, I will feel obligated to step up to the plate and bequeath my little piece of property as soon as Egyptians pay reparations to the Jews for 400 years of bondage.
When I heard that Obama had designs to be a big dog in Europe (an EU “supper president”) I thought it was a little wacko; now, it makes more sense! Heh! Who exactly are the U.N. morons that think they can dictate their wacko stuff to a sovereign country? Obama’s agenda has become even more transparent than ever.
END … the U.N. … it is the most useless entity on the planet and it doesn’t represent American interests anywhere; it doesn’t belong on our shores so let’s throw the bums out. Anaya has a cool job though – boppin’ around the country on the taxpayers dime; hey that sounds just like Obama.
The day that we finally “get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US” will be a great day, indeed! A day second only to the 4th of July in its importance to American independence! I wonder, what on earth does it take to make such a thing happen? Is American freedom and liberty truly lost to us all? Are we forever to be in the death grip of the globalist one-world-order crowd?
I agree with Ms Rosett. Why don’t we “re-occupy” the patch
of land the UN is squatting on in New York City and tell the
UN to GO POUND SAND in Belgium where their utter stupidity
and worthlessness will fit right in.
I wonder if James Anaya will fight for the “rights” of those “natives” who lost their lands to the Indian tribes (aren’t “Indians” from India?) who lost their lands to the Euros? Of course, those natives took land from other natives, so Anaya will just have to keep going all the way back to the Big Bang.
This isn’t about “justice.” This is about bigotry and racism. “Oh, those caucasians — what awful people.”
If you UN decides that the ‘correct’ borders for the US are those of say 1800 …
Can we apply those same borders worldwide?
There could be a plus here since all of the artificial African, Middle Eastern and Southeast Asian nations would return to their European colonial days.
The developed parts of China would be dismembered back into the European controlled ‘concessions’
South & Central America returns to Spain’s control
This would mean that the UN itself would then consist of about 20 nations.
What about the hut in the lowlands of Britan that was taken away from my kind for killing the Kings deer, then sent to America? BTW, that was never proven.
Bloody hell!
Yes, well…we’re *still* waiting to get that so-called “Ship Money” back that King Charlie 1 took from us during his Personal Rule period…and y’know…the Current Occupant of the White House reminds more and more of Charles 1 (of Britain)
Three cheers for Obama! One more entry on his long list of “accomplishments”. He and his ilk have managed to absolutely destroy the reputation of Harvard University by transforming it into the butt of a national joke. Obama….the Nobel laureate from Harvard. Wow! Ain’t that somethin’? By far more impressive is the kid that gets credit for his basic studies at the local community college and then goes on to graduate with a degree in the sciences from one of our fine Big Ten universities. (Although, I would approach Wisconsin with a certain degree of caution.)
Remember, Barry got the No-Bell Piece Prise, not for what he had done but for what they thought he might, maybe, possibly WOULD do. Which never happened.
Judging from the Harvard grads I met I got the impression that attendance at an Ivy League University was more a cry for help than anything else.
Just a thought.
As far as I know, Native Americans are the only ethnic group in this country that not only gets massive Federal subsidies that pay for just about everything from schools to housing, but they also always get preferential treatment when applying to colleges (and let’s not even talk about the scholarships and financial aid that is available to them). Elizabeth Warren aside, these have to be the most subsidized people in this country, yet it never seems to be enough for them.
I am happy to see that at least some of these people have turned to one major business, casino gambling. They are extremely successful at it (especially in the state of Connecticut) and have made a fortune for their people. Good for them. But my major question is, if they can succeed in one business, why not others? No other ethnic group gets the type and volume of financial aid they get, yet many Native Americans don’t learn any lessons from their casino-owning counterparts and find a business that will pull themselves out of the poverty the Federal Government is happy to keep them in. This is an object lesson on why government fails. When the Native Americans relied on themselves and started their own businesses, like casinos, they made millions. But those that were content to live off of the Federal dole and depend on the Federal Government for everything are still mired in poverty, drug abuse, and crime.
As for giving the land back to the Indians, well, I’ll be happy to do that when the French and the Germans give back lands that they took from the barbaric tribes that inhabited their lands first. Also, the British have to give back all lands to the Welsh and Scottish tribes that were there first. I’m sure the Romans had a legitimate claim to at least some uninhabited European lands, and I’m really sure that some of the Vikings had a claim to a good chunk of North American. But these Native American claims will go against Mexican claims, because the Mexicans say that they were in the American southwest first. Let’s see, how far back do we want to go in history to determine who owns what? But my biggest question is, do any Huns own any casinos today?
…do any Huns own any casinos today?
Yes, but they’re all in Germany.
I’m all for it as long as we do the whole world at the sane time. Fun, fun, fun.
What is the BBC’s position on the Falklands?
Returning the square footage currently occupied by the UN building(s) would be a great start.
The U.N. should be compelled to cease their occupation of land that rightly belongs to the Manhattoe tribe of New York.
They should be forced to restore it to it’s original natural landscape, complete with replacement of all wildlife.
The U.N. should be penalized several billion dollars to compensate for their defaming the landscape and pollution from years of automobile and aircraft traffic.
Require the U.N. to purchase an old derelict barge from the barge graveyard, complete with oarlocks, at the Witte Marine Equipment Company to live on, and cruise to their member states with.
We gave them Alcatraz once. Maybe we can do what George Carlin recommended; the Bering Strait solution. Give the Occupy gang shovels so they can fill in the Bering Strait and then the Indians can walk back home to Asia.
If that doesn’t work, we can always give Berkeley to the Palestinians.
Now, you’re just showing off your expertise in urban revitalization.
Practical ideas, too.
Obama and the Obots have been trying to find a shovel-ready project … Having the Occupy 99%ers refill the Bering Strait sounds like the solution.
Plus, once Occupiers get real jobs, they’ll join the 50% of us who are paying 100% of all the taxes.
Well, okay… if they insist.
By this token, I take it that the Arabs will be returning the Levant and North Africa to their original inhabitants, the Turks are drawing up the paperwork to give Anatolia and Thrace back, the Chinese are repatriating the Tibetans, Manchus, and Uighur, and Russia is giving back St. Petersburg, Koenigsberg, Karelia, the Black Sea coast, and everything east of the Urals? ‘Cause, you know, I’d totally take that deal.
I’d be happy enough if the Russians would give back all their lands to the descendents of Gehghis Khan, who conquered it fair and square and ruled much of it as late as 1923.
Even as competent as the U.N. is, I think they might get a little overwhelmed with that task.
Just another excuse for the Berber Raider-in-chief to take money from those who work and give it to those who don’t. Given the amount of money the government has wasted on the native Americans (not their fault) haven’t we already spent over a billion? When the NAs (native Americans) got to build casinos and could rake in all those millions, where did the money go? Not to give all of the huts electricity or running water. Instead the pseudo/faux NAs (related to Elizabeth Warren) got the money.
Tell you what. Given that all of American could theoretically be considered NA land, let’s first start taking away the mansions and ranches of the rich liberals who have built on what was NA land. How about the vineyards in California – NA land. The home of Pelosi? Probably NA land. Soros? Bet he is on NA land. Seize the land and let the NAs move in. See how fast Soros and the liberals shut the Puppet-in-chief up.
I think bulldozing the White House would make a nice gesture.
Uh….let’s see……wasn’t the United States entirely Indian territory before Europeans landed here? So I guess that means the dissolution of the United States is being called for by the UN. That should be good for the casino business anyway, unless all of non native Americans, are going to be required to emigrate back to Europe.
actually, according to recent findings, including spear points and many mummies recovered from florida swamps (see windover bog mummies, titusville, fla.) and the kennewick, wa. man d.n.a. indicate that the oldest Americans came from europe. these recovered bodies in fla. still had brain matter after 8k + years. there were white men in America long before the pyramids were built, and long before the migration from asia, and probably europe again later, happened. there are some very interesting ancient finding being dug up these days all over the world.
the indian tribes tried to seize the kennewick man and rebury him under a long ago treaty. seven scientists filed a law suit to stop his reburial, and won. they were then able to confirm his origins. the indians have been grabbing any really ancient materials found and quickly and quietly reburying them. guess that tax free casino $$$ will buy a lot of outrage.
Yeah, but to which European country do I get returned – I’ve got Irish, English, Dutch, Swiss, German and Alsacian (gone for about 100 years now) in me. And my kids will swear I’m a Neanderthal.
Actually, Clovis Indians (white Europeans) pre-date the Asian migrators by several millenia. And guess who killed who first? That’s right! Those mean nasty asians killed the white man first (I feel so oppressed!).
So it can be said that when Europeans began coming to the Americas they were just reconquistas – taking back what had been stolen from them in the first place.
And when, pray tell, will France return sovereignty to Burgundy?
So much for national sovereignty. It’s required by the law of the land, in other words by the Constitution, which CONSTITUTES sovereignty as mandatory, a rule that cannot be broken, at least without a constitutional amendment. But under the “living Constitution” so many things are optional now. And there’s been a whole lotta opting going on, starting about a century ago, accelerating in the 1930s, then even more in the 1960s and increasing in pace since.
What makes me gag is that we’re paying for this obtrusion, actually funding it, using our money against ourselves. Have been for decades now. Lawyers, ugh. Especially the “progressive” ones, which is to say most of them.
In Europe, they actually take findings by these unelected organizations seriously. The book “Sovereignty or Submission” is a real eye-opener regarding this transnational baloney. And regarding reparations, didn’t we have treaties with the various tribes?
Genuinely amusing comments. I took the time to link to and read Professor Anaya’s self-advertisement including his links. If Obama’s bio and scholarly legal output matched Ayana’s, Obama wouldn’t be an empty suit and I might respect him.
You can’t blame Anaya for trying to extort a billion dollars from the American taxpayers. Al Sharpton extorts money on behalf of oppressed minorities. So does Jesse Jackson who invented the “I’m ripping you off on behalf of oppressed people of color everywhere” racket. Important ministers and civil rights leaders like His Holiness, The Reverend Jeremiah Wright and The Honorable Reverend Louis Farrakhan are paid off through federal drug rehab and similar taxpayer funded poverty programs which these reverend gentlemen are expert at milking.
The Caesars bought off the Roman mob. We do likewise. The American taxpayer has been paying off slick African American extortionists on behalf of the “African American Community” for decades. Why begrudge Native Americans a ride on the gravy train? What’s a paltry billion dollars in the age of Obama?
As for Native Americans territorial claims on federal lands, why not? Our government doesn’t allow drilling. Maybe the Native American owners will. American environmentalists won’t easily dictate to Native Americans owners about the Native American Environment. Unrestricted gambling, cheap booze, tobacco and loco weed in a truly free Native Environment—some non-Native Americans might consider the loss of Federal sovereignty over large swaths of land a major net gain. If the Native Americans would consider long term leases, Americans yearning to be free might line up to rent acreage.
I say, let’s negotiate.
The UN could lead by example and leave the land they “occupy”. Perhaps they could find a home in Congo, Zimbabwe or Haiti.
Why not reset the entire world to maps 100 years old? In case the UN hasn’t noticed, there have been plenty of wars, “stolen” land, and even destroyed nations in that time. But let’s go ahead and do that. It’ll be fun.
As for Obama, this is the first I’ve heard about a $1 billion payment he wants to make to the Indians. That’s got to a trial balloon for reparations to blacks in his second term. I think they should look at how much these two groups have already received from the government and subtract it from any reparations.
Yes, let’s get going on the return of Harvard to the Wampanoag tribe of Massachusetts. I think the first order of business they will have, after they’ve taken their land back from the egg heads, is to try Elizabeth Warren for fraud against Native American peoples. Then let’s go down to Manhattan and give back the land to the Wappinger tribe. I’m sure they will make it their first order of business to throw all the Tyrants from the U.N. into the river.
Not a bad idea. Turning that land back into forest or farmland would be an improvement given how much damage Harvard Law and Business school grads have done to this country. For that matter, Harvard alone has an endowment far beyond what Obama is trying to hand out, so why not “nationalize” it, give the Indians double, and apply the rest to the debt.
The Wampanoags were considerably south of Cambridge in Southeastern Mass. and Rhode Island. The Massachusetts Indians, in one sub-group or another, would have been living on the shores of the Charles. Harvard did have some early Native-American students, including John Sassamon, whose murder by Phillip’s men and their subsequent execution set off King Phillip’s War. http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=132
Not that folks still aren’t going after the permits, but like much of the rest of the economy, casinos have fallen on hard times.
“But for purposes of UN business, the UN tells us, Anaya was “invited” to come to America on his UN Mission ”
Maybe Anaya lives on the reservation (a different country)and he was just “invited ” to leave the reservation.
On a different note, wasn’t it England, France and Spain who claimed (stole) most of the land that was later to become the United States? Why doesn’t the UN air its grievances against those countries?
Will the Indians be required to give the land back to the Kenniwick man’s people? Should the Mexicans give that land back to the Indians?
I am so utterly devoid of ideas about where to begin on this subject – there is so much wrong on so many levels when it comes to the UN Human Rights Commission that I’ve gone to a logical ending – ban the UN from these shores and resign from it. Withdraw from the rest of the world and tell them to go *&^% themselves. Let the door hit em in the ass too! Hell – I’ll hold the door for em.
The UN was based on US soil for one reason only – because we were the best chance the UN had to succeed without interference. Now that organization is biting the hand that feeds it (literally) – the one country with arguably the best track record on human rights in modern history.
What am I missing?
“Withdraw from the rest of the world and tell them to go *&^% themselves”
“What am I missing?”
not much– sounds good to me
I too see this a possible financial gain for the US citizen. One having dealt
with a couple of diffent tribes in my business, there is an Entrepenruial streak
running in some tribes. Take the Umatilla/Cayuse/Walla Walla.They are seriously considering a LPG terminal at the port of Umatilla in Oregon-for export. Nothing wrong with this and they can tell the Federales to stuff it..
I’d like to think my Cherokee Granma is looking down and smiling on this.
She never took a Twenty because of A.Jackson’s picture on it..
I really do not understand the lefty preoccupation with “indigenous” populations. As if people just sort of grew spontaneously in fixed locations, to remain so forever, in some sort of universal justice plan.
If you go back far enough nobody is really indigenous anywhere and there is no fixed geopolitical order. The process of migration and mixing of gene pools is increasing and will continue to do so.
Elizabeth Warren is really just evidence that our group identities are increasingly arbitrary. I have known a few people who were really unsure of their ancestry and just picked that to identify with because there was some Indian blood back there somewhere.
Exactly. I have about the same degree of Choctaw blood that Warren claims of Cherokee, and yet I do not identify myself as an Indian, because I wasn’t born or raised on Choctaw land, I don’t know any of my far distant Choctaw relatives, I don’t speak the language or know the customs, and the fact is, I never will. It was just an accident of birth, just like all my European genes.
Well, actually “Indian” as that word has legal and Constitutional meaning has a definition: you must be one quarter, i.e., one grandparent, Indian to get the Certificate of Degree of Indian Birth that qualifies you for Indian benefits under federal law. There has been considerable abuse in the form of tribal “adoptions” and such, and a whole bunch of fraud, particularly in Eastern “tribes” that to the extent they ever existed as tribes long ago were dispersed and ceased to exist. So, with less than a quarter, you can claim a Native American or Indian heritage if you want, but you can’t claim it for purposes of obtaining federal Indian benefits and you shouldn’t be able to claim it for Affirmative Action preferences. Frankly, for box checking purposes, anyone who self-identifies as a minority usually does so without question. Employers routinely ask for a DD214 from anyone claiming Veterans’ Preference, it doesn’t seem unreasonable to ask for a birth certificate, CDIB, or some such from anyone claiming minority preference or set aside, but then again, voter picture ID is racist.
This is the same B S some, not all Alaskan natives and far too many Alaskan native op-ed writers gripe of.
I recall an Alaskan op-ed ~ 2 years ago where the native author wrote of the most recent ‘atrocity’ of his village (the same village he left (fled because it was horrible. Grew tired of his MANY drunken uncles drinking the month’s supply of taxpayer provided booze in 1-2 days.. whatever) having great difficulties with their TAXPAYER PROVIDED chainsaws for their being too old and in need of constant repair.
The author also complained ‘his people’ have to walk miles in each direction to get drinkable water which is then carried, sleighed back.
Some of the questions I’d had for ‘his people’ (a shame he didn’t trademark ‘my people’ – he could have been earning some change when Eric Holder utters the same..) is to embrace their heritage and NOT use a chainsaw. For these modern ‘inconveniences’ are taking away/ skewing his people’s determination, historical significance.
I also asked if his village (~40 people) considered moving closer to the needed water source and/ or create an aqueduct. A mini Catskill/ Colorado River etc., type aqueduct?
Nope. The author’d written me back and like an Illiberal knee-jerk, provided nonsense as to why his people were ‘owed’ such niceties.
Life’s tough. Life’s tougher when you’re stupid.
Alaska has the worst of both worlds: the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA) corps and the remnants of the old federal Indian administration system. It is very clear that Alaska’s white and native leaders intended to end the federal system of dependent sovereigns and federal administration with ANCSA, but the BIA wouldn’t leave and give up its programs. Though the funding was paltry, Indian Self-determination Act grants and contracts going to IRA and traditional councils kept the federal Indian scheme alive here alongside the ANCSA scheme. The USSC said in the Venetie case that the only federal Indians in Alaska are those with a landbase tied specifically to that “tribe.” (The word “tribe” itself has no meaning in Alaska; there never was any organization larger than clans, even among the more organized Tlingit and Haida of SE Alaska. For that matter tribes is pretty much a white construct even in the Lower 48.) That means only Metlakatla and Arctic Village are federal Indian reservations and are populated by federal Indians since neither chose to particiapate in ANCSA.
But, the BIA, lefties, Democrats, sovereignty advocates, an overlapping group, have kept the federal “tribal” construct alive here for their own purposes. Thirty years ago, the breakdown was pretty simple; all the natives with something on the ball gravitated to the ANCSA corps and left the losers and drunks behind in the villages to live off the then-paltry ANCSA dividends and federal scraps. But the BIA and other feds kept subsidizing the losers who were then brought into the sovereignty movement. I worked as a temp for BIA back in the mid-80s; they suspened their Indian preference rules and hired me and another honky dog to go find $58 million they’d left laying around in the williches; $58MM was still a good bit of money in ’86. Self-determination Act money was keeping the IRA Village and Traditional Counsels alive and subsidizing the sovereignty movement. Back then, not even BIA would term Alaskan entities tribes and they were published in the Federal Register as Recognized Alaska Native Entities. Sometime in the Knowles/Clinton years, the USDOI began referring to them as tribes. That never should have happened.
Anyway, the net result is most of the ANCSA corps have become quite wealthy and own a lot of office buildings around Alaska and companies all over the US. Several of them pay very nice dividends to their members/shareholders, dividends that don’t count as income when testing eligibility for all the federal Indian programs like free healthcare, essentially free housing, state and federal fuel and electricity subsidies, free education, no taxes, etc. Yet with all the money that has been poured into rural Alaska by both the State and the federal governments, the villages are still cesspools of alcohol and drug abuse, sexual abuse, and a wastrel lifestyle that looks like poverty but in dollar terms the people are quite well off. I’ve long advocated that we should buy every resident of rural Alaska a $250,000.00 house in the location of their choice and send them a State paycheck of $100,000.00/yr. for life, and we’d save one Helluva lot of money.
One of my brothers in law is a full blooded native Inuit. I sent him the article from Drudge Report. His response? He was laughing his ass off as he responded – go ahead and give Alaska back to the natives – but be ready to have it go to hell in a hand-basket. I asked him if he ever thought of going back to Alaska – f–k no he retorted – all there is to do in Alaska is fish and drink – and “I’m no good at fishing”.
He gets an annual check from what he terms as ‘The Corporation’ amounting to anything from $500 to $6,500 depending on how well they do – or as he says “how much they manage to steal” from the corp. members. Other than occasional contact with family members he has nothing to do with anyone in Alaska. He doesn’t get any other benefits from being Inuit. There are some benefits available to him but he doesn’t see it as ‘fair’ – in his words.
He does very well for himself – working at Boeing is a pretty good living. He experiences NO racial bias from anyone at work or out in public or in business interactions – and says any Native Americans that do experience racial bias are probably imagining such things. His mother and two brothers have very similar views as he does. Like he says – if you want to experience racial bias try looking for it – you can always find what you’re looking for – even if you haven’t. In other words – imagination.
I like my brother in law.
Innuit usually refers to people of the Canadian Arctic. The people often referred to as Eskimos in Alaska are generally Inupiat on the Northwest and Arctic Coasts and Yupik on the lower West Coast south of the Seward Peninsula (Nome area)along the river deltas until on the Southwestern coast they begin to blend in with the Aleuts and up the rivers begin to blend with the Interior Athabascan Indians. It is a good question as to whether the Aleut truly are a separate people or whether they are really the result of interbreeding between Russians and Yupik Eskimos. Some people do, however, refer to all the aboriginal people of the Arctic as Innuit. They themselves have their own names for each individual clan or family unit, almost all of which translate to “the people” or “the people of” some place. Innuit or Inuit is the plural of Inuk, which means man, so Innuit is men or people. Like most hunter-gatherer people, each group considers itself to be “people” and all others are something other than people. We honky dogs definitely didn’t invent predjudice, bias, and discrimination; just get a Tlingit Indian from Southeast Alaska started on what he thinks of Yupiks, Aleuts, or even Haida, another group of SE Indians. Or get a Souix started on what he thinks of anybody who isn’t Souix.
The “discrimination” that a lot of Alaska Native people see has nothing to do with the fact that they’re Native. It has much to do with the fact that many of them have serious drug and alcohol, especially the latter, problems and many have a LOT of trouble with things like coming to work at a set time and on set days and accepting supervision. Alaska is still very much a working class state and many jobs require real physical work in unpleasant and often dangerous conditions. Alaska also has very expensive Workers Compensation, so it is almost impossible to get a job above the menial level, and not even many of them, unless you can pee in a bottle, don’t drink to excess, and can pass a background check for barrier crimes. Many jobs also require a CDL, TWIC, or other licensure with drug tests and background checks. State government goes out of its way to recruit and retain Alaska Natives, but lots of State jobs require drug testing, CDLs, TWICs, background checks, etc., and even those that don’t expect you to be there at the appointed time on the appointed days and do what you’re told. How many times I’ve dealt with the discipline or dismissal of an Alaska Native employee in one of the regional hubs like Bethel, Kotzebue, Barrow, or Dillingham because the employee just didn’t show up for some days and when they breezed back in like it was just the most natural thing in the world to disappear for days, it was always something about needing to hunt, fish, gather berries, or bird eggs, or some relative needed wood cut or something. The State goes out of its way to accommodate employees who really do need to hunt, fish, and gather food in the rural areas, and even those in the urban areas who just want to, but it does insist on your planning it with your supervisor and having your leave approved first. Of course, those expectations indicate a cultural or racial bias and the discipline or discharge is ALWAYS alleged to be discriminatory. Unfortunately, unless you can get those allegations to go away through dismissal of some sort or by a settlement, a jury anywhere but Anchorage and maybe Fairbanks or Juneau is going to give the complainant a large sum of cash no matter what the facts are. I was almost always willing to pony up six figures to avoid a jury anywhere other than Anchorage.
I can envision the ‘picking’, chopping’, ‘hunting’ ahem ‘reasons’ for native’s tardiness. I worked/ lived near Bethel (nautical mile-speaking) in nearby McGrath.. it too was, ‘The Bush’.
I can only imagine having to work with/ wait for the ‘native businessman’ from said villages, towns. What a logistical nightmare.
I’m sure your time there, no matter your age at that time, improved your ability to be calm, patient 10-fold!
Funny comments here!
Good idea. First raze those eye-sore buildings in Turtle Bay, return part of precious Manhattan Island to our countrymen, the Native Americans. They are more deserving and have more claims than those blood sucking morons now desecrating that land.
Well, what did we expect?
Meddling all over the world with the ” human rights” schtick to pressure and even change governments we don’t like with this holier-than-thou, font-of-compassion nonsense. Lo and behold, the blade has two edges. And now it’s being wielded by folks who are better at self-righteous hypocrisy than we ever could be.
Good luck putting THAT genie back in the bottle!
Dismantling of the Anglosphere by the Luo slave-raider.
Not Russian, Arabian, Persian, Chinese, or Communist imperialists, though.
Cool. The UN compelx in NYC can be converted into an Indian casino.
Let’s turn the entire federal government over to a tribal counsel. What do we have to lose?
Saudi Arabia should be giving the entire Med. basin oil for free as reparations for it’s enacting and inspiring military colonialism far before America existed.
The Turks should do likewise with reparations in some form, starting with declaring Istanbul an international open city. If the Turks had not closed off the East to the Europeans in 1453 by conquering Constantinople, the Europeans never would have paid Christopher Columbus and others money to find the New World as it turned out, only 40 years later. By no coincidence, the same year Spain kicked out the last of its conquering Islamic hoardes after a mere 7 centuries of incessant warfare.
And then there’s Mexico. Mandate a tech-free zone there up to the Rio Grande with U.N. military observers to make sure that culture is not polluted by completely sealing it off with a no-man’s land of razor wire and minefields. They can enjoy their age of Copper and human sacrifice, a far more civilized culture than today in any event. The Turks completely screwed over Indians up and down the line – time for them to pay.
Yes – the entire country of Pakistan must cease to exist and be given back to India. All arabs much leave every inch of the ME and head back to the Arabian Peninsula.
Obama’s position:
“I think that giving the Maldives back to the Lakotas is only fair.”
This is just one more example of the UN scapegoating the West. The U.S. is in the company of Canada as a target for UN aggression. Right now a UN hunger expert is coming to investigate Canada.
“That’s right. Despite dire food emergencies around the globe, De Schutter will be devoting the scarce time and resources of the international community on an 11-day tour of Canada—a country that ranks at the bottom of global hunger concerns….
Hunger is a human rights issue. Tragically, what most interests De Schutter and his council is scapegoating the West. For the next two weeks, that means Canada.”
The U.S. has done more to promote and protect freedom and human rights than any other country. Nevertheless, the UN pretends to believe that all misery on the planet is caused by rich Western countries. The UN is determined to make them, and especially the U.S and Canada, scapegoats for all the opression and misery caused by the world’s most repressive regimes like N. Korea, China, Syria, Cuba, Iran etc etc.
Don’t be fooled. The whole point of this is to squeeze yet more money out of the West. Not that any of it would actually go to all those poor, abused, “indigenous” peoples.
Yeah! We ethnically cleansed them and stole their land fair and square!
Down with USA imperialism !
Let’s give Europe back to the Nazis ! Nope, to the Roman Empire !
China back to the Emperor of Japan !
Russia to the Mongols !
Back in the Reagan era I was for a time enlisted Army and TDY in Munich. One night, out drinking with fellow soldiers there, we were accosted by a Bavarian in full Black Forest regalia (including ZZ Topp beard) about how we had “stolen” our lands from the Indians and needed to give it back. I told him that was fine–that we Euro-Americans would then move back over HERE (to Germany) and he and his Volk could move back to the steppes, where they’d come from. He didn’t like that idea much. Likewise, when I taught college world history, students (yes, mostly public school products) were always amazed to discover that almost no group of people on the planet lived still live where they had originated. I eagerly await a UN investigator to ascertain how and when the Turks are going to move back to Central Asia and the North African Arabs to Arabia.
I’m in SE Asia presently and as I’m sure youre accustomed to with your traveling acumen, I’m often asked for an opening greeting, ‘Where are you from’?
Or, ‘Are you English/ Australian/ Irish’ etc.,?
Now I only respond with, ‘Pangea’. It’s either a conversation-ender or a chuckle ensues.
I suggest we return the parcel the UN building sets on first.
I say we keep the land as part of the US and justify this as reparations against the Indians’ having given us tobacco!
…let’s start with the ample patch of midtown Manhattan that currently houses the headquarters of the United Nations.
Amen! Also, I think all the native Christian, Buddhist, and animist people of Asia and the Middle East deserve to get their land back from the Muslim Arabs.
And the Persian Muslims should surrender their land in favor of the Zoroastrians!
Free Constantinople! Liberate Byzantium from the Turks!
I want land reparations in Ireland for the land that my ancestors were starved off from thanks to Malthusian social engineers.
I wouldn’t mind some ancestral land in Scotland, those bloody English!
I am not necessarily against this if we give them national parks or other undeveloped land. I always thought the adirondacks would be really cool if they were developed. Maybe the native americans would be interested in creating a free city. It could be a great experiment. The only problem is with the UN involved it is likely to be overregulated and bound to fail. If they were allowed true sovereignty it would be interesting to see what develops. It couldn’t be worse than a useless empty space or a downtrodden reservation. While we are at it, why don’t we give a national park to the Occupy movement. If they could really come together and build a new city from scratch, it would be a benefit to our society, civilation, and culture. It would be a good way to funnel their youthful energy into something positive and they would shed their entitlement attitudes quickly and learn hands on what it takes for civilization to flourish.
Civilization
You could give the Garden of Eden to the people who live on Pine Ridge and Rosebud Reservations and it a few years the Garden of Eden would look like Pine Ridge and Rosebud Reservations. The people who live on the Res know how to live on the Res, and that’s about all they know – or want to know.
Recent finds in Texas indicate pre-Clovis people were (perhaps) the first to inhabit North America.
I suggest we return the land to them. Oh, wait …
Give England back to the Celts. Down with PC Prince Charles!!!
There is not a square inch of land that did not formerly belong to someone else.
The UN only speaks out against predominantly caucasian societies like Israel and the United States.
I’ll agree with the “down with Prince Charles”…any royal in Brit-land named Charles is bad news. But I suggest once England is given over to the Celts, it be immediately reclaimed from them and given to the Stonehenge People…
It would be a hands on learning environment of anthropology, sociology, and economics. They would learn about human nature. Perhaps they would finally come to understand and appreciate civilization. Unless they want to depend on rice drops to feed themselves, they would quickly learn that food does not grow itself and things like plumbing and electricity are miracles. They may even grow to appreciate capitalism. Life might not be as cool without a Starbucks and a Whole Foods down the street.
If the U.S., Canada, and Mexico were to give Indian land back, we would have to evacuate most of the continent. Any recommendations where we should go?
Shut up and get in the boxcar!
I have long thought it would be a good idea to return large tracts of federally owned land in the West to Indians. I am referring to BLM administered land that is not being used for much. Under Indian ownership it might be easier to get grazing leases and mining leases under which the new (old) owners would derive some income. They would likely even graze it with their own herds and otherwise develope it as they see fit. If someone can tell me why it shouldn’t be done, I would like to hear it.
I agree. The fairy tale native americans like Elizabeth Warren think it will be magically transformed into utopia. The rainbow prophesy types see it as a way to save the ravaged earth. The real native americans would probably develop it and utilize the resources of the land. I think it would be a great experiment. As it is, the land sits beautiful but uncivilized. Would they build new civilization? Let’s give it to them.
Unless we actually give it to them rather than add to the Indian Trust Lands that are controlled by the US Government then we will be in the same sorry state as we are now. Indians have lots of trust lands but can’t do diddly with them. Banks won’t loan money’s to build business because if the business fails they can’t enter Indian land and repossess anything. The government literally keeps Indian Tribes as indentured servants.
Do you have any notion of how many government bureaucrats would essentially have their positions abolished if that was done? To the Progressive mindset that is reason enough.
In other news NY demands that the UN repatriate the millions of dollars in parking tickets they never seem to be able to pay while galavanting about on one or another excursion funded by the backs of their citizens.
This crap never ends.
The UN hasn’t done a thing right in all my years on this earth. They elected a who’s-who gallery of despots for the human rights council. I’m not exactly listening to any opinion that seeps out of that odious lair of nefarious villany.
Defund them and kick them out as well. I’m tired of these criminal bureacrats.
Let’s see, Indians lived in the stone age in a state of constant warfare and barbarism and then Europeans came and allowed them to be citizens of a modern democratic republic. Is that the right narrative?
So, does that mean it’s now cool for the American government to offer to return all Afro-Americans back to Africa, free of charge, to enjoy their ancestral lands? Didn’t Lincoln consider such a generous program before the American Civil War? And all those white Hispanics, south of the border, currently ruling Mexico, should go back to Spain, free of charge too? Surely the French in Canada could go back to France? (The French Revolution and the political beheadings ended a long time ago) And returning to one’s ethnic geographic roots goes without saying for Yankees, white Muslims, and Jews too. Then we have the Greeks, the Indians, the Poles, the Germans…..
I am 1/103544 Kakapo. Will the UN pay for my house?
I admit that my cheek bones are kind of iffy.
This HAS to be satirical. No one could take this seriously.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME THAT THIS IS SATIRE!!!!!!
There ain’t no Native Americans to give the land to.
There was a really nice piece of real estate across the big pond from Europe. An Italian guy Amerigo who had never been to this piece of land somehow finagled some people to call the land after him. When the Europeans arrived, they found some people already resided there. These people came from Asia across the Bering Straits. The new comers fought genocidal wars against the old comers who had won their own genocidal wars against older comers. The Pale Face squatters boxed the Red Face squatters in reservations.
There were never natives in this land. Ergo, there are no natives to whom to return the land. As they say, finders keepers, winners take all, whatever,…, we’ll keep the land.
Put aside the absurdity of the idea. Do they honestly think we would return land with all the improvements made to it in the last 200 yrs? They would get it back the way we found it…barren. Let’s face it…the only improvements Indians have made on their lands are to put up big ugly Casino’s. I’m married to an American Indian, and he agrees.
Yes, Elizabeth Warren and “Iron Eyes Cody”, AKA Espera Oscar de Corti, the son of Sicilian immigrants, are the perfect counterparts. Except that Warren might actually have a few drops of Indian blood, although she can’t quite prove it.
OK, where do I go?? I am a typical American mutt, some French, German, Canadian and a spot of Cree Indian! So where do I go if we give the country back?? Maybe become a wandering European gypsy? Wait I thing gypsy is politically incorrect. I think the UN should do us all a favor and set up for business in Switzerland or the low countries, get out of the US and make another country deal with this horse manure!
What do you call 1000 lawyers chained together, with hundred pound leg weights, and thrown into the ocean????
From where I sit a good start.
As to the United Nations, we should kick them out of New York, and let then have so land in a deserted area that would be strictly the United Nations, dorms, and some conveniences stores. Bet they wouldn’t be wasting so much time and energy and causing so much grief. Maybe place the UN in someplace that is a hot bed of good ideas and social justice, like Mecca, and wouldn’t that be fun when delegations with Christians and Jews would not be allowed to attend.
How about next we give back all the land of Israel to the Jewish people who had it back in times predating the Romans.
How about Brazil going back to natives, or Australia.
Doesn’t anyone get tired of these Bozos meddling with their PC titles and tenured positions that we pay for.
Get rid of them, and let them go and try to earn an honest living.
Better yet, for all the blacks in Africa that sold their brethren into slavery, let’s give them back their lands.
Hey, this sounds like a great idea. ALL of North and South America should be given to the Tierra del Fuegans. Let’s see, all of Africa should be given to Lucy’s family. All of the Middle East should go to, hmmm? I guess the Babylonians. All of Europe to the Druids. Asia? That’s a tossup. Maybe, the Dravidians. Australia, that one’s easy. It’s probably going to be hard to sort out Indonesia and all those islands in the Pacific, but I’m sure the League of Nations is up to it — they’ve done such a great job of bringing peace wherever they go. Oh, wait a minute, that didn’t work so well. On the other hand, it worked as well as the U. N. didn’t it?
yeah a payout to anybody and everybody who hates America is o-barry’s forte. he is out to destroy us, that 2 week nobel peace prize winner, w/ payout.
btw, if you want to get an idea of our kenyan’s idea of fairness on payouts, check out the ‘pigford’ fraud.
background: a couple hundred black farmers filed suit against the federal government for discrimination in obtaining farm loans. according to the u.s. census bureau thee has never been more than 15-20k black farmers in the u.s., ever; and, that was a long time ago, much less now a days. however, when the final payout happened there were closing on 100k recipients of anywhere from a few thousand $$ to million$. the lawyers involved were obama and sen. bishop.
i believe the final total payout had billion $$ behind it as well. hard to find truthful and curent info. on it. hint hint bloggers.
Whoo-While we’re getting rid of the UN, let’s give harvard back to Squanto. lizzie warren can administer it.
On behalf of the Australopithecus people, of which I claim 0.000001 membership, may I suggest you Neanderthals get off your high horse and go back where you came from and take the Cro-magnons with you. We’ll talk about compensation at the next General Assembly meeting between condemnations of Israel.
How about–quite seriously–Indonesia returning West New Guinea to its native inhabitants. Turkey returning Northern Cyprus to the Greeks. China pulling all its colonists out of Tibet and Inner Mongolia. And Russia can return the Kurils to Japan, and the Kaliningrad Enclave to……somebody.
Recommend we support this effort with presenting the UN Building in New York to the Native Americans to establish a casino. The members of the UN can go back home and answer to their own people.
When he was drawing his full time public professor salary and benefits from the U of Arizona, how much duplicate full time pay was he pulling from the Obama Administration as the UN envoy and benefits and travel perks and presumptively entourage compensation?
Public pay is publc pay, and both fulltime positions are public, so the public really should know which job he is being paid to do fulltime and how much he is costing the US taxpayer to inspect the US for Obama and the United Nations.
Most, here, consider this comical, ironic, absurd; I see danger. America has evolved academic centers which produce supposedly educated people who hold ideologies aimed at the destruction of our nation. They continually seek power, and have obtained it, with basic views: America is evil, particularly corporations. They stand on a higher moral ground. They will dictate their view of goodness to the unwashed masses. And they hold these beliefs due to a very narrow educational experience, wherein dissent is forbidden.
They are not irrational on a survival mode. If they attempted a similar coup d’etat in most nations, they would be murdered by the regime. Hence they gravitate to the US, particularly our regulatory and legal systems. You never find them in any industry that makes things or grows food. They have zero interest in making a bigger pie for all. They seek to control the relative size of the slices, even if their conduct shrinks the pie to a morsel.
By induction, I judge they have zero understanding of costs, risks, and the motivating power of personally earned wealth. The recently exposed EPA executive who spoke his heart felt drive to crucify those in private industry so as to subjugate them, and this US paid, UN lawyer hold identical personal philosophies. In the name of goodness they seek to be our masters. It is the same mind set the Nazis held as they governed. The common danger is a unchecked centralized governmental power. It aint funny.
Oh Hell, Just send UN blue helmets to America the blue makes such a good target for our son’s to practice marksmanship on. Besides Deer season is months away and Turkey season is over.
I’d love to see the UN get it’s ass handed to it without American money, aid and support.
Now if England can give me redress for the Highland clearances I will be happy!
That’s rich.
Tell me again, how much money did the BIA rip off from the tribes under their “care”? Several billion, wasn’t it?
The only thing that is lacking at the United Nations is a sense of irony. This organization establishes human rights commissions seating some of the world’s greatest human rights violators. They steal the wealth of America and redistribute it to their own corrupt governments all the while complaining that America is a den of thieves. They now insist that we return lands to peoples who stole them from earlier descendants. The only thing dumber is that America continues to fund and host this corrupt organization of meddling fools. When will it end?