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Shocked! Shocked! by the Axis of Chemical Weapons

August 22nd, 2013 - 1:47 am

As for the UN, which, courtesy of the Assad regime, has a team of chemical weapons experts inside Syria right now, Roger Simon is quite correct that they are perforce puttering around, with no freedom to go when or where or how they might choose. Actually, it’s even worse than that. According to a spokesperson for the UN secretary-general, these inspectors have been tasked to determine if chemical weapons were used. But they have no mandate to determine who used them. (It’s an approach reminiscent of the UN Security Council’s absurd decision in 2010, after North Korea torpedoed and sank a South Korean frigate, to blame not North Korea, but the torpedo).

If the Assad regime is allowed to carry on with chemical weapons attacks, or even if it is simply perceived worldwide as having done so, the damage will go way beyond the horrors inside Syria. The message to other rogue regimes is that chemical weapons are no longer utterly taboo. They may be used (and tested in the process), at least at home, with relative impunity. The current rules of the game are that the UN will respond with an investigation that is impotent, and the U.S. will respond with investigations that are effectively irrelevant, because they don’t translate into policy or action that makes any serious difference.

That is an enormously dangerous message to send to Syria’s chief partners in proliferation: Iran and North Korea. Perhaps, while all the investigating is going on, the investigators should take a close look at North Korea’s intimate connections to Syria’s chemical weapons program, and tell us all a lot more about what’s really going on with this axis of poison gas, and what might be done. More on this scene in my article on “North Korean-Syrian Chemistry: The Weapons Connections.”

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image illustration courtesy shutterstock / Sergey Nivens

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The crux of the matter is by what right do we have to interfere and intervene in the internal affairs of another nation, be it in the Middle East, in Asia, in Africa, or in Europe. We have our own matters to attend to in this country. The UN has no legal mandate to do anything, nor does the US - if we must talk legality.

Should the US welcome UN or Russian intervention when American cities go to blazes like Detroit has and Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and even Washington, DC itself threaten to do?

Let's quit kidding ourselves, we are not all part of a world order - All for one and one for all romantic tripe. Let the Syrians do their business to each other as long as it does not impinge on any other nation's sovereignty. If it does, then let that nation take action.

We do not need another distraction from what ails our own nation.
48 weeks ago
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"Is anyone serious about actually stopping the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons?"


Well, first we need some reason to believe that he actually did use chemical weapons.


Second, we need some reason to believe it's our business.


NEITHER side in this is wearing a white hat, and NEITHER side is ever going to be a friend to the U.S.
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"Is anyone serious about actually stopping the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons?"

Not me. I think there has been quite enough of intervening in fights between Muslims. Both sides hate us anyway. And who says Assad has used chemical weapons anyway? An honest person in government? An honest person at the UN? Why do you think they have suddenly turned honest now?
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All of the agitprop that I have viewed makes me seriously question whether Sarin was employed by ANY party.

All of the photos on the Web show unprotected parties burying the dead per Islamic rites -- within 24 hours of death.

That's a physical impossibility for victims of Sarin -- or ANY other Nerve gas.

For starters: Nerve gases are not gases -- they are OILS -- distributed as aerosols by explosive charges.

We've all used bug spray. It's the same stuff -- just not tuned for our biology -- but for the bugs. The oil is spread as a mist/ aerosol by gaseous propellants in the spray can. Afterwards, a residue is left that lingers for days and days and days. It's in the nature of the insecticide.

Well, nerve agents are nothing but 'humanicides' -- with all of the same properties -- like persistence. They don't flow and blow like gases. They're too heavy.

Which brings us to the clothing and skin of the victims. It's ALWAYS too toxic for unprotected parties to give first aid or to bury the dead. Sarin (and kin) are so nasty that even trace amounts can kill. (No, you don't drop dead in seconds. It's a slow kill.)

And then, there's the utter lack of nerve agent signatures. The dead are not contorted in muscle spasms. Are we to believe that morticians rushed forward, within minutes, to align the corpses straight so that they might lie neatly?

Islamic ritual (washing of the dead) would guarantee that nerve agents would pass on -- killing the unprotected party. The laws of chemistry and physics can't be set aside.

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Many agitprop photos show that the 'victims' have been laid down before even attaining rigor mortis.

What do you bet that these 'dead' are clowns practicing Pallywood?

I'm seeing an awful lot of military age males in the pictures. Did they really die of nerve agent -- or simple military reverses?

Both sides are pathological liars. What can you expect: they're at war.

There is every reason to believe that AQ/ al Nusra is behind any chemical release. They've been in possession of suitable chemicals for quite some time.

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In sum: it's VERY dubious that nerve agents have been employed. Period, stop.

IF chemical warfare has been employed -- it's an odds on bet that al Nusra is the perp -- and that ordinary poisons have been employed. There are so many to choose from -- and can be sourced from KSA chemical plants and ordinary commerce.

Phosgene is produced everywhere on a massive scale. It's an intermediate used in the production of polycarbonates -- as in CDs. While not normally shipped around the countryside, it is still available for laboratory scale experimentation. The cannisters used would be similar to those photographed and uploaded to the Web by jihadi fanatics associated with the FSA/ al Nusra. These cannisters vaguely resemble Freon bottles widely used for refrigeration/ RV propane tanks.

Phosgene is truly a gas, whose toxicity and effects would entirely explain the trauma of the dead. It leaves no exterior marks, nor massive distortion of the dead. It destroys breathing function. It's also lethal as hell. So much so that it's normally produced exactly where it's needed -- to avoid transport risks and evil diversions.

There are endless other gaseous toxic compounds -- all produced massively -- that have similar properties. These would also be readily available from the chemical works of KSA -- or anywhere else.

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There is an account claiming that Israel had real time communications intercepts revealing that Assad's minions authorized Sarin release.

But any such intel would be kept secret under the highest classification. Even the ability to listen in must be of the greatest secrecy.

Since the chemical just CAN'T be Sarin - - what does that say about the veracity of the German expose?

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Can it be that Israel is inviting America to dance with the IRGC, al Quds, and the Hez under false pretenses?

It's a risky play, but a rational choice. For, at the end of that road, America must come to Tehran. Her nuclear program is an existential threat to Jerusalem. In which case, extreme gambits may be employed, the best of a lousy option set.

Having France, Britain and America zap Assad's air defense is just too juicy for Jerusalem to pass up. With its absence, drones (IDF) would have total sway over Syria, Air route to Iran would be opened up.

(Iraq has no air force. Maliki can only bluster.)

47 weeks ago
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The issue that needs to be resolved in Syria is this: How to regularize the process of terrorist-sponsoring states disintegrating into chemical-weapon induced killing fields.

How can we prompt Iran into ending up like Syria?
47 weeks ago
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Shocked? Really? WHY?

This is how muslims behave. It is how they have behaved for thousands of years. There is no chance that they will ever behave differently.

Being shocked about this indicates a severe emotional overreaction.

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The only interesting and noteworthy part of the Syrian civil war is 24/7 news coverage. What has going on in Syria has been going on in the Muslim world for thousands of years in thousands of places in thousands of incidents.

To even think the US should get involved indicates a profound ignorance of the history of Islam.
47 weeks ago
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We are NOT the world's "policeman." Taking sides in Middle East conflicts is largely a hopeless endeavor. There is no "good" or "bad" - They all behave like subhumans.
47 weeks ago
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WHO Is Delaying Release of Iraqi Birth Defect Data? By Kelley B. Vlahos, August 20, 2013

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-delaying-release-of-iraqi-birth-defect-data/5346412
47 weeks ago
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We need to investigate and find out which side in Syria used chemical weapons.

And then we need to supply the other side with them.
47 weeks ago
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If my choice is between what the Russians say and what NPR and the WaPo says, I'm inclined to believe the Russians.

Given that we're talking about a culture that uses children to clear mine fields and encourages suicide bombers, it's not unreasonable that the "Rebels" aka islmasists did this against their own civilians as a false flag operation.
47 weeks ago
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Quite frankly, I could give a rat fart about Syria. Not our problem, we have no business getting involved.
47 weeks ago
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memory lane
" As early as April 1987, the Iraqis used chemical weapons to remove Kurds from their villages in northern Iraq during the Anfal campaign. It is estimated that chemical weapons were used on approximately 40 Kurdish villages, with the largest of these attacks occurring on March 16, 1988 against the Kurdish town of Halabja.

Beginning in the morning on March 16, 1988 and continuing all night, the Iraqis rained down volley after volley of bombs filled with a deadly mixture of mustard gas and nerve agents on Halabja. Immediate effects of the chemicals included blindness, vomiting, blisters, convulsions, and asphyxiation. Approximately 5,000 women, men, and children died within days of the attacks. Long-term effects included permanent blindness, cancer, and birth defects. An estimated 10,000 lived, but live daily with the disfigurement and sicknesses from the chemical weapons.

Saddam Hussein's cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid was directly in charge of the chemical attacks against the Kurds, earning him the epithet, "Chemical Ali."
47 weeks ago
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Bear in mind President Reagan gave his speech on Iran /contra in march of 1987 Dukasis put on helmet for tank ride paving the way for GHWB to become President and stop Saddam in 1990
We have a worse political mess in USA and does this mean we must wait for Hillary to be president to stop Assad?
No ! Just defeat the wacko part of the GOP in the 2014 election and prepare for a stronger GOP voice that reject the isolationist
Ask why America should be considered exceptional . Does USA have God's blessing or not?
Kill two birds with one stone and defeat the atheists
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