Comments on: Or Maybe He Should Share It With Hugo Chavez… http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:35:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brian http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-112 Brian Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:37:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-112 Power line notes <a href="http://powerlineblog.com/archives/015336.php" rel="nofollow">this</a>: "There is nothing surprising, of course, about the secular socialist from Venezuela making common cause with religious fanatics from halfway around the world. Tyrants have always worked together when it suits their purposes; they always understand one another, since they are more or less alike." . . . which should put to rest the notion that secular facists couldn't possibly make common cause with religious zealots, an assertion that once was made to persuade us that there could be no connection between Saddam and al Qaeda. Oh well . . . Brian Power line notes this:

“There is nothing surprising, of course, about the secular socialist from Venezuela making common cause with religious fanatics from halfway around the world. Tyrants have always worked together when it suits their purposes; they always understand one another, since they are more or less alike.”

. . . which should put to rest the notion that secular facists couldn’t possibly make common cause with religious zealots, an assertion that once was made to persuade us that there could be no connection between Saddam and al Qaeda.

Oh well . . .

Brian

]]> By: Iceberg http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-111 Iceberg Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:12:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-111 Echoing Buddy, Tom, and Civitas above, thank you so much for the spadework you've been doing on the train wreck at Turtle Bay, Claudia. What may be as disturbing an aspect as any with respect to these issues is that we've needed to rely on you for the scoop because so few columnists and reporters working within the legacy media are tackling these subjects, or, if they are, they're being spiked by their editors. I've yet to hear or see any categorical condemnation within MSM for either Chavez' or Ahmadinejad's remarks, or for Sec.-Gen. Annan's gratuitous suck-ups to both. Of course, all three are consistantly on-message with MSM's editorial policies, which generally, I hardly need reiterate, are reflective of a deeper hatred of Bush ("Satan") than of any wish for a strong and soverign U.S. 'Berg Echoing Buddy, Tom, and Civitas above, thank you so much for the spadework you’ve been doing on the train wreck at Turtle Bay, Claudia. What may be as disturbing an aspect as any with respect to these issues is that we’ve needed to rely on you for the scoop because so few columnists and reporters working within the legacy media are tackling these subjects, or, if they are, they’re being spiked by their editors.

I’ve yet to hear or see any categorical condemnation within MSM for either Chavez’ or Ahmadinejad’s remarks, or for Sec.-Gen. Annan’s gratuitous suck-ups to both. Of course, all three are consistantly on-message with MSM’s editorial policies, which generally, I hardly need reiterate, are reflective of a deeper hatred of Bush (“Satan”) than of any wish for a strong and soverign U.S.

‘Berg

]]> By: tyree http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-110 tyree Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:44:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-110 The Pope makes a speech and gets marked for death. Hugo Chavez makes a speech and gets applause. I can't wait for a good writer to compare and contrast what that means. The Pope makes a speech and gets marked for death. Hugo Chavez makes a speech and gets applause. I can’t wait for a good writer to compare and contrast what that means.

]]> By: Civitas http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-109 Civitas Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:40:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-109 Let me echo Buddy Larsen. Your coverage of the UN's moral and operational collapse is a signal contribution to the current discourse and the historical record. In "The Shield of Achilles" Philip Bobbit argues (to me, quite persuasively) that the State is evolving from "nation-state" to "market-state" and that the legitimating narratives and rules of play within and between states are changing quickly and drastically. I think we all feel the old world passing away; and with it will pass the inter-State arrangements for stability such as the UN. Ever since the rape of Srebenica (and for those able and willing to watch, well before that) the UN has been obviously moribund. Its failure of vision and will, and its self-serving corruption of the moral vocabulary, have only grown more toxic. Not only does it not produce good, not only does it dissipate energies that a better system could better use; it also actively shelters and furthers genocidal tyrannies and dead-end kleptocracies that have taken the form and expect the privileges of sovereign nations in an unsustainable masquerade paid for by the few liberal democracies on which they heap abuse. You are helping us all to see and remember this clearly. We will need that clarity as the State struggles toward a new relationship with its citizens and its neighbors. Chavez and Ahmedinijad represent the necrotic form of the old nation-state. Let us hope they do not stand for the form in which, or with which, the market-state will emerge. Let me echo Buddy Larsen. Your coverage of the UN’s moral and operational collapse is a signal contribution to the current discourse and the historical record. In “The Shield of Achilles” Philip Bobbit argues (to me, quite persuasively) that the State is evolving from “nation-state” to “market-state” and that the legitimating narratives and rules of play within and between states are changing quickly and drastically. I think we all feel the old world passing away; and with it will pass the inter-State arrangements for stability such as the UN. Ever since the rape of Srebenica (and for those able and willing to watch, well before that) the UN has been obviously moribund. Its failure of vision and will, and its self-serving corruption of the moral vocabulary, have only grown more toxic. Not only does it not produce good, not only does it dissipate energies that a better system could better use; it also actively shelters and furthers genocidal tyrannies and dead-end kleptocracies that have taken the form and expect the privileges of sovereign nations in an unsustainable masquerade paid for by the few liberal democracies on which they heap abuse. You are helping us all to see and remember this clearly. We will need that clarity as the State struggles toward a new relationship with its citizens and its neighbors. Chavez and Ahmedinijad represent the necrotic form of the old nation-state. Let us hope they do not stand for the form in which, or with which, the market-state will emerge.

]]> By: dustydog http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-108 dustydog Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:51:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-108 This speech will get him a nobel peace prize. This speech will get him a nobel peace prize.

]]> By: Patrick Carroll http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-107 Patrick Carroll Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:46:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-107 Well, the PM of Thailand just got ousted in a blodless coup. Maybe that's the way to go: every time the baddies come to the UN, we go into some random kleptocracy and rearrange the chairs. Soon, we wouldn't have any baddies coming to the UN. (Ah, dreams.) Well, the PM of Thailand just got ousted in a blodless coup.

Maybe that’s the way to go: every time the baddies come to the UN, we go into some random kleptocracy and rearrange the chairs.

Soon, we wouldn’t have any baddies coming to the UN.

(Ah, dreams.)

]]> By: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-106 Tom Grey - Liberty Dad Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:53:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-106 Like Buddy, I thank you, Claudia, you're doing great. What the world needs, but isn't quite ready for, is a World Cop. An organization ready to use force against governments that violate their people's Human Rights -- especially those of Free Speech and Free Religion. Such a World Cop could only be composed of democracies that did NOT violate these rights. I wish the US could get India, Japan, the EU, and other democracies to join together in a Human Rights Enforcement Group. And, first of all, stop the genocide in Darfur. By force. Without the Sudanese government's permission. Like Buddy, I thank you, Claudia, you’re doing great.

What the world needs, but isn’t quite ready for, is a World Cop. An organization ready to use force against governments that violate their people’s Human Rights — especially those of Free Speech and Free Religion.

Such a World Cop could only be composed of democracies that did NOT violate these rights.

I wish the US could get India, Japan, the EU, and other democracies to join together in a Human Rights Enforcement Group.

And, first of all, stop the genocide in Darfur. By force. Without the Sudanese government’s permission.

]]> By: j http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-105 j Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:07:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-105 .blink. "even" jon stewart? anyway, since you're getting instalanched anyway, if you get time, please post some of the points from the speech here, please. thanks. .blink. “even” jon stewart?

anyway, since you’re getting instalanched anyway, if you get time, please post some of the points from the speech here, please.

thanks.

]]> By: Kiril, The Cycling Dude http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-104 Kiril, The Cycling Dude Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:50:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-104 What a great observation about the UN! ;-D What a great observation about the UN! ;-D

]]> By: Davod http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/or_maybe_he_should_share_it_wi/#comment-103 Davod Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:05:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/2006/09/20/or-maybe-he-should-share-it-with-hugo-chavez/#comment-103 They just do not understand us. If only the US would sit down and talk one on one with these people all would be well in the world. They just do not understand us. If only the US would sit down and talk one on one with these people all would be well in the world.

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