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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with your take on Saddam&#039;s execution is that you conflate Saddam&#039;s deserving execution, with the way it was carried out, with the implications of how it was carried out.

No doubt Saddam deserved to die.  There&#039;s very little dissent about that.

There is some dissent over the taunting atmosphere over which he was hanged.  Even the war criminals from Germany and Japan, even Eichmann in Israel, were hanged with greater dignity than this.  To pretend it doesn&#039;t matter is, frankly, self-demeaning.  Of course, people are entitled to demean themselves if they feel the ideological necessity of doing so.

On the other hand, there can be little argument about what the cellphone video indicates.  It indicates that the Shi&#039;ite sectarians are in charge of Iraq, that they violated their own constitution and slapped the Sunni minority in the face, and that they also slapped the US in the face, by conducting this execution literally in the name of Moqtada Al Sadr, who, in case you forgot, has American blood on his hands.

So the upshot of our invasion and overthrow of Saddam Hussein is to turn Iraq over to a bunch of Islamic fanatics.  The United States of America brought this about, we have handed Iraq to the Mullahs of Iran on a plate, and we have, once again, sullied our national honor by our association with this execution.  Just great.

Nor is this the position of the left alone, like, say, the New York Times or Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post.  It is also the position of numerous war supporters, including, so far, Christopher Hitchens, Tom Friedman, Jim Hoagland, and Charles Krauthammer.  It&#039;s fair to say that there is broad consensus on both sides of the political spectrum that the execution, as it was carried out, was a disgrace and a potential disaster.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with your take on Saddam&#8217;s execution is that you conflate Saddam&#8217;s deserving execution, with the way it was carried out, with the implications of how it was carried out.</p>
<p>No doubt Saddam deserved to die.  There&#8217;s very little dissent about that.</p>
<p>There is some dissent over the taunting atmosphere over which he was hanged.  Even the war criminals from Germany and Japan, even Eichmann in Israel, were hanged with greater dignity than this.  To pretend it doesn&#8217;t matter is, frankly, self-demeaning.  Of course, people are entitled to demean themselves if they feel the ideological necessity of doing so.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there can be little argument about what the cellphone video indicates.  It indicates that the Shi&#8217;ite sectarians are in charge of Iraq, that they violated their own constitution and slapped the Sunni minority in the face, and that they also slapped the US in the face, by conducting this execution literally in the name of Moqtada Al Sadr, who, in case you forgot, has American blood on his hands.</p>
<p>So the upshot of our invasion and overthrow of Saddam Hussein is to turn Iraq over to a bunch of Islamic fanatics.  The United States of America brought this about, we have handed Iraq to the Mullahs of Iran on a plate, and we have, once again, sullied our national honor by our association with this execution.  Just great.</p>
<p>Nor is this the position of the left alone, like, say, the New York Times or Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post.  It is also the position of numerous war supporters, including, so far, Christopher Hitchens, Tom Friedman, Jim Hoagland, and Charles Krauthammer.  It&#8217;s fair to say that there is broad consensus on both sides of the political spectrum that the execution, as it was carried out, was a disgrace and a potential disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: kw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what do you mean by dragging Oprah&#039;s name into this mess.  It was started by American politics, funding Saddam.  You insult the good works of Oprah.  What are you doing?  Name dropping...  Yes, Saddam was not a good person, but the second Bush was only duplicating what his father did.  Yeah, Bush the first was a war hero... not really, because they exposed the film where he was supposedly picked up after being shot down as not really him.  Bush the second was mad that Saddam made an attempt on his pappy&#039;s life and was ready to go to war on any pretense.  They even showed how Powell got roped in.  And the rest of them, including Condesending Rice had to admit that they were not telling the truth.  You need to get it straight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what do you mean by dragging Oprah&#8217;s name into this mess.  It was started by American politics, funding Saddam.  You insult the good works of Oprah.  What are you doing?  Name dropping&#8230;  Yes, Saddam was not a good person, but the second Bush was only duplicating what his father did.  Yeah, Bush the first was a war hero&#8230; not really, because they exposed the film where he was supposedly picked up after being shot down as not really him.  Bush the second was mad that Saddam made an attempt on his pappy&#8217;s life and was ready to go to war on any pretense.  They even showed how Powell got roped in.  And the rest of them, including Condesending Rice had to admit that they were not telling the truth.  You need to get it straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Sissy Willis</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/oprah_for_tyrants/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Sissy Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I blogged the other day:

&lt;i&gt;For the left, Saddam&#039;s hanging is -- like everything else that comes down the pike -- just one more Bush-bashing opportunity. For the rest of us -- especially the Iraqis who suffered the tyrant&#039;s jackboot first hand -- his execution re-establishes the right order of things.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2007/01/mercy_for_the_g.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the innocent&quot;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I blogged the other day:</p>
<p><i>For the left, Saddam&#8217;s hanging is &#8212; like everything else that comes down the pike &#8212; just one more Bush-bashing opportunity. For the rest of us &#8212; especially the Iraqis who suffered the tyrant&#8217;s jackboot first hand &#8212; his execution re-establishes the right order of things.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2007/01/mercy_for_the_g.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the innocent&#8221;</a></p>
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