Econ-Scott:

Both John Boyd and Sun Tzu have much to say about endless merkur-ial “strengthening relationships with surrounding governments” Let’s see now there is: Putins dictatorship, Saudi’s Wahhabi dictaorship, and Afgahnistan and Iraq, and the Tribal Provinces of Pahkistahn. Well 2 out of 5, for now, ain’t bad for starters.

Can you explain what Boyd and Sun Tzu have to say about it? And also explain what “2 out of 5” means, since it seems to imply that we should invade every country in the region.

Action and Inaction. Both will have consequences.

I’m assuming that to you, anything other than military force equals Inaction.

A coalition of the willing and final ultimatum followed by a bombing campaign will do two things. Demonstrate to “Take over the world” theocracies, that you can only play some of the people for suckers some of the time. And force them to deal with an economic calamity for a long long time diverting their national energy & resources to rebuild their revenue capacity rather than nuke weapons materials.

Apart from Iran, can you name one other “take over the world theocracy”?
If a “coalition of the willing and final ultimatum followed by a bombing campaign” didn’t work in Afghanistan and then Iraq, why do you think it’ll work over Iran? Theocracies all over the world will be saying, “wow, we didn’t believe it the first two times, but with this third thing…”

Iran’s ayatollah’s has something like the Nazi SS

What is it with you people? This isn’t World War Two, and Iran is neither Germany or Japan. Stop fighting the last war, for god’s sake.

Whether it is a first strike on Iran or wait for Israel to get nuked then let their three submarines try to start the 2nd strike is irrelevant… Either they get bombed first or will be bombed second, it’s just a question of strategy and how many Israelis, European, and U.S. citizens we choose to sacrifice first before responding.

Hold on, I’m starting to see a pattern… So either “they get bombed first” or “will be bombed second.” I’ve got to stop thinking that the world is a complicated place, and realize that in the end, it’s just about either/or decisions, with no room for any kind of nuance. God, I’ve been a fool.
Personally, I’d like to avoid any loss of life, whether in Iran, Israel or the US, but clearly I’m in a minority.