York University Moves to Suppress Offensive Speech — But Only When Jews Are Speaking
In October 2009, for instance, in an action that seemed to give credence to notion that there was, and remains, a sinister and dangerous side to anti-Israel activism on college campuses, the U.S. Justice Department initiated an investigation into possible illegal fundraising on behalf of Hamas participated in by UC Irvine’s Muslim Student Union (MSU). Based on a formal complaint by the Zionist Organization of America, the investigation would look into allegations that Galloway had raised funds for the Viva Palestina project.
Galloway, who has referred to murderous thugs of Hamas “as heroes [who] are opening the eyes of the world to the siege in the Strip,” and who elevates the Palestinian cause as a sacred mission against the tyranny of Western imperialism, had attended a May 2009 event on the Irvine campus sponsored by the university’s MSU, “Israel: The Politics of Genocide,” and used the opportunity not only to condemn Israel for its many alleged transgressions, but also to raise money to assist its enemies in arming themselves to further their ambition of extirpating the Jewish state. His real intention, and the spurious purpose of Viva Palestina’s fundraising, was on full display in 2009, when Galloway presented a satchel of cash to Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. “This is not charity,” he said as he defiantly passed the money to Haniyeh at that meeting, “this is politics.” What is more, he contended, he was fully intent on “break[ing] the sanctions on the elected government of Palestine.”
Galloway’s type of rhetoric and ideology is not unknown by the York administration, where radicalized students had already revealed a rabid anti-Semitic leaning when, in February 2009, some 100 pro-Palestinian students initiated a near-riot. Police had to be called to usher Jewish students to safety after they had been barricaded inside the Hillel offices and were “isolated and threatened” by the physically and verbally aggressive demonstrators.
Parroting the morally incoherent and factually defective exhortations of Israel-haters elsewhere, the York mob, which consisted of members of both the York Federation of Students and Students Against Israeli Apartheid, demonstrated once again that what is positioned as “intellectual debate” on campuses about the Israeli/Palestinian issue has devolved into something that is not really a conversation at all. York’s supporters of the cult of Palestinianism apparently no longer felt even a bit uncomfortable voicing what is actually on their minds when the subject of Israel comes up: when the York Hillel students were trapped inside locked offices, surrounded by an increasingly violent and aggressive mob, the intellectual “debate” that day included such invidious and raw slurs as “die Jew ― get the hell off campus.”
That thuggery by pro-Palestinian Jew-haters had already become something of a tradition on the York campus. A year earlier, in April 2008, York’s Hillel had invited then-Knesset member Natan Sharansky to deliver an address. Not content with allowing anyone with a pro-Israel viewpoint to shares his or her views on campus, the Palestinian Students Association and Students Against Israeli Apartheid@York (SAIA) used the now common tactic of intellectual bullies on American and Canadian campuses: They jeered at and shouted down Sharansky, spoke loudly among themselves during his talk, and generally prevented anyone in the audience from listening to the content of the speech, but not before they had articulated their own vitriol with such comments as “get off our campus, you genocidal racist” and “you are bringing a second Holocaust upon yourselves.”
Even more disingenuous in York’s behavior toward Rabbi Hoch is their prior hypocrisy in suppressing pro-Israel events on campus at the same time they facilitated or were complicit in allowing hate-fests such as Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) held in March 2010 at York.
In the month prior to Israeli Apartheid Week events, a group called Imagine With Us had planned a series of lectures to counter the invidious content of the IAW activities. Imagine With Us, according to Michael Mostyn, national director of public affairs for B’nai Brith Canada, is a Jewish/Christian coalition that is a “multi-faith, multi-political movement that is concerned with maintaining Canadian values and keeping our campuses safe from hatred, discrimination and radical incitement, particularly from those subscribing to radical Islam,” a mission that would seemingly be eagerly embraced by a university administration. But York leaders would have none of it, evidently pressured by Muslim students who were not interested in an alternative discussion about Israel and the Palestinians. The administration immediately took the outrageous step of requiring Imagine With Us to “include a formidable police and campus security presence paid for by the organizers, a list of all attendees in advance, a minute-by-minute synopsis of all speakers talking points and a ban on public advertising of the event at York and on satellite campuses.” When the coalition could not, or chose not to, comply with the onerous regulations, York canceled the event.
But the reason given for the cancellation — that the event posed a potential risk necessitating costly additional security services — was specious at best, and revealed yet another danger for free expression on campuses as a result of accommodating the wishes of groups who wish to suppress the speech of others, the content of which they do not wish to hear or have heard. In fact, York admitted that the expensive mandated security detail was necessary, not because of the likelihood that participants in the Imagine With Us events would be unruly, but “due to the participation of individuals who they claim invite the animus of anti-Israel campus agitators”; in other words, the mere potential threat of violence from pro-Palestinians, as a result of hearing speech that they did not agree with and could not abide, meant that York officials thought it appropriate and acceptable to expunge it before it could even be heard in the university’s much-vaunted “marketplace of ideas.”
It apparently never occurred to the York administration that Jewish students and other supporters of Israel may also take offense during the repellent Israeli Apartheid Week, when libels, lies, and distortions about history and fact portray Israel as a racist and brutual rogue state among the community of nations, and Israel’s supporters, and Jewish students in particular are made to confront vilification, ridicule, and slander. It evidently does not bother the administration, either, when an intellectual charlatan like George Galloway comes to campus and proudly expresses his affinity for and admiration of terrorists whose sole purpose is the murder of Jews and the extirpation of the Jewish state.
This makes me wonder where most of the funds for York comes from? Has any one bothered to look at their financials? Also, Who is in charge or making these decisions? Has any one bothered to look at them and their affiliations? This seems to go far beyond what just government funding would accomodate.
The answer to your question is Middle Eastern petrodollars, and their corrosive effects upon Western societies – one of the two key elements in the islamization of the (former) West, the other being islam’s demographic bomb.
Do you think it’s coincidental that the President of York University is one Mamdouh Shoukri?
York University is a public university and receives most of its funding from the taxpayers of Ontario, the province in which it is situated. You can find out more about it in the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_University
Public Universities in the US (and I assume the same must hold for Canada as well) receive moneys from non-State sources too, and often proportionally significant in reference to their total State-related annual revenues or revenues from student tuition and fees. Parenthetically, it is noted that many of their students are foreign students from the Middle East, and many of these students are government sponsored thus directly linked to this area of the World’s revenues from oil exports. These non-State related revenues are, for example, research contracts from non-State entities, direct contributions to their Endowment Associations (for endowed Chairs, student scholarships, among other purposes), as well as direct contributions to their General Revenue Fund(s) for and from a variety of activities (for example, capital construction and acquisitions) and many of these revenues are tied to Middle East interests.
Middle Eastern petrodollars, through a combination of such vehicles, exercise considerable direct and indirect influence as a result on State Universities and Colleges hiring of administrators, faculty and staff, as well as on academic and research policies, for example in setting up Middle Eastern Studies Centers.
I’m not disagreeing with you, GT. I was just trying to make clear that York is a public, tax-funded university, not a private institution. It’s quite possible that they do get donations, bequests, and so forth from foreign countries and institutions, I really don’t know about that but the Wikipedia article which I cited might be a starting point to figuring that out. (Or not: I only skimmed parts of the Wikipedia article.)
Isn’t York U the home of PROF Mohamed Elmasry? – Mr. ‘all Israelis over 18 are fair targets for terrorists.’ For which he received no punishment. The so-called Human Rights industry totally ignored him. They were too busy following up made-up ‘hurt feelings’ from muslims or some warped individual who thinks he is the world’s (or at least Canada’s) conscience.
If the head-wanker is a muslim, he should think very hard about at least the semblance of fairness, even if he worships Galloway and Hamas. As it is, I believe that many people will find Shoukri’s entire approach, from allowing Galloway, to threatening a Rabbi will not earn him many browny points – just lots of brown-nose points from Hamas and the Loony Left.
A minor point but George Galloway is thankfully no longer an MP. He stood in my constituency in East London at the last election and I am delighted to say was so badly whipped at the polls that he didn’t even bother to turn up for the count (a major breach of election etiquette).
Doc:
Check out Quebec’s Concordia University for an atmosphere that will give U of T (and any other school on the continent) a run for its money in the STFU sweepstakes.
Galloway would get a parade in Montreal.
There oughta be a law…
This is a very disturbing trend we’re all noticing regarding the safety of Jews. If physical intimidation is all a Muslim / anti-Jew needs to prevail over free debate then we are in dire straits. As much as I dislike “the military option” it would seem that now, more than ever in our nation’s history (Canada’s as well), we must bear arms against these thugs.
A thug does not comprehend logic. A thug does not question what he is told. A thug does what he is “paid” to do regardless if the “payment” is nothing more than social accolades. A thug understands what violence and intolerance are. A thug sees anyone who is not willing to match his exploits as weak and vulnerable.
Let’s change their minds, shall we? Since a thug only understands violence it is past time for all non-anti-Jews to arm up and combat this threat. Beat a thug down at his own game and watch as his mind suddenly changes or watch as he self-destructs. Either way the world is rid of one more bad ideologue. If a man has no capacity to determine things for himself then he has no capacity to influence our budding students at any grade level. In other words, all of the students who attend universities such as Toronto who simply follow the guideposts of “Death to Israel” should be immediately expelled regardless of academic standing.
Personally, I don’t care if you make valedictorian in college. If you are unable to comprehend REAL LIFE and REAL SITUATIONS then you don’t deserve the opportunity to attend college. College is supposed to improve one’s knowledge of himself and of his world. The students who blindly follow the mindset of a thug are improving no knowledge of any nature, unless you count George Orwell’s “doublethink” as a form of knowledge.
1) Keep out the liars and thieves.
2) Expel any and all students who form a mob for any reason.
3) Start punishing students who disrupt speaker assemblies. Rather than prohibit someone from speaking instead brutally punish the ones who would have caused the prohibition in the first place. There are only so many students in a given campus. Eventually the thugs will run out of people to use.
Sorry for the long post, but as someone who has been told his whole life that college is very important to get ahead these things make me want to go postal. I refuse to touch a college campus until the taint of stupidity en masse has been removed.
One more thing to add to your list: the jihadists of the world, and their enablers, need to be so decisively and viciously beaten into a pulp that they lose any interest or hope of prevailing with their self-absorbed, juvenile ideology. This kind of incineration may take fifty years to finally occur but occur it will.
Amen, Zamir. You write like a person who has not been lobotomized, and is able to defend his/her interests. Sadly, this country (and much of the world) is either indifferent to the life of “the Jews”, or actively dislike them, or are otherwise demoralized and decadent, thanks to the incessant propaganda on behalf of “moderation” that is not moderate. I wrote about it here: http://clarespark.com/2010/11/06/moderate-men-falling-down/. The situation you point to is all too real, and we are almost at the end of the rope, but not quite.
A number 4 to add to your list: Arm yourselves with whatever weapons you are legally permitted to buy, own and keep. Practice faithfully with them until you are competent. Target shoot often enough so that, if. as and when you are physically threatened, you will reflexively kill your would-be assailant. Oh, yes. Also keep plenty of ammunition of the correct size for your weapon on hand. Under no circumstances should a weapon purchased for self-defense be kept broken-down, in a locked box, on a high shelf, in a closet, with the ammunition at least 50 feet away and also locked up. By the time you get to the weapon, assemble it, load it and all, we’ll be saying kadish for you.
I’m guessing that you are not Canadian. I am. Buying a gun, particularly a handgun, is almost impossible in Canada due to our gun control laws. It is even illegal to have pepper spray! (The fear is that a robber could use pepper spray to stun a store clerk and facilitate a robbery so ALL Canadians – except for the police – are forbidden to have it.)
Of course that applies to ALL Canadians so a Muslim or Christian will get into just as much trouble for having a gun (or pepper spray) as anyone else.
why don’t you say it like it is…muslims, as usual, using violence and intimidation to spread the message of hatred of their “religion of peace” and subjugating the ignorant infidel. the president of the university is muslim and the president of the student federation was part of the mob that victimized the students barricaded inside the hillel offices, this in itself should tell you that york university is a terrorist haven and shoukri is the islamist slime at it’s head
The real irony here is that York used to be known locally to some as “Jew U” for its (allegedly) large Jewish population. I’m amazed that the tide has turned so far that Jews are now openly menaced on the campus….
This is all very depressing. My daughter is a freshman at McGill. Any information about the situation there?
I don’t have many specifics for you, Miriam. I live several hundred kilometers from McGill and it isn’t in the news very much. I seem to recall hearing something about vocal pro-Palestinian demonstrations on occasion but I think those stories were from a few years back. To get a better sense of what’s going on there, you might try looking at back-issues of the (English-language) Montreal paper, the Gazette, and/or googling on McGill.
Thanks, Henry! I spoke with my daughter today, and she had no idea what I’m talking about, so maybe it’s a good sign.
Miriam, I am sorry to have to tell you this but recently three terrorists were arrested, one from Montreal, a McGill University “doctor” who I know only too well. He did his residency in the Pathology Department at the Jewish General Hospital where I just so happen to work. Their plan was to blow up the Parliament in Ottawa and also Montreal’s subway system. Luckily they got these maniacs before they did any damage but I had to work with one of them. I am also being harassed by an extremist, leftist, Hamas-supporting pathologist who also works there. Concordia U is not the only university facing problems with anti-Semitism and I personally have to deal with it every time I go to work.
Give the racist George Galloway a platform to speak at York University but silence everyone who may disagree with him. Why? Because Jews don’t blow people up in buses or in trains and don’t fly planes into buildings. If Canadians humor the racists and apologists for Muslim terror, maybe Muslim terrorists will leave the Canadians alone, right? As for the Jews, well, they’re used to being dumped on, so they won’t mind, right? When will the world come to the conclusion that we’re silencing the wrong people?
George Galloway may or may not be a racist but, his own words make it clear that he is very far Left indeed. In the “Support for the Soviet Union” section of the Wikipedia article about him it says the following:
Galloway once stated “I am on the anti-imperialist left… If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life. If there was a Soviet Union today, we would not be having this conversation about plunging into a new war in the Middle East, and the US would not be rampaging around the globe.”
That’s not the ONLY reason we should have qualms about Galloway either. The Wikipedia article discusses his views and actions in some detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway
Excellent and truthful analysis of this aider and abetter of terrorism and hater of Western values. One small correction though, he is mercifully no longer an MP, the voters of Poplar and Limehouse constituency had the good sense to boot him out in the UK General Election of May 2010.
When reading about the roots of the Holocaust in Germany, I always wondered how things could come to such a pass. Now I see that it happens slowly based on individual decisions of mean-spirited people. It builds to a crescendo when it finally spills real blood in the streets and people become too afraid to seek justice of even the most rudimentary type.
Is it not possible for the pro-Israeli groups to begin to harass universities of un-learning by filing discrimination lawsuits. You would think that there would be plenty of evidence. Even if thrown out, the universities would be forced to deal with the publicity. And if they were to lose, who knows how much money it would cost. It is amazing that bullying is wrong, unless the victim happens to be a Jew or a Christian or a “homophobe”.
In a perverse way, it is a good thing that universities like York and Toronto provide such clear examples of their utter moral turpitude and degradation. In the new world that is shaping up, a world in which decent people are insisting that publicly funded and supported organizations and bodies adhere to western values like respect for differing opinions, civilized discourse and public decorum, these universities and others like them, will be denied public money. Let them sell their expensive degrees to those who want to buy them.
The rest of us who know right from wrong and good from bad should understand that these organizations cannot be reformed. We need new ways to provide for higher education and new ways to evaluate learning, competence and skill.
i agree 100%
i also believe that this is the reason that obama will be remembered as the “great unifier” of the american people– nevermind that obama unified everyone against him and his lefty policies but would you expect anything less from modern day spinsters?
More ominously, the university considered the rabbi’s words “actionable,”( read: criminal), and expected “a retraction and apology forthwith.”
As a lawyer I read the word actionable as creating a civil cause of action for defamation, not as hate speech against an ethnic group which, under well-intentioned but misguided Canadian law, is a criminal offence. As a graduate of York University I am disgusted that my Alma Mater, which was ironically created by the initiative of Canadian Jews, has fallen on such hard times.
The alumni do carry some clout. Withholding donations and canceling membership in alumni associations are two things that can be done. As long as the reason for canceling/withholding is clearly stated, it should have some desirable effect.
The question becomes, when are the Jewish groups going to use Canadian law to their advantage? Instead of complaining about it, maybe its time that the Jewish community in York file its own complaints against the President of the University, the anti-Semitic student organizations and its speakers.
I think you should respect Canadian values. They are different than us, with their own ways. “Free Speech” is an American concept, alien to Canadians. Let Canada be Canada. If they go full-on Hitler, we’ll wipe ‘em out.
F^ck off.
The first line of the Canadian Charter of Rights states:
Fundamental freedoms (section 2), namely freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, freedom of belief, freedom of expression, freedom of the press and of other media of communication, freedom of peaceful assembly, and freedom of association.
We are not so very different from Americans after-all.
Thanks Toronto Girl for supplying this quote from the Canadian Charter of Rights, which I assume it’s accurate.
I counted eight “freedoms” but what I don’t see there is an explicit reference to “freedom of speech.”
Wonder why.
Duh. What the heck do you think freedom of expression means? It’s the widest definition of freedom of speech.
If so, someone should have said that to the writers of the Bill of Rights and especially to James Madison.
You need to be more careful in your “interpretations” eh?
Dude, freedom of facial expression must also be included in this ‘freedom of expression’ ! And that ‘freedom of thought’ is also remarkable – except, I’m not quite sure how it can be checked, let alone “protected.”
The conundrum you’re in, my friends from Canada, can be partly attributed to just that, your Charter of Rights seems weird.
We also still have the Bill of Rights which predates the Charter and which specifically states “freedom of speech“. The trouble with it, though, is that it is legislation rather than a constitution and can be changed much easier than the Constitution can.
It also says those rights are “subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. ” Basically freedom of expression until the government/courts say you don’t.
Subjects of the Canadian People’s Republic have already been persecuted and prosecuted by judicial and administrative bodies, making the Canadian Charter of Rights a dead letter, a sham, a beard for totalitarian socialism. Like the EU and Soviet Constitutions, it’s window dressing designed to deflect criticism of Canadian’s actual wishes, desires, and actions; a means by which Canadians feel good about themselves while doing evil. If Americans weren’t around, the true Canada: Trudeautopia would be unrestrained and free to be the anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, and socialist.
Tehag – come north and enjoy a horse-back ride through a few stands of Aspen. Trust me; you’ll be in Canada and your speech will be coming freely.
It’s called freedom of speech Richard. Ever heard of it?
Or do you only vigorously defend those speakers who are anti-islam?
What’s the matter Richard, don’t like it when the boots on the other foot?
A Moslem preaching about freedom of speech?? Thanks for the laugh, you made my day!
The only thing Muslims know about freedom of speech is that they can use it as a weapon against the infidels, so please, don’t preach to us about it.
No one is denying you and your pals freedom of speech but you guys are violently denying others theirs.
Soon enough the winds will shift Islam boy and the infidels will figure out your game………………
Rabbi Hoch is the rabbi of the shul that I attend. He is New York-born and is very well liked and respected by his congregation. He is not overt in his political comments, but we all know where he stands. His congregation is 100% behind him in this fight against free speech and the Moslem-apologists at York.
Canada has lost its moral compass. Mark Steyn, often mistaken for being Jewish because of his name, knows first hand how upside down and gerryrigged the “free” speech is, especially related to Muslims/Islam/jihad…and more especially toward Israel in particular and Jews in general.
Canada is in a full Sharia/leftist headlock. But frankly, doesn’t really care enough nationally about Jews or Israel to get up off the couch and lift a finger in resistance.
Let them shout a bit, eh? Who cares? Canada long ago lost its fight against leftist surrealism. This is not true of individual patriots there, it is only true on a macro level. It’s a pity. It used to be a cold place with a warm people.
Now, coldness has swept the land and it is getting harder and harder to find the pockets of warmth. When the patriots decide that standing up for the picked on, that fair is fair, right is right, wrong is wrong once again, Canada can find her lost charm, beauty and grace.
Until then, she disgraces herself.
You said:
“Let them shout a bit, eh? Who cares? Canada long ago lost its fight against leftist surrealism. This is not true of individual patriots there, it is only true on a macro level. It’s a pity. It used to be a cold place with a warm people.”
Well, to some this is also happening in the US and it has already happened in the EU, Australia and New Zealand as well. There are global (“macro” as you call them) forces at work obviously, whereby islam having found suicidal liberals-suckers all over the West, is taking full advantage of the situation.
Canada long ago lost its fight against leftist surrealism.
Canada is a lot more leftist than I would like, but it is not as leftist as the United States. Canada has a moderately conservative leader. It is not run by a far left, pro Islamic, anti-Jewish, cabal like America is under Barack Hussein Obama, a man who, if he isn’t a closet Muslim, is stupid enough to believe that Islam can be appeased.
Terry,
Mark Steyn would never have been brought up on charges here. Well, maybe by Jay Rockefeller, but not by anybody sane…nor anybody who could do anything about it.
And, the US just nearly wiped out the leftists in our House of Representatives, is likely to demolish them in 2012 and will never allow the open, disgusting, despicable, Jew-baiting…out loud…by a major university…except UC-Irvine.
Here is the Wiki snippet of what can happen in Canada, please also see Kathy Shaidle and…we never did properly address your gift of Peter Jennings.
Steyn later wrote a lengthy reflection of his turmoil with the commissions and the tribunals. The reflection appears as the introduction to The Tyranny of Nice,[44] a book authored by Kathy Shaidle and Pete Vere on Canada’s human rights commissions. In it, Steyn writes:
I’ve learned a lot of lessons during my time in the crosshairs of the [Canadian human rights investigator Jennifer] Lynch mob. Although the feistier columnists have spoken out on this issue, the broad mass of Canadian media seems generally indifferent to a power grab that explicitly threatens to reduce them to a maple-flavoured variant of Pravda. One boneheaded “journalism professor” even attempted to intervene in the British Columbia trial on the side of the censors. As some leftie website put it, “Defending freedom of speech for jerks means defending jerks.” Well, yes. But, in this case, not defending the jerks means not defending freedom of speech for yourself. It’s not a left/right thing; it’s a free/unfree thing. But an alarming proportion of the Dominion’s “media workers” seem relatively relaxed about playing the role of eunuchs to the Trudeaupian sultans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn
Don’t forget Terry, we had Pierre Trudeau for years and years. He is the sole reason that this once great (yes, we used to be great) country is now a socialist one. Like Obama, Trudeau introduced universal health-care to the hapless population. Also like Obama, he was a far-left, arrogant, anti-semitic, anti-American, anti-capitalist SOB who hypnotized the Canadian people with his so-called charm, oratory ability and hipster style. The only difference is the majority of the American people see through this imposter, whereas my countrymen re-elected Trudeau, thus giving him even more opportunity to destroy Canada in general, and the Province of Ontario in particular. Look to your neighbours to the North my American friends, and don’t follow in our footsteps.
Western Canada never bought the Trudeau snake oil.
I don’t think Trudeau should get all the credit. Long before him we had Tommy Douglas, and before him, J. S. Woodsworth and M. J. Coldwell and the C.C.F. .
There has been a strong, organized socialist political movement in this country at least since the 1930s, perhaps even earlier. These were precursors of the NDP which has always been cozy with the Liberal Party, and when the Liberals needed their numbers to augment their own on Parliament Hill, there was always some strings attached, politics being what it is.
It was during one such marriage that Trudeau implemented some of the policies that are regretted, by many of us today. But even when there was neither a formal or informal coalition, the Trudeau Liberals adopted many of the NDP platforms, effectively stealing their thunder, and buying socialist votes.
The Liberals are in one of their weakest eras now, but we now have the Bloc Quebecois to contend with. So, yeah, Canadian politics is dysfunctional, and has been for a very long time, and it’s not all attributable to P.E.T..
“Now, coldness has swept the land and it is getting harder and harder to find the pockets of warmth.”
Yup. Where I live it’s currently -18C (-2F). Makes us a hardy lot, though.
In the meantime, I suggest you rent or buy the documentary Indoctrinate U. It deals with American universities, and regrettably has been imported to Canadian campuses.
Who knew cold winds blew in from the south? Thanks a lot, Yanks.
Anne Coulter also cancelled an appearance at the University of Ottawa because of concerns for her own safety from hecklers. Many in Canada don’t like opposing viewpoints and use intimidation to express their opposition.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/americas/25coulter.html
Actually, the University of Ottawa cancelled her appearance, not Coulter. They expressed concerns about security. Coulter wanted to give her talk but the university wouldn’t go for it. She details this in one of her columns: http://anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=361
This trend was disturbing before Jews were targeted for this type of treatment when faced with a preferred minority victim group.
Frankly, American Jewry supported this type of double standard treatment when it was applied to white/Euro/Christian/males. Now that it’s being done to them, not so much.
What exactly are you basing this utter nonsense on?
Next you’ll say that Jews brought the holocaust on themselves too.
Yawn.
Im not saying the Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves.
Im saying that the Jews have been the farthest Left vote block in the US for decades on end….and conspicuous political leaders and intellectuals, with regards to Communism and Cultural Marxism.
Facts arent slander and dont imply other things. Jewish students howled down those that opposed the Hate being spewed by the Black Panthers on Campus. The Anti American War Movement. Stood shoulder to shoulder with the American Indians as they kicked non Natives out of territory controlled by Natives, making them Judenrein as well as Eurorein.
Deal with it.
How did I miss noticing the jackbooted legions of the world’s Jewish majority oppressing the world’s non-Jewish minority, which has you so terrified?
The fact is that only one out of every 457 people (1:457) is Jewish. I’d estimate about half of that number are male (1:900), and less than half of that number are in the infamous age bracket 18 – 35 for violent troublemakers (less than 1:1800).
Therefore, the massive bloodthirsty lynch-mobs that have you so distressed probably don’t have more than a handful of people who were born to a nominally Jewish parent. And since you don’t see anything to worry about from the non-Jewish remainder, you should really pull yourself together.
Who said anything about bloodthirsty Jewish lynch mobs. You still cant deal with reality can you? Everyone who criticizes Jews is an anti Semite.
Well, dont be surprised when other groups adopt that mentality and apply it to you, buckaroo.
Here is the latest Judenrein/Eurorein zone. Not a peep out of the Jewish press objecting to this, so far as I know.
Re The Racism & Ethnic Cleansing-Practicing Mohawk Politicians Of Kahnawake
Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing. Racism is racism. Wrong is wrong.
Or so we thought.
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2010/02/re-those-racist-bastard-mohawk.html
Canada changed when Pierre Trudeau was Prime Minister fro 1968-1979. He became Prime Minister again in 1980 but by then the damage was done. Progressives took charge of Canada and we are suffering the consequences. The two PJM articles about the dangerous environment at our Universities (York and Toronto are not alone) and our Kafkaesque human rights commission are examples.
But the US has its own Trudeau now. The USA that I lived in 50 years ago has vanished. The USA of today that I visit now is nowhere near as free as the one I lived in then.
It may feel good for Americans to denounce Canada and Canadians as some sort of a communist gulag where we benighted units of the State are plunging into a socialist hell. But look around and you might see some glass walls.
The actual USA is not the “Absurdistan” described by the left wing media. Neither is the actual Canada the mud-coloured dopey socialist shit-hole imagined by some Americans who are upset with America.
Nobody wins points for the biggest insult. Points are won for recognizing bad stuff and trying to fix it. The battle to maintain freedoms is a never ending story all over the world. Right now, Canada and the USA aren’t doing too well in the freedom department.
Here is an excerpt from a speech on Nov 8 by Canadian Prime Minister, Stephen Harper. The speech was given at an Ontario conference on combating anti-Semitism. Ask yourself if President Obama could make this speech. Ask if Obama even visited Chabad House on his recent visit to India.
…“Let me draw your attention to some particularly disturbing trends.
Anti-Semitism has gained a place at our universities, where at times it is not the mob who are removed, but the Jewish students under attack. And, under the shadow of a hateful ideology with global ambitions, one which targets the Jewish homeland as a scapegoat, Jews are savagely attacked around the world – such as, most appallingly, in Mumbai in 2008.
We have seen all this before. And we have no excuse to be complacent. In fact we have a duty to take action. And for all of us, that starts at home.
In Canada, we have taken a number of steps to assess and combat anti-Semitism in our own country. But of course we must also combat anti-Semitism beyond our borders, – an evolving, global phenomenon. And we must recognize, that while its substance is as crude as ever, its method is now more sophisticated.
Harnessing disparate anti-Semitic, anti-American and anti-Western ideologies, it targets the Jewish people by targeting the Jewish homeland, Israel, as the source of injustice and conflict in the world, and uses, perversely, the language of human rights to do so.
We must be relentless in exposing this new anti-Semitism for what it is. Of course, like any country, Israel may be subjected to fair criticism. And like any free country, Israel subjects itself to such criticism – healthy, necessary, democratic debate……”
Besides – the Green Bay Packers are really a Canadian Football team – they just happen to play in the NFL. Go Packers!
Thanks westerncanadian – you beat me to it. The speech by our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, reflects the reality of a world gone mad and the consequences of standing with Israel. And our consistent support for Israel under Mr.Harper recently cost Canada a seat on the UN Security Council (although that can be counted as an honour) and the US did NOT support our application for same, even though Canadian casualties in Afghanistan are the third highest after the US and UK.
When have you ever heard the following kind of truth from ANY western leader before? I mean, ever:
“And I know, by the way, because I have the bruises to show for it, that whether it is at the United Nations, or any other international forum, the easy thing to do is simply to just get along and go along with this anti-Israeli rhetoric, to pretend it is just being even-handed, and to excuse oneself with the label of ‘honest broker.’ There are, after all, a lot more votes, a lot more, in being anti-Israeli than in taking a stand. But, as long as I am Prime Minister, whether it is at the UN or the Francophonie or anywhere else, Canada will take that stand, whatever the cost. And friends, I say this not just because it is the right thing to do, but because history shows us, and the ideology of the anti-Israeli mob tells us all too well if we listen to it, that those who threaten the existence of the Jewish people are a threat to all of us.”
This speech is worth reading in full by any who care to know the position of the present Government of Canada. It can be linked to here: http://www.cjc.ca/2010/11/09/statement-by-the-prime-minister-of-canada-on-the-ottawa-conference-on-combating-anti-semitism/
You wrote:
“And our consistent support for Israel under Mr.Harper recently cost Canada a seat on the UN Security Council (although that can be counted as an honour) and the US did NOT support our application for same, even though Canadian casualties in Afghanistan are the third highest after the US and UK.”
This is the first I heard of this. Could you provide more details or point to some articles or commentary on this? Seems we would want to keep more allies on the Security Council.
Black Bart, I agree that we need more allies on the Council, thanks for responding to my comment. I tend to avoid most old media sources and read conservative papers/sites, so there aren’t any left-links below, though they can as easily be found on the net:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304410504575560421374193814.html
http://www.nationalpost.com/snubbed+Bush+diplomat+says/3675195/story.html
The incompetents in Washington promised to restore our standing in the world. All I have seen is needless insults to our long standing allies like this. Obama is teaching the rest of the world that we are unreliable friends.
Here is a link:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/inaction+blamed+Canada+failed+Security+Council+seat/3675554/story.html
I really don’t believe it myself. Apparently the EU had a collective vote of, I believe 57 for Portugal and the Arab League all voted against us because of our Israel stance.
Frankly, I’m glad we didn’t get the seat. I’d like to see Canada pull out of that organization altogether and I’d like to see you Yanks boot it out of North America.
I know the perfect spot for relocating the UN – it’s called Pitcairn Island.
I vote that the “un” leave the USA and relocate to… Mecca.
You can listen to it, or part of it at least (I don’t know if it’s the whole thing) here.
Don’t worry about Canada.. If Rob Ford can be elected in Toronto as a partial result of the eye opening experiances such as the Tamil Takeover, Jew Hate Week, Queers For Islamic Dhimmitude and the Union of Leftist Anarchist G20, Canada will be ok…
Good luck during the next two years… George Galloway is a Herald of Jihad.. He can never refudiate his allah (sin).. He is Mohamacticus’ slave forever…
Does anyone have any reliable statistics on the following shares:
- the share of queers that are Jews
- the share of queers that are muslims (behind closed doors, of course)
- the share of Jews that are queer
- the share of muslims that are queer (behind closed doors)
The only statistic I’ve come across, regarding queerness, is that in the US there’re about 3% of the population, although no breakdown by ethnic/religious group is known.
I bring this up because it seems to me there are making quite a bit of noise, given the relatively low shares they enjoy in the general population.
A very bad sign indeed.
A rise in antisemitism often precedes war.
Upholding the rights of one group at the expense/denial of rights for another is discrimination, or have they forgotten that?
Before you accuse me of hypocrisy, yes, I know that is happening here as well.
Jews and Jewish supporters will not threaten or commit violence against any of these “enlightened, intellectual” college officials and administrators whereas the Islamic, Palestinian, anti-Israeli crowd won’t hesitate to use violence, their most effective and preferred weapon of intimidation. Administrators are likely masking their fear with lofty proclamations regarding free speech, incitement to riot, campus violence, etc., choosing appeasement over confrontation.
It’s easy to call them cowards but they are ill equipped to quell riots and, as in America and elsewhere around the world, until the global Islamic threat evinced by this campus terrorism is confronted with lawful, consistent, overwhelming force, situations similar to this will continue to occur and likely escalate.
This may be a particularly egregious case but York is not the only university or institution in North America experiencing a resurgence of antisemitism.
I don’t think the US really has the sort of defamation laws that are in place elsewhere. Canada isn’t the only place where a publication that contained:
would result in a demand for an apology. That’s a pretty specific claim and it’s likely to be taken fairly badly by the target. Given that it’s likely to damage his reputation or good standing, I suspect it’s subject to defamation law.
If the rabbi had left that part out, I reckon he would have been fine.
It’s not defamation. This is a fact of life and it is time to stop beating around the bush.
the Muslims and their enablers are counting on political correctness to be a hurdle to us so we have to get in their face whatever the consequences are.
People like Rabbi Hoch should be protected and funded so that we can turn the tide against the thugs that are using our own rules to twist our arms.
Actually, it IS defamation to make a specific accusation of anti-semitism.
At least … in countries which have defamation laws.
Like I said, if the rabbi had stuck to the facts, things would have been different. I don’t think this is a case of only allowing free speech for non-jews.
Rabbi Hoch did not accuse Shoukri of being an anti-Semite. He stated that by allowing known anti-Semites to speak on campus, he is showing a tolerance for anti-semetism. He also said that the system is seriously broken and we all must take responsibility to fix it. It is happening all over North America, not just York. And it is not just a Jewish problem. It only ever begins with the Jews.
What is happening on campuses all over north America is systematic, co-ordinated and insidious. It is time to look to London England to see what is coming if we don’t get together and turn this tide.
Defamation, requires a falsehood.
In that case, the rabbi has nothing to worry about.
@Van Grungy,
How very astute of you to know the ending. The looney left continue to dance under the moon and think little of their future.
I suspect that is because they are too busy sticking their controlling nose in where it is least welcome.
Did anyone expect anything less from York’s president, Mamdouh Shoukri?
Mamdouh Shoukri, an *Egyptian-born* engineer and is the first *Muslim* appointed as the permanent head of a Canadian university.
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/179486
…makes ya wonder, doesn’t it?
“In 2009, Mr. Galloway had been barred from entering Canada due to his public support of and donations to Hamas…”
Galloway was not “barred”. This is one of those stories that come under the category “urban legend”.
Here is what happened:
http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/2009/03/christopher-hitchens-is-wrong.html
“Galloway hasn’t even tried to enter Canada, remember. Instead, he has taken the opportunity to combine with his Canadian admirers to exploit the gullibility and general slovenliness of the press in order to tell a pack of lies, monger a lurid conspiracy theory about a secret plot hatched in Ottawa to silence critics of Canada’s engagements in Afghanistan, fabricate a free-speech controversy, and blame it all on the Jews.”
I suggest that people use videos cameras to record, document the anti- semitism espoused by islamofascist, socialist racists.
Send copies of the videos to President of York U Shoukri and the media.
If President Shoukri doesn’t not censure the racist islamofascists, socialists, then Rabbi Hochs charges are valid.
Free Speech doesn’t give one the right to threaten people.
Let’s not all pile on Canada, although political correctness has really been institutionalized there for years. After all, American universities are just as hypocritical and myopic when it comes to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and the question of free speech.
What’s the big deal? It’s just more Socialists, you know , just like MSNBC, New York Times, AKORN, and most of the rest of the “Lame Stream” media.
Most of middle America knows who and what they are. They are akin to a dirty diaper, sooner or later, they get changed and thrown away whether they like it or not.
I am my college professor’s favorite pupil. He calls himself a “philosophical progressive” (whatever that means) and he tells wonderful stories about Mao Zedong and how deeply spirtual it is to become a Progressive. He told us not to pay any attention to those horrible rumors that the Conservatives preach to us about Brother Mao’s murder of 60 million. I know it’s a lie, that’s what a girl on Facebook said. After all, President Obama had a Mao ornamate hanging fron the White House Christmas tree, right on cool. After learning all of these new political ideas, I went out and got the latest Che Guevara t-shirt. It is so rad. My professor went to Harvard like Obama did so I know he loves Che too. My professor said Hollywood helped to revive another leftist martyr but my uncle (who was in the Army) said Hollywood has dutifully churned out yet another cinematic agitprop paean and that I should read to try to discern why many supposedly democratic, civil libertarian liberals still swoon over this Stalinist mass-murderer. What ever that means, later dude.
The reason this kind of hysterical, hypocritical, lying defence of Zionist terror, hatred and repression is produced is because it works — people are sensitive to Jewish feelings, and Zionists manipulate this. Recently, the Canadian Jewish Congress managed to get Adbusters barred from a major retailer because it published a piece comparing the Warsaw Ghetto to Gaza. The Canadian government supports the Intergovernmental Coalition to Combat Anti-Semitism and the forthcoming report by the Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Anti-Semitism, which label any criticism of Israeli policies anti-Semitic. Canada is even more pro-Israel than the USA.