Wounded Warmists Attack: It’s What Happens ‘When Prophecy Fails’
The release of the Climategate emails has caused the world to look at the methods of leading climate scientists with much greater skepticism and concern.
The well-documented, thoroughly dissected emails revealed that data was manipulated to hide temperature trends that were not favorable to researchers’ intended outcomes. Using their positions of power in the field, leading climate scientists kept man-made global warming skeptics from publishing in scientific journals. They perverted the “peer review” process by reviewing their research papers among themselves. Emails were deleted to hide information from authorities after Freedom of Information Act requests were made (Nixonian behavior which made the “Climategate” moniker especially apt).
The list of questionable — and possibly criminal — activities goes on and on.
Emails obtained by the Washington Times reveal that climate scientists at the National Academy of Sciences seem to be feeling a bit wounded: they say they are “tired of being treated like political pawns.” And just as a physically wounded creature fights back with even more aggression after an injury, instinctively knowing its very existence may be in peril, the Times emails show that climate scientists are planning “an outlandishly aggressively partisan approach” to strike back at their “enemies.”
One of the scientists quoted in the emails is Stanford University researcher Paul Ehrlich. He writes:
Most of our colleagues don’t seem to grasp that we’re not in a gentlepersons debate, we’re in a street fight against well-funded, merciless enemies who play by entirely different rules.
This is the same Paul Ehrlich who in 1968 wrote in his book The Population Bomb:
The battle to feed all of humanity is over. … In the 1970s and 1980s hundred of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now.
This prediction was of course wrong, but most disturbing was his fascistic advice: he advocated the use of “compulsory birth regulation (using) the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food.” He was quoted in 1992 as saying: “Giving the world cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving a child a machine gun.” In 1990, he said: “We’ve already had too much economic growth in the United States. Economic growth in rich counties like ours is a disease, not the cure.”
With his history of misanthropy and totalitarianism, it’s no wonder that Ehrlich went on to become a man-made global warming crusader.
‘The global warming “science” community is feeling threatened by evidence and revealing emails — their funding, and therefore their careers, may be in peril.’
The alarmist scientists will continue to fight for survival in this subject unless we offer a “safety net” – something else to study that will be beneficial to mankind. Example: How to stop an oil leak at 5,000 feet.
That’s a good idea, but it won’t work. You actually have to know what you’re doing, have real training, real knowledge and real skills to stop oil leaks. These AGW jokers are for the most part all talk. They’d be utter failures in any endeavor that subjected them to real accountability.
Exactly.
This is also Obama’s problem: he calls a one-day “summit” of academic “experts” to discuss the problem du jour in breakout groups and by 5:00PM they have a “solution” or at least a bunch of possible approaches, then have a presser and declare victory.
Nothing real gets done.
“Nothing real gets done”
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Thank God for that! Anything Obambi’s people get done is sure to be counterproductive.
That’ll teach ‘em not to leave PDOOMA figures all over the scholastic landscape.
PDOOMA! I love it! I’ve got to add that to my lecture on evaluating statistics. It’s up there with BFO.
Love PDOOMA.
Similarly, I prefer “Onager Estimate” to WAG. (An onager is a type of wild EurAsian ass.)
Francis, how on earth did I miss the original post on PDOOMA? Brilliant, just friggin brilliant my friend!
Much of what underlies radical environ-mental-ism is class status resentment by the Anointed (as Thomas Sowell calls the “New Class”). In today’s society, they lead generally comfortable middle-class lives, but they do not enjoy the deference they believe is their just due, and see others, much less “deserving”, enjoy material opulence. In other words, they are part of the Middle (perhaps even the Upper Middle), but believe they are entitled to be the High.
In their ideal society they would lead a standard of living not unlike what they are living before, but that standard would be the highest one still available to anybody.
Think of O’Brien’s monologue in “1984″ explaining the way of life of the Inner Party.
Here is the “1984″ quote I was referring to, from the book-within-a-book “The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism” by Emmanuel Goldstein (click on my handle for the URL):
“It is deliberate policy to keep even the favoured groups somewhere near the brink of hardship, because a general state of scarcity increases the importance of small privileges and thus magnifies the distinction between one group and another. By the standards of the early twentieth century, even a member of the Inner Party lives an austere, laborious kind of life. Nevertheless, the few luxuries that he does enjoy his large, well-appointed flat, the better texture of his clothes, the better quality of his food and drink and tobacco, his two or three servants, his private motor-car or helicopter — set him in a different world from a member of the Outer Party, and the members of the Outer Party have a similar advantage in comparison with the submerged masses whom we call ‘the proles’. “
That is beautiful! The phrase ‘Oligarchical Collectivism’ pretty much sums it up.
The inner party uses the outer party to organize through NGO’s like the Sierra Club, NRDC, Greenpeace, et al., who coddle and milk the useful idiot masses. No conspiracy here. These people are true believers who have been immersed in the dogma of their faith for their entire lives. They don’t know any different. You can’t call them stupid, because they do not possess the information needed to make an informed judgement.
The statements, actions and initiatives of the inner party members like Strong, Ehrlich, Hansen and Gore reveal that their motivation is a quest for power and money. Their tool to obtain power is the quasi-religious, self supporting, group think, environemtnalist ‘community’. These people are not environmentalists, their motivation is oligarchy. They resemble watermelons with a collectivst red core surrounded by a veneer of green. They claim their motivation is to do good, and they are doing very well indeed!
Brilliant post. You really do put it all in perspective. A friend of mine once met John Madden at a coffee shop. He was amazed that Madden sat and talked football with him for 45 minutes. In summarizing the event he opined that people like Madden, despite being rich, famous and living legends, understand that they are blessed and don’t need to dwell on it. Meanwhile the guy who makes $5k per year more than you will never let you forget it. This is the mindset that drives the corporate ratrace where people work tirelessly in a mindless job to have one more piece of plastic junk than their neighbor. And the fact that their work is making someone more money in a year than they’ll make in a lifetime doesn’t matter. All that matters is the appearance of being just marginally better than their peers. To quote Hannibal Lecter we “covet…the things we see every day”.
So much of the rhetoric around global warming is wildly inane. People who know nothing of science, and know they know nothing of science, posture all over blogs and editorials not because they really have any idea what the real facts are, but because they hope to look 1% smarter than someone else, even if that means they are 98% wrong and the other guy is 99% wrong. This is significant because just like 98% of us are poorer than John Madden, ABSOLUTE right or wrong don’t matter. Its only about appearing to look smarter, more responsible, more enlightened, etc than an equal idiot. Because no matter how enlightened these types want to believe they are, the fact is they are all the same pathetic brainwashed pawns of our superficial society and these small moments of artificial joy are the only fulfillment most of them will ever have in their pathetic lives. This is why John Madden will sit and talk football with you for hours without knowing you, but your neighbor won’t talk to you since he bought his Prius. The people in the tightest grip of this type of societal manipulation are the most self righteous about what independent and intellectual thinkers they perceive themselves to be.
But its a beautiful thing really. Nothing brings me more joy than watching these types of people. They repeat soundbites trumpeted from a million sources, as their own superior intellect. They will talk up marginal differences in education, intellect, and social position to win an argument that extensive documentation shows to be a 30 year old fabrication by a few social introverts trying to push a political agenda. Global Warming NEVER WAS REAL. THERE IS A EXTENSIVE DOCUMENTED HISTORY THAT TRACES ITS ORIGINS TO A 1976 UN WORKING GROUP. Margaret Meade, Paul Erlich, Steven Schneider and others INVENTED the idea, built the framework for the AAAS, Science magazine, and the IPCC, and KEPT MINUTES ON THE ENTIRE DEAL. These facts are far more available or verifiable than any on Climate Change, but somehow the debate still rages. Blogs blog, people counter web links with web links and soundbites with soundbites, and everyone is so righteous with their $30K battery powered death cars. Oh the humanity. Sometimes you have to laugh so you don’t cry…
Let’s pray and trust that among those of the AGW fraudsters about to be swept away by the Truth Tsunami are Australia’s increasingly hysterical, anti-depressant-habituated, infantile-temper-tantrum-tossing, Labour Party “leader,” the incredibly appropriately-named, K.Rudd.
Prophesy of men.
1999 Y2k bug-
Billions of humans will go back to living and dying in caves with very little food or light.
2000 Result-
My Yugo wouldn’t start?
2008 Obama- HopeyChangey, no more same, same.
Result-
2010,
Wish it were same, same,
miss me yet?
Scientists- Universe is expanding, contracting, moving away?
Dogs, Cats, still don’t like each other.
Fearless leader, you are pregnant with depth. Are you wearing your eye patch.
They have feelings of grandiosity, of being singled out for an important mission (saving humanity), their understanding of the situation is greater than that of the peons and anything they do, no matter how wrong it is perceived to be by the rest of us, is ultimately for the good.
I don’t see how this condition differs from any psychotic who thinks satellites are beaming him super-special messages and his actions could save the world if only the government would stop shooting micromillimeter waves at his head.
To be sure there is NO difference. Besides a heaping helping of self righteousness, and the obligatory $30k battery powered car.
I mean I just love it so much. And could there be any better icing on the cake than than Priuses becoming uncontrollable high speed projectiles. I mean history’s greatest authors couldn’t have come up with a storyline like this. Self righteous, wanna-be intellectuals co-opting a fabricated agenda they using it as their blunt instrument of intellectual superiority. And the ultimate status symbol of these intellectual supermen is a 30K a battery powered car that jettisons them at top speed into any available obstruction without warning.
All hail the Idiot Martyrs of the green movement. I JUST LOVE IT!!!
AGW is more lunacy by our friends on far, far left. It kind of goes along with their brilliant theory of spending our way to prosperity and adding 20 million people to health care and save money.
Paul Erlich is the political opportunist who shouldered all the movements:
world wide drought which when it didn’t happen morphed into the
population bomb which morphed into
global cooling which morphed into the
ozone hole which morphed into
global warming which morphed into
climate change which we are about to see morph into ???
Problem is, in those other “crises,” no one found a way to profit from their continuation (with the likely exception of the freon-caused ozone hole, which was necessarily self-limited when a substitute–of unknown consequence–was forced upon us).
With AGW/Climate Change, there are trillions of dollars to be made and the methods of cultivating the cash are widespread, the investors powerful (and often politicians themselves), the tentacles deeply interwoven. Most of the media are too thrilled with the scary story to risk ending it, not to mention they are of a same mind as the thieves and socialists who refuse to admit it’s all a hoax.
Is it a coincidence that the Freon scare came up just a few years prior to the expiration of the patent on Frean. Is it also a coincidence that the company that owned the patent on Freon, also owned the brand new patent on the chemical the govts forced us to replace Freon with?
Is it also a coincidence that all of the science since Freon was banned, has found that Freon wasn’t a problem after all?
The problem is they have enablers in government who are hell bent on getting into our pockets. This will prolong the fraud.
The anxiety disorders that follow threats and stories of fear hamper the health of the greenies. Monckton calls them the bed wetters.
The confession of doubt and manipulation in the e-mails is clear proof they do not use science as intended
It is curious to consider what would have happened if the emails had not been ‘outed’. In the end I still think THEY would have failed, but the process would have gone on for much longer and I would guess there might have been an even chance cap and trade might have passed in the US. The comet came close but missed us in the end.
This is very freightening stuff in that this is only one item on the agenda. THEY are working many issues, nuclear,oil, coal, amnesty, education, taxation, entitlements, regulation, regulation, control, health, regulation, etc., etc. ad infinitum.
And THEY obviously will not go gently into that good night without a fight over AGW. Unfortunately for them the worms are out of the can.
Kind of makes you wonder… in what topics of social change are we NOT getting the necessary leaked info?
Cap and Trade was only recently (a matter of a few days I think) proposed by Kerry/Lieberman. It is not dead. I do not say ‘yet’, either, because I highly suspect that it will be successful. I mean, all it would take is for the president to say that he promises energy costs will not be allowed to be passed to the consumer, and so forth. And bingo.
The worms might be OUT of the can, but unfortunately they’re still IN congress. These night crawlers won’t stop, no matter what the issue, until they stake a claim on every dime we earn & turn it over to the “less fortunate” thru some ridiculous credit or subsidy.
Which should make us all bow our heads for a moment of thanks and praise to the Hero who obtained and disseminated them.
It makes you wonder why anyone would continue to place credence in those who like Hansen and Ehrlich have been proven to be so abysmally wrong.
Good question. However, you’re assuming that people actually want to know and obey the truth. Since the Fall, humanity has had more of an affinity for lies. Read some Solzhenitsyn, and learn how the Big Myth became something worse. Best to you…
Perhaps the besieged alarmist crowd can take some comfort in the fact that there is still a paycheck and a soap box to be had even after its promotion of astonishingly flawed science and after suffering profound professional humiliation. Paul Ehrlich is living proof.
Interesting that you equate the behaviours of the “climate scientists” in disallowing peer review, with “Nixonian tactics”. It looks as if you too, as many academics and pundits have, accepted the reports to the public from the major monopolistic media without scepticism. A few commentators of the 1970s, without special interest in pursuing a particular political agenda were sceptical.The fact that the two “Democratic” Presidents immediately preceding Nixon, both of whom actively engineered the Vietnam War, also taped their interviews in the Oval Office. was of no interest to these media. Nor was the publication of THOSE TAPES.(a bit like the uninterest of the media and pundits in Obama’s disallowing public review of the facts of his provenance while at the same time the miniscule examination of Sarah Palin’s ?) You need only compare the media fictions (stories) on Watergate and those of the IMPEACHMENT of a president in the 1990s. Pundits and academics with a clear political agenda,now successfully achieved, who made no secret that their model for governance was that of Marxism/ Leninism as practiced in the Soviet Union and, but not attributed, Nazi Germany.Pundits and academics who have spent their energies and teaching positions as clerks /clerics in “educating” their captive audience to the only true religion of Marxism/Leninism, packaged as the blessings of compassion and fairness. Somehow it never is compassion and fairness, but just the takeover of the neighbourhood by another power-mad gang.
The Bible says to “be fruitful and multiply” and to “subdue the earth”. Also, we are to be the steward of the planet. These people say the exact opposite… what does that mean?
About human stewardship, does it override the other commands ever? That is, do earth-worshipers have a case? Well, Jesus tells a story about a wise steward. A man must make an appraisal of his own stewardship and ends up having all his masters debtors write a bill for half the amount they owe. This suggests that intention, without disobedience, is important to God. Oil has in fact saved many lives. As has coal. People may have gotten very rich from the technology, but the technology itself is not the villain. And even if all structures were built from mud and logs we could expect some fatalities from that process. So, the fact that coal miners have died is not a substantive argument. The intention is key, and earth-worshipers formulas for stewardship are all ones that excise the one true God.
The challenge is in making life safe and clean while remaining cognizant of God’s commandments. The default scenario is a sin-cursed world.
The Bible also gives us the only good rationale for an Ice Age: Noah’s Flood (notice ‘good’ is my qualifier, so no need to bring up solar radiation, etc). If the planet’s glaciers are melting it is a return to homeostasis.
Warmists got a real reality check with the Icelandic volcano that the whole world saw. One volcano puts out more carbon dioxide than an entire continent and we are supposed to believe humans are to blame? I trow not. Without such events they would have a high intuition-factor on their side, but as the Psalm goes, Put them in fear, O Lord, that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah. …And, as it turns out, despite Evolutionist’s moors intuition is not a substitute for fact.
Recommendation: Valium
Just as a note, the steward what dishonest and covering his butt for after he got fired. The master praised him for his cleverness, but still fired him. Jesus was just noting that we Christians need to be as clever – in our own way – as the “World” is in its way.
One of these days, a member of the AGW crowd is going to be indicted for either obstruction or misappropriation of funds (in their grant applications) and we will hear no more from this group.
Until that happens they will continue to argue and rant.
Personally, I think all of their careers are already ruined as a result of their colusion. November’s election will doomsday for them because their protectors will be out of power and unable to shield these smarmy little power hungry nitwits from the truth.
The AG of (I think) S. Carolina is going after Mann (of Hockey Stick fame) to find out if any of the research grants he has received were obtained using fraudulent data. If he’s convicted, he will have to return the money, plus triple damages.
It’s “Virginia”, not S. Carolina. Not that it’s important, but if someone wanted to further look it up, it would probably work easier with the correct state name. I hope he can actually pull it off.
Is it just a coincidence or not that MAN MADE Global Warmist moonbats tend to be Green NAZIS and left wing PC, MC Islamophile, LBTG lovers too like say Obambi for instance who operate on the emotional, group think and hysterical level only eschewing such inconveniences as facts and logic.
Have you also noticed that lately the Green NAZI moonbats have dropped the MAN MADE BS from their claims and now just say Climate Change now that Global Warming has proved to be so elusive and well NON EXISTANT. As if that is all thats needed to send you in to an orgy of guilt over a COMPLETELY NATURAL phenomenon over which MAN has absolutely no control or influence whatsoever and to which no CONTROLS or LIMITATIONS over Industry and Commerce can have any effect at all. Except of course to make Green NAZI’s RICH and give them CONTROL. Which of course is exactly what they want.
Unfortunately, the message about this fraud is not getting out to the general public in the U.S.
It is so blatant that those involved should be summarily dismissed from their positionsin publicly supported institutions and charges brought to recover the taxpayer funds they fraudulently obtained for research grants.
How and when is this going to happen?
The AGW promoters have begun to behave like madmen. They are convinced that some of their belief system will prevail and by an aggressive campaign they can recapture the high ground . Much like David Koresh. Adolph Hitler or other delusional figures.
I think commenter BKae above deserves an answer. In mho , The evolutionist crowd have become extremely worried and have become defensive and desperate. They are well entrenched academically and culturally and for the moment they have superior numbers. But new discoveries and evidence are chipping away at their fragile construction.
The last debate I saw between Turek and Hitchens was a total victory for DR. Frank Turek as he made the atheist Hitchens look like a bumbling imbecile.
Another field of scientific inquiry which has begun to resemble a political construct,which consumes billions of dollars and delivers nothing,is nuclear fusion research. It appears to be nothing more than a giant black hole which sucks in billions of dollars of grants and yields zero in return. Well, not counting the swell careers and cushy research jobs .
You meant me, right? It’s RKae, not BKae, but I think you meant me. (No harm. It’s an alias anyway.)
I think one pseudo-science that’s being carefully hidden and propped up and, consequently, awaiting a leak is the “genetically gay” nonsense. The idea that people are genetically gay popped up when the ol’ ’70s “alternative lifestyle” phrase wasn’t catching on. “People aren’t liking the idea that gays adopt their behavior! Better make it something in the DNA!” It’s always struck me as a little hinkey that “born gay” came along right when they needed it for marketing purposes with public opinion, and long before DNA research had told us anything about anyone esle’s proclivities.
Pardon my thread-jack.
Many thanks for this wonderfuly concise and disturbing look into the mind of the eco-facist warming crowd. I’ve been telling anyone who will listen for years that the goal of the green movement is not “saving the planet” but totalitarian dominance. Paul Ehrlich was and is the perfect example of this. In a sane society he would have been laughed off the stage years ago yet he continues to occupy an exalted place in academia and treated with reverence by the media. This is a guy who is just a couple of clicks away from being Josef Mengele and probably would emulate that famous doctor if he got the chance. Of course, the boxcars of victims on their way to the camps would all be in the name of “saving the planet” so that would be OK. Politicians, academics and media elites have signed on board for one reason – It will increase their power over the rest of us and that, and only that, is the goal.
The Orwell quote is very apt. We see this in the activities of the eco-celebrities led by Al Gore who lead luxurious lives and eat up resources by the truckful yet justify it on the grounds that they are doing so much good that they are entitled to live a fat lifestyle. They are the Inner Party of the movement and to them all things are allowed.
I don’t know what these lunatics are talking about. There has already been an outlandishly aggressive campaign pushing global warming for at least a decade. Belief in global warming is like a religion. The IPCC itself said dissent from the global warming dogma was immoral. People like Al Gore have accused global warming skeptics for years of being flat-earthers. NASA chief James Hansen said oil company executives should be arrested and put on trial for supposed crimes against humanity simply because they disagree with him. The one thing that the global warming movement is not about is science.
When these Marxist enviro-wackos get desperate enough, they will resort to outright murder against their most vociferous skeptics.
They will take a page out of the playbook of their Islamist allies and use violence to silence those who dare offend them.
The end justifies the means!
There are billions of $$ pushed into everything from solar panels to carbon credits because of this scam. How successful will you be trying to convince someone who just put $50k worth of panels on their home that they did so based on a lie? Here in NJ, there are millions of dollars worth of panels that are being financed by the SREC (energy credit) market. All that has to be done is to change the law to say that utilities no longer have to buy these energy credits (the law mandates at some point, 20% of all power be generated from renewable sources) and there will be no more SREC money. People will have no way to pay off these panels, which only produce a small amount of energy.
The Information Quality Act or Data Quality Act (DQA)of 2001 that Congress passed so that “In those situations involoving influential scientific or statistical information, the results must be capable of being substantially reproduced…” This information is held to a higher standard of scrutiny when “influential scientific or statistical information is used to have an important effect on the the development of domestic or international government or private sector policies or will likely have important consequences for specific technologies, substances, products or firms.”
So, there you GO! Just another law that governmental agencies ignore!!!!
1. Hold those lyin’ scientist’s feet to DQA of 2001.
2. Hold a debate between Lord Monckton and other scientists…Let the PEOPLE see for themselves and hear the dialogue.
3. Hold Al Gore responsible for the sham he’s pulled on America as a legislator, as a Vice President of the United States, and as the flim-flam man selling the ‘hockey stick’.
4. Hold them in the dungeon… ALL!!
Vicki:
Excellent ideas! I, too, would like to see the charlatans pay dearly for their AGW scam. The photo of the century would be AlGore, wearing handcuffs, being perp-walked into the jailhouse after being arrested for felony fraud.
RICO them all!
I think the RICO laws could be used to great effect on those who would trample on our freedoms and steal our treasure. All it would take is one very smart State Attorney General to get the ball rolling.
People in the West are so weirdly agenda driven that I really don’t know what to make of it. Agendas seem to override reason and even reality itself. Black Americans are Einsteins in the making held back only by racist Whites, Whites themselves are deluded morons who apparently put spacecraft on Mars only because there was no moral dimension involved, illegal aliens have ‘rights’ in the United States that are championed by some Americans against other Americans, Americans wear helmets to ride a frickin’ bicycle, I met a man who was issued a ticket in San Francisco for smoking a cigarette in his car, Mumia is a hero, people on the left consider the Right to be composed of people hopelessly corrupt yet indulge in this global warming scandal, love Supreme Court nominees put forth by gender and race, and illegally boycott Arizonans over a law they don’t like, sanctuary cities simply ignore laws they disagree with. It isn’t just the meek who are inheriting the Earth, it is the meek, the moronic and the endemic failed sub-cultures, led by the United States.
Just to be clear on these issues……. America is not alone on the planet & that means every other nation has an equal responsibility for whatever good is done or has been done, AND, for whatever bad or stupid is done or has been done. Many want to say America acts in a vacuum. Logic & reality demonstrates that the rest of the world is as culpable as America is.
The reason these GW believers are psychologically hurt by the recent revelations about GW is because these people were never scientists in the first place. A scientist applauds when new knowledge supplants old beliefs because he/she believes in the advancement of the human race through new knowledge. These ‘believers’ are just a bunch of academics pan handling for grant money from their respective governments. In addition, they were never scientists because Environmentalism has no basis in proven scientific hypotheses. We just guess about what is good for the environment based on what sounds good and has the best chance of receiving monetary blessing from politicians. We might as well be studying astrology. Oh I forgot, we already study that with blessings from our political class. The only common thread here is that academics are studying what politicians want them to study and, in exchange, politicians grant them tenure. This is why academics can mouth off about the US economy being too advanced and other such stupidity.
I found it particularly interesting to read recently that the special blue ribbon panel selected to review or investigate the University of East Anglia, Climate Research Unit emails, issued a finding all but clearing Dr. Jones who heads the climate unit. Yep, this panel decided Jones was only guilty of being messy in his affairs.
I do not remember the name of the panel leader but I do know that man is seriously invested in at least two green energy concepts. One of his personal investments is in wind energy. If green fails, his investments tank. But, we are told his review was bi-partisan, unbiased, thoughtful, & through.
Yea, sure it was. He had no vested interest in clearing Dr. Jones & his cabal of wanna-be green industry robber barons.
Cap & Trade, now called the American Power Act, cannot solve the temperature issue. Even many green alarmists admit this. They know that even if we shut down any & all industry in America for thirty years, the best we would get is a one degree F reduction in temperatures. One Degree!!!!! And all we must do is live like prehistoric stone-aged man w/o fire, in gwat conditions.
If this legislation cannot solve the problem, then why are we cutting off our noses to save our faces? Gore just bought an $* million dollar mansion on the California coast. (Based on RE today & especially in CA., Gore obviously got himself a bargain.) But, his mansion is not environmentally friendly. In fact, its no where close to green. Why can Gore live it up while his legislation (and make no mistake it is HIS legislation), imposes draconian living & economic conditions on American citizens? Just what has Gore done that he should be so privileged?
I am so angry the old mainstream media has failed to fully inform the public about the facts in this issue. Many are no aware of ClimateGate, nor are they aware much of the touted UN IPCC reports have been totally discredited. Their facts have been shown to be non-facts & we have learned many items in their reports are in fact, hyperbole by those seeking fame & fortune, but who have absolutely no factual scientific evidence to support what they have sold to an uninformed public.
The WWF (World Wildlife Federation), has at least two errors in those reports. Errors like glaciers disappearing when in fact, that claim is based solely on a comment by a global warming groupie to a magazine writer. The Himalayan glacier is NOT melting at a a rate other than any other glacier. In short, what is happening is natural & we should not & can not go off the deep end to change natural.
The exaggerations, hyperbole, outright lies & distortions, along with the actual deliberate omissions of facts that do not support or contradict global warming, makes what these people are doing a monumental fraud & if we can get the politico’s who have enabled the green movement out of power, we can expose what they have done to the public around the world.
These people are not only sickening, they are dangerous. They represent the type of governance that lead the world to many of its totalitarian regimes that ended up oppressing any & all they could influence.
The panel also declared that since with holding of data is SOP in climate sciences, there was no problem with Jones holding back his data so that nobody could confirm or refute his findings.
The problem is, how did the committee determine that with holding data is SOP? “Dr.” Jones told them so. Did the panel check with anyone else? Of course not.
The only people the panel talked to were “Dr.” Jones, and members of his team.
Despite the fact that the warmists are still claiming that only peer reviewed papers from major publications went into the IPCC report, a review by independant auditors found that 36% of the papers referenced were little more than press releases and pamphlets from advocacy groups.
The auditors also found that many of the papers used by the IPCC were published after the cut-off date. Some as much as two years after the cut-off date. Authors of papers critical of the IPCC’s thesis were rejected because they missed the cut-off date by as little as a few weeks.
Thank God for stop all the global warming (hoax) but because it’s involved so many corporations and Al Gore and friends’ investments in the cap and trade scam, this global warming hoax will be with us for awhile. It’s up to us to continue to let people know that the global warming (hoax) is just a scheme to push cap and tax.
When you boil it all down, the only answer is limtied government – just like the founding fathers prescribed. There will always be fanatics and this brings the opportunists who exploit them – whether to accumulate power or wealth or both. The AGW movement should not matter to anyone who doesn’t believe in it. But when government gets involved we are forced to pay or to act according to their mandates. Freedom is what we must fight for. I trust a free society to make the necessary adjustments for true problems. I do not trust government. They will always get it wrong and will always manage things badly and unfairly. Show me anything that refutes this (and don’t use the military because we let them spend about 10 times as much as is really needed to get the job done.)
“When you boil it all down, the only answer is limtied government ”
Exactly. People love to complain about the lobbyists and special interest groups that flood Washington with money in an attempt to swing policy their way, but no one ever owns up to one simple fact; lobbyists spend a lot of money because the government has its hands in everybody’s pies. Instead of attacking lobbyists, it would be much smarter to reduce government’s role in our everyday lives so that bribing politicians would have a much smaller impact. Don’t attack the branches, attack the roots of the problem which is excessive centralized government power. The GW movement is so strong because it is a politicized version of science that aims to seriously curb free-markets and redirect tax money to approved groups. If Global Warming is such a concern, one wonders why Al Gore seems much more worried now that he makes money off of it than when he was Vice-President.
As for Europe, even the irredeemable granola crunching Germans have quietly dumped a lot of their plans in an effort to kick start the economy into recovery. In all of the global warming hysteria, I can’t help but think of John Harvey Kellogg of breakfast cereal fame. He pushed vegetarianism and even opened a batty sanitarium to promote his views on sex and diet that were considered entirely orthodox in his days. Now, we look back on him and cringe at his quack science . One day, people wearing thick pullovers in October will look back on global warming with the same curious disdain.
“Their thoughts have become futile.” – Paul
I recommend institutionalization and lobotomization.
Paul Ehrlich is an infallible guide to the truth, because in over 40 years he has been wrong about absolutely everything. Listen carefully to everything he says and then bet on the exact opposite. You will win every time.
*As global temperature fails to rise in the future, we will be bombarded by increasingly shrill cries of global warming catastrophe. All forms of weather — cold, hot, record snow, record heat, floods, droughts, or anything else — will be considered proof of global warming.*
So, business as usual, then.
It’s worth noting that many millions do in fact die of starvation every year. Between two decades (70s and 80s) it’s entirely possible hundreds of millions died due to starvation. I’m not suggesting what the cause is, but the prediction cited is not so ridiculous.
Excuse me? Are you reading the same prediction I am?
Do you comprehend what the word “prediction” means, what it infers? Or are you just playing the sycophant?
Matt, there hasn’t been a naturally caused famine since the 60s. The problem isn’t the food supply; the problem is governments deliberately (Zimbabwe, Sudan, Iraq under Saddam, etc.) using food as a weapon against their own populations.
Why don’t you check with the available records before making yourself look stupid.
Insist that your candidates and reps have no truck with charlatans like AlGore.
“Giving the world cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving a child a machine gun.”
Doesn’t change the point – but I thought that was Stephen Schneider, not Paul Ehrlich.
I believe it was the head of Greenpeace a few years ago who said that the population of the earth needed to be reduced to at most 100 million.
Me thinks this movement is unstoppable at this level; just as the debt & welfare are unstoppable at the political level. If you had a sugar-cube sized power plant that consumed nothing external and emitted no toxins, it would be demonized (I guess that’s really pretty close to nukes). The problem is the toxin of irrationality that has swept the west, it underlies the ethics and politics. If you can’t fix that, all of the rest will just be accidental / momentary breaks in the lurch to end modernity.
It’s like you need a new philosophy, like Objectivism.
Erhlich’s population error is so magnificent – exposing the whole environmental alarmist model.
As a elementary student in the 1960′s, I was indocrinated in the global population bomb mindset.
This has created the notion that “people are bad” — the primary environmentalist rallying cry.
We now know how far off this prediction was.
The following article illustrates the demographic “bomb” caused by population control.
Ironically, we need MORE people, especially children, to flourish
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-greek-crisis-is-about-demographics-2010-5
Globallycool: “Ironically, we need MORE people, especially children, to flourish.”
The real irony is that atmospheric CO2 and global population track one another almost precisely… correlation of 99.85%. As long as the number of “feet” keeps growing the attempts to lower so-called carbon footprints will be futile. Fortunately, the EVIDENCE connecting INCREASED CO2 with increased temperature is computer simulations that are very highly model dependent and subject to GIGO. The average temperature of the NORTHERN hemisphere in 1938 was 15.6°C… a bit higher than it is today. Check this out:
http://revolution2.us/content/docs/global_cooling/614-615.html
There is no such thing as “climate Science.” There is only Climate Politics – Yours, mine, his.
There will be and cannot be any such thing as Climate Science until the practitioners start behaving like scientists, rather than like politicians. Until then, it would be better if they got honest jobs. Perhaps they can work as pimps. It matches their current skill set.
Exactly! I have been trying to tell people this for years. As background material for how this all came to be, read the Jonah Goldberg book “Liberal Fascism”. Almost none of what I read in that book was ever taught to anyone I knew. I tried to fact check Goldberg on many of his facts, and I could not dispute any facts and very few of his assumptions.
They, Al Gore,goldman sachs, maurice strong, franklin raines, george soros, barrack obama and others are all complict and are colluding through the cap and trade bill in order to cash in on a new stock market type system called the Chicago Climate Exchange. Please google chicago climate exchange scandal. If cap and trade passes the senate this country will lose its sovereing to a world governance body designed to enforce carbon trade policies that the all indudtrial countries will be required to comply to. Cap and trade already passed in the house of representatives in spite of the proven bogus science, this will be the largest back door tax in the history of the U.S., it will require energy producers to buy carbon credits in order to operate making your utilities NESSESSARILY SKYROCKET, trust me you don’t want to punished with this baby.
I remember taking a biology class ( in the early 70s in college. Required reading for the class included Ehrlich’s The Population Bomb. I remember the front cover – a dark gray shaded illustration depicting millions of people with nowhere to stand to the point of being pushed into the ocean. How that depressing book got on the menu is a question I never got an answer for. The professor seemed to think no answer was needed.
Anyway, the ‘green revolution’ was well underway at that time. No – it wasn’t an environmental movement – rather it was a revolution in farming techniques designed to extend crop yields – especially aimed at third world subsistence farmers – and as you may have guessed – was much more successful than Ehrlich’s book although his book is still sold. Go figure.
At any rate a few of my fellow class members and I took the professor to task for his ‘proclamation’ that the green revolution was doomed to failure. His argument was (typical of the left) no argument at all. He took us aside after that class and proceeded to ‘explain’ to us who was teaching the class and no dissent of his curricula would be tolerated and he would be keeping an eye on each of us. One guy pointed out that the Prof’s opinion on the green revolution was just that – an opinion. IIRC he didn’t pass the class.
2. Francis W. Porretto: In the military modelling and simulation community, made up data is called PIOMA data. Then there is Best Available Data (BAD).
Isn’t it odd that the majority of president Obama’s climate, energy and green Zars think the same as Mr. Paul Ehrlick. Even his economic advisers think the same way. President Obama stated, when he was running for president, that energy prices would necessarily sky rocket….Wow! He is telling us a lot. People we are in trouble as a nation. We have been hooked winked and guess what, we apparently like it. We are so like sheep being taken to the big house. Guided by the big wolves. We are more then they are in numbers but have been conditioned to follow Simon and do as he says. So, these weather people lie to us. They invent numbers. They try to destroy proof to the matter. Remember President Nixon? Wasn’t he impeached for trying to cover up something? How come these weather fakers are not prosecuted by law. Their numbers are still being used by the Obama administration as factual., and the lame stream media do not ask him the right questions regarding these issues. Am I to understand that the media is in the tank with these people? Are the American people that sheepish? I do not believe in the press anymore. I do my own research with outside observers and weigh in the logical results of all the issues. Do not believe only one source or one side. Do research. Be your own man or woman. Its sad when a great nation like ours have leaders that constantly break the word of law and the constitution and, with proof, and nothing is done. God help us.
The same kind of phony alarmism overtook the education establishment back in the 1970s-1980s, resulting in replacing fact-based, traditional academic disciplines with the environmentally-politically correct group therapy that produces the semi-literate young people leaving school today. Paul Ehrlich was one of the education gurus demanding all the “green curriculum” back in the 1980s.
Both parties are responsible for the big public education dumb-down our tax dollars are funding. My friend, Jed Brown, candidate for Superintendent of Public Instruction of Washington State in 1992 and 1996 ran against the RINOs. If he were still alive and running for the same office in this energized Tea Party environment, he’d win.
The descriptions given here read very much like Eric Hoffer’s description of cult members in The True Believer.
you are mixing up the word “prophet” and “psychic”.
A psychic predicts the future.
The prophet warns us to change our behavior or else something bad will happen. If we change our behavior, it doesn’t happen…Don’t believe me? Read the book of Jonah: his warning caused repentance and voila, God put off punishing Ninevah for a generation.
Ironically, climate scientists, by increasing pressure on pollution and encouraging behavior change, are true prophets, but lousy psychics.
Virtually every word of this article is a lie.
I actually enjoyed the article, i think it’s very informative.