Will Obama Move to the Center?
Some Washington pundits are developing a new narrative for President Obama: the coming of the centrist. It’s a narrative that expects history to repeat itself; something history rarely does.
It’s along these lines:
The shellacking that the president and his Democrats are taking on health care reform, the stimulus, and cap and trade will grind these and other initiatives to a halt. Democrats will lose one or both houses of Congress in November 2010. Republican majorities will serve as a useful counterbalance to a president whose hard left will continually nip at his heels. A chaste president will govern from the center. Doing so, Mr. Obama will be reelected. His second term will be filled with sensible compromises between congressional Republicans and himself.
Seem familiar?
Could it turn out that Mr. Obama does a reprise of the Clinton presidency? It’s possible, but is it likely?
The answer may well be no. Of course, the world is very different from the world that President Clinton inhabited in the last full year of his presidency (2000). It was a pre-9/11 world. The nation’s dynamics have changed markedly, and not for the better. The country is in the deepest recession since the late 1970s and early 1980s. America is embroiled in an ongoing war against terrorism.
Crises — real, imagined or exaggerated — should never go to waste. Or so schools Rahm Emanuel.
For a left-dominated Democratic Party, the environment has been ripe not just for change, but for revolution. A bloodless revolution, mind you, but a revolution, nonetheless. With the presidency and both houses of Congress under their control, entitlement Democrats have believed that they’re entitled to coax, pull, or push the nation to the left.
How else does one explain Democrats attempting to hustle so much mammoth, society-changing legislation through Congress? Nostalgia for FDR’s first one hundred days is nice cover, but not the real reason.
Left-wingers sense — not incorrectly — that this is their moment. They also sense it slipping away — no doubt, with great alarm. A similar moment may not come again for another generation — if then. Environmentally sensitive liberals don’t intend to waste an economic crisis.
From every indication, President Obama is of like mind.
Mr. Clinton wasn’t so much a liberal as he was a self-aggrandizer. Foremost, he was a sensualist, to put it mildly. In his lexicon, principle might as well have meant “putty.” Mr. Clinton loved the power and perks of the presidency. Winning his way on health care — or Hillary’s way — may have been dandy, but not at the expense of his office. When he lost the health care reform fight, he skedaddled away from it as fast as his feet could carry him.
Barack Obama is cut from a different cloth. He started his career as a paid rabble-rouser, but he wasn’t any old hired gun. He was a committed left-wing ideologue, an apostle of the late Saul Alinsky. He rabble-roused for “progressive” causes in Chicago.
Obama won’t move to the center – his band of radical merrymen won’t let him. Even if he tries to, which I doubt he will, it would exacerbate the disaster(s) he’s already caused (unemployment 9%+, exploding deficits, massive spending) b/c as you correctly point out, he’s no Bill Clinton. He’d be neutered by Congress, and his lefty Commie friends will throw a hissy fit. It will be a battle between his giant ego & his leftist pals on one side and whether he can muster enough pragmatism to secure a second term on the other. America is more conservative than liberal, and many independent voters & some Democrats are finding out, finally, that Obama is nothing but smoke & mirrors with a hard-left agenda.
Why in heaven’s name would someone who was taught and trained in Communist ideology year after year
[see: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/the_brainwashing_bunch.html,
and now possesses position of tremendous power, even think of “moving to the center”?!
Wishful – and deadly – thinking.
The Democrats are about to get their revolution wish come true; a full scale civil revolt; uprising is well underway across America.
It consists of millions of everyday normal, working citizens of all persuasions and races that are pissed off at Obama to make damn certain that he is a “one term” President.
In fact, if Obama doesn’t cool down his ego maniacal disregard of the Constitution, established Executive Legislative Office procedures and the Will of the People; he may well get his wish granted early in the form of an Impeachment that is upheld by the United States Senate.
So, while trying to figure out the game plan don’t bet that this can’t happen either. Bill Clinton came as close to cooking his own goose as you can and still have enough feathers left to fly. And like your article says; “Obama ain’t no Bill Clinton!”
Obama is a 1960′s Left wing SDS radical who has bought the anti establishment message and narrative of that era completely. He has surrounded himself with like minded advisors in the White House, and before his election, he surrounded himself with the likes of Bill(Bomber) Ayres, Reverend Jeremiah(God D..m America, Zionists control the White House), and of course, the unlamented Black Racist and Nationalist, Van(the white polluters are poisoning the colored people)Jones. America has elected the first Black American Nationalist to the White House, and that Black American Nationalist is going to make “Whitey” pay, even if that means destroying America to do it.
Obama’s agenda remains as it has always been – to transform America into a totalitarian communist country, one sector at a time. If he thinks moving to the center will expedite this, he will move to the center. If he thinks moving even more radically to the left will expedite this, then that is what he will do.
People are getting all caught up in the details of healthcare nationalization, worrying whether it saves money or costs money, or whatever. But Obama is only interested in completing it, then moving on to nationalizing all of the other sectors of the economy that are on his list.
If by center you mean somewhere to the left of Che, you might be right. One would have to be deluded to think Obana-san can be anything else than what he is. The cadre that occupies the White House and their willing accomplices in Congress want radical change. It is time to stop them and it would be suicidal to pretend that they would accept any reasonable compromise. Remember the tale of the scorpion and the frog? Well some things are changeable,and some things are not.
Clinton didn’t have 32 czars (or, is it 31 now?) that report only to him. So, I suspect Obama would still be able to carry out parts of his agenda, perhaps quietly and behind the scenes, while giving the appearance of moving to the center.
Here’s an eloquent critique of “the Obama Doctrine”
(as shared – unfortunately – by too many in government and elsewhere):
http://www.voncampe.com/monthlyarticles/socialists_within.html
When I was a kid, my school used to put some of the juvenile delinquents in the best classes to “mainstream” them, thinking that would make them straighten up and fly right. You can guess what happened.
I certainly hope President Obama sticks to the left. This country needs a revolution and even if he is a one term President -that’s okay he needs to stand tall about doing the right thing. Republicans do absolutly nothing to make this country better when they are in office. And the President did not create the wars or the failed economy -so stop telling lies about that. My advice to the president these people who are constantly criticizing President Obama are a mere 10-20% of the population. Why give in to them- they are irrational, racist and do not speak the truth. Do your thing Mr. President and act like they don’t exist. It’s not like you are going to impress you and they are going to vote for you anyway. So why should you cater to any of them. Van Jones’resignation should never have been accepted. The right wingers still see you as a Marxist leader anyway so what good is his resignation going to do? Basically it shows a weakness in your armour. Democrats are too apologetic and their efforts at this only makes them appear weak. It’s like trying to appease a lover who finds you contemptible. Forget them and try keeping the promises you made to your supporters during the election. They are who matter.
I wish we voted for someone who said Yes We Will instead of Yes We Can. There is a BIG difference between Can and Will. Obama is not taking enough charge and leading on the healthcare issue, he is letting it turn into chaos. Hillary learned from her mistakes in 94 and healthcare reform would be further along had she been elected.
She said in Feb 08 Yes We Will WATCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhCikLeXb7c
The problem is that The One believes He is already in the center, in that He is mildly irritating the most virulently radical-left elements of His own party by not “moving fast enough” on their agenda.
In His own mind, He is a centrist by nature. Of course, His is a mind which places the “center” somewhere between the Berkeley Faculty Club and the Fabian Society on the philosophical spectrum. Most Americans would not agree with that, but in case you haven’t noticed, The One regards most Americans (even the ones who voted for Him) as being too stupid to be either taken seriously or allowed to run around loose.
I recently found an interesting- and frankly somewhat worrisome- parallel with the present situation in the United States, in the events surrounding the English Civil War of 1642-50 and the Protectorship that followed it.
In each case, a corrupt, egotistical, and fundamentally clueless head of state was aided and abetted by a legislature that somehow managed to outdo him in all three departments, up to and including using the force of legal power to silence critics. In England, the “blowback” fundamentally changed the country forever.
(For a good “Cliff’s Notes” version, see the 1970 Ken Hughes film “Cromwell”, starring Richard Harris.)
All I can say is, if it comes to the point that we end up with an Oliver Cromwell, G-d help us.
(Google “Nehemiah Scudder”, and keep in mind that “Utopian” regimes’ tend to be superseded by ones that also define themselves as “Utopian”, but with diametrically-opposed views of what they define AS “Utopia”.)
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Johnson was the last President who succeeded in advancing the statist agenda. Clinton was just a crook. Clinton is no model for Obama and he said so many times. Obama is not like Johnson ether. Johnson feared and respected the right wing and knew how conservative this country really is. Obama has no idea who the American people are. We are not like left-wing primary voters who love a personality cult. The left loves lies and liars. Obama will have no credibility left if he keeps insulting people and lying.
#10 kalimah samiullah
My advice to the president these people who are constantly criticizing President Obama are a mere 10-20% of the population. Why give in to them- they are irrational, racist and do not speak the truth. Do your thing Mr. President and act like they don’t exist.
The most recent Rasmussen Daily Tracking poll for September 6, gives the following numbers regarding Obama.
40% Strongly disapprove
29% Approve
50% Total disapprove
49% Total approve
Compare the numbers for May 6, four months ago.
30% Strongly disapprove
37% Approve
43% Total disapprove
57% Total approve
Obama has acted as if the opposition doesn’t exist, and it has increased. Methinks it would be irrational for Obama to ignore these numbers.Democrats’ playing the race card has hit the law of diminishing returns.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
adugan, no question Hillary would have been better.
What is so interesting to me is Gibbs’ statement about Obama serving one term. Is he already bored with the job? Looking for one with more favorable press? Misses his “dancing” on Ellen? Does he sense an opening for the top job in Cuba? Does he think his sequestered documents will leak out if he runs again?
Of course Gibbs is not the sharpest tool in the shed but I’m guessing he and the team have discovered the boss has a glass jaw and does not have what it takes to be the next “come back kid”.
I’m sorry but he spoke with a forked tongue during the campaign but couldn’t resist the slide to his true nature when installed on his throne.
Any centrist talk will be just that … talk. Anyone who is fooled twice, well, as the saying goes “shame on you.”
President Obama is an immature man-child with the temperament of a spoiled Affirmative Action child; therefore, he will not move to the center at all, but move sharper left thanks to his own arrogance & ignorance. Obama is a radical Leftist who feels more kinship with dictators such as Cuba’s Fidel Castro & North Korea’s Kim Jong Il. I believe Obama may talk as if he’s moving to the center as he did in his campaign, but he will remain radical in his actions as he attempts to move more power to the Executive Branch. This will be his downfall since we Americans will not stand for any American dictator in our midst.
I find it refreshing when someone like kalimah shows up on a PJM thread. His/her words need no refutation. Attempting to do so will not change any minds; let the comments stand as a testament to the far left. I am confident that I can take every word from him/her at face value. “The proof is in the pudding,” goes the old proverb. Let us see which is stronger: America’s founding documents or the “new narrative.” If the former then we will see a restoration of the republic, and if the latter . . . well, we’re about to find out.
As I read your comments, I wonder…
What would Jesus do?
http://deepbraindiary.com/2009/09/06/matthew-2531-46-updated/
To expect Obama to abandon his transformational agenda is delusional. That would go against his core ethos. He will proffer vague hints that he is willing to move to the center just to arrest his falling poll numbers and tighten up the races in VA and NJ. If that works, he will be back with a vengeance. Don’t forgert, the MSM will never abandon him.
When you look at the Obama administration, you also need to look at those who surround him and his very recently departed Green Czar, Van Jones.
White House advisor and insider, Valerie Jarrett is quoted as saying about Mr. Jones…“Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all that energy in the White House.”
This says that Obama has surrounded himself with extreme left wing ideologues, and in all probability felt right at home with Van Jones.
Look back further on Obama, as a community organizer and instructor of the Saul Alinsky method of community organizing, as a lawyer for ACORN, as an associate of committed left wing radical bombers and idologues Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorne. He also worked as Chief of Staff for Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, a noted communist sympathizer, and attended a black liberation (Marxist based) theology church for 20 years…….Its all there.
Obama is a committed far left radical ideologue who is just in the first lap of a long race. He will stay the course because that is the way both he and his wife are programed….Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead !!!!!
The far Left, like neo-nazi socialist fascists are not supposed to be anywhere near the White House. They fall into that category: “enemies, foreign and domestic.”
#1. The Cranky Parkinsonian: As I read your comments, I wonder…What would Jesus do?
Cranky,
How about a little less proof-texting in the article you linked to? Within the “total context” of the Bible, we also read Romans XIII and the following verses:
And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. Luke 6:20
Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. Luke 7:22
But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: Luke 14:13
For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always. John 12:8
In other words, feeding the poor and providing health care is part of the “social gospel,” not the Gospel of Christ Jesus. Moreover, in the overall biblical context of Romans XIII, it is the church’s responsibility to feed the poor, not the state’s. If the church would stick to the sheep living lives that reflected The Light and evangelized in humility (instead of the pastors conducting “altar calls” in lieu of “feeding the sheep”), perhaps the church would be far more effective in fighting the moral battles that are the church’s responsibility. Universal health care is not a “moral” issue. There is no “constitutional right” or God-given “inalienable right” to health care at the expense of another man’s family. God charges each man to leave an “inheritance” (both spiritual and financial) to his children. Christ charges no man with the responsibility to “render unto Caesar” gifts to the poor, because Christ recognized Caesar as being fundamentally statist. “Gifts” are just that, and the New Covenant written in Christ’s blood is the ultimate gift. Please don’t pervert His gift with aiding and abetting totalitarian thought and practices ensconced in socialism. Christ is not a “socialist,” Republican or Democrat. Christ is Lord and His Kingdom is not of this world.
Mark
Barack Obama will become one very conflicted soul if the nation rebels against his agenda and Congress becomes significantly more conservative following the 2010 election. As a left-wing extremist he sees himself as leading a transformation of the country (which the country in general doesn’t want). But as a pathological narcissist he also wants to be exalted and at the center of the change. He will have to choose, either abandon his radical leftwing agenda and move to the center or risk becoming irrelevant and presiding over a failed presidency.
Ooops. That was supposed to be #19 The Cranky Parkinsonian
WOn’t happen at least not convincingly/effectively.
Clinton was more moderately liberal, and anyway was an opportunist first and foremost.
Obama is fundamentally more radical and a true [however dissembling] ideologue.
Mark E. is basically right.
Jesus never said the church was supposed to become Caesar.
Will Obama moved to the center? Naahhh.. he cannot help himself being a leftist.
“Jesus never said the church was supposed to become Caesar.”
…..or that it is the state’s responsibility to tax its citizens to death to feed indolents. Using funds impressed from the citizenry, the government becomes the de facto arbitor of morality, when its officials determine who has the “right” to feed at the public trough. That is why benevolence is best left to churches and privately-funded charities. Such entities have historically fed, clothed and housed the elderly, widows and orphans, but may have cast a discretionary eye at a physically able man seeking assistance. Churches may have instead offered work, such as painting the parsonage or stacking firewood for a fatherless family, in exchange for food and/or shelter. Nowadays, however, there seems to be no public contempt towards those who breed like dogs while laying up on the taxpayer, and likewise no shame by those who willingly take food from the mouths of the old and infirm. Our government and those who voted for it consider what was once charity to be an entitlement. I call it a national disgrace.
Considering how extremist the Apologizer in Chief is, if he moves A LOT towards the “center” he will become…maoist.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
This was written by a power hungry republican liar! If you’re a republican, and you believed it, you’re stupid!
I think the answer to this question lies not so much in Obama’s ideology as in his psychology. What is his deepest personal motivation? What will gratify him? Destroying America, or enjoying many years of popularity, power, and wealth?
This was written by a power hungry republican liar! If you’re a republican, and you believed it, you’re stupid!
Wow, I’m convinced.
10. kalimah samiullah:
LOL, The bigoted fantasy ramblings of a certified left wing loon. Guess what happens when we quite paying your way in life son?
That’s right, you will have to get a job. Now go “change” your diapers.
It’s funny, you know. The same campaign of slander and lies is being attempted against Obama as was the case with the neutering of the Clinton presidency. So, the absolute refusal to be bipartisan on healthcare reform is obviously aimed at a replay of 1994: make healthcare fail and the left will be dispirited and stay away from the polls, and all the Beck lovers and the Pajama Media types will win big! Except… why would people reward you for defeating a good bill? The best option Obama has for adding seats in 2010 would be to pass a bill, and since he can’t do otherwise, without a single Republican vote. Now who loses seats?
Clinton was a political animal. He wasn’t just driven by party politics; he was motivated by them and inspired by them. You knew what you were getting, and that predictability (along with actual economic moderation informed by the real-politic of state governance) enabled the entire political class to work with him to some degree. It was often a good-enough simulacrum of things like cooperation, or honesty.
Obama is a rank amateur who brings nothing more than vacuous identity politics to the table, which makes him very dangerous. He is also insecure, despite his ego, and that is dangerous, too. At least Carter was a peanut farmer who had run a business and a state. What is Obama going to do: wake up tomorrow and suddenly have a history other than activism and Chicago politics? There is only one direction you can move in when you’ve got only ideology to offer: more ideology, more extremism.
Obama is a perfect product of modern academia, and those wishing to predict his future actions will unfortunately find answers by looking at the trajectory of academia itself.
Makes no difference to me if Obama goes right or left. I am more focused on the issues than personalities or hollywood politics. Leave that stuff to him, palin, pelosi, pawlenty and those to whom that arena belongs. We must focus on several issues right now…so..which side of the body our national arms might be on right now is of little to no importance. And many of these issues should be studied and solved by both parties. Failure to recognize that will not end up being of value to either side.
35. The answer is that this bill is not a good bill; in fact, it is a horrible bill that no sane person would pass unless he was trying to destroy the country.
Poor Citizen @ 37 says, “We must focus on several issues right now…so..which side of the body our national arms might be on right now is of little to no importance.”
Having not stated which issues you consider important, I will choose healthcare. Both sides are so far apart in ideologies, ideas and proposed legislation that there is no possible way this issue could “be studied and solved by both parties”. Furthermore, the Democrat majority (including the president) has shown no interest in involving the Republican minority. Therefore, it is quite obvious the majority party can formulate any policy and legislation they choose, with the only consequence being the opinion of the American people and their collective power to relegate the majority party into the minority in the next election cycle. In other words, go for it Marxist Democrats, we will take great pleasure voting you into another 12 years (or hopefully longer) of extinction.
To the extent that this creature has an identity it is moored by ideology. Give that up and he’s a free floating dingledodee bobbing in choppy waves. Zero can’t uncling. If he does he drowns.
Move to the center??? Look at the people he surrounds himself with. First of all, this guy’s life experience is foreign and absolutely separate form America. He has no clue as to what makes this country and this people go. Obama is like ET…he can recite the words but cannot connect with their meaning, His administration is a train wreck in slow motion. During the election, many made the mistake of looking at Obama, and seeing what they wished for, not what was there to see. Totally blind to his history, his narrative, hnis intent and his words. His unscripted comments revealed his inner core beliefs. Many disregarded them or explained them away. LET US NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. This guy is a committed, radical leftist whose credo is one of redistribution of wealth, reparations, and grovelling on the worlds’ stage. This is NOT America.
“Left-wingers sense — not incorrectly — that this is their moment. They also sense it slipping away — no doubt, with great alarm. A similar moment may not come again for another generation — if then.”
exactly.they will not stop,and are unconcerned about the damage they will inflict on the democrat party-bless their hearts.
10.kalimah-something:”I certainly hope President Obama sticks to the left.”
and i certainly HOPE he takes your advice….chum.
Obama and Clinton have developed differently. This may have to do with the very differnt nature of their fatherlessness, I don’t know.
In any event, while both are supreme egotists, only Obama is a true narcissist. Whereas both have always a deep insecure need for praise and adulation, to Clinton this was always something to be ‘earned,’ or at least worked for through false charm, flattery and general smarminess: where Clinton has failed to recive the love he craves, his respons is ‘what’s wrong with my schtick?’
Obama however believes that love, praise and adulation are his *by right.* It is simply something he deserves, tributes to his manifest Specialness. When The Won doesn’t recive his worship-fix, he asks “what’s wrong with them.”
That is why Obama will never retrench and tringulate like Clinton. Clinton didn’t mind which way he slithered as long he wormed his way into the electorate’s affections. Whereas Obama’s mentality will refuse to alter one jot or tittle of his All-Knowing Wonderfulness: he will simply try to bend the people to his awe.
And then he gets pissy. In case you hadn’t notice Obama sulks and snarks like a spoiled child when things don’t go his way.
The one time during the campaign Obama was off-balance, maybe even on the ropes, was in the wake of McCain’s “Celbrity” and “The One” ads. Bambi has a glass jaw- his overweening ego- and THAT’s what we need to keep pounding.
There is a political dance that occurs in candidates or politicians in office with an upcoming election.
With candidate Obama he began as a populist in his speech at the DNC. During the Presidential campaign he began on the left and when he won the nomination he moved to the middle. When he became president he went full left, uses whatever political capital he has to pass as many bills. During the first part of 2010 he will move to the center, work with republicans and get some bi-partisan legislation passed. This will be to maintain his majorities in congress. As with all presidents the midterm election after an opposing party takes office a major shift will occur in congress to re-balance power. The president will stay left of center but work with the new congress to get bi-partisan bills passed. The electorate has a short memory and begins looking at him as a bi-partisan president and If the opposing party doesn’t have a strong candidate and he wins. He will dance back to the left push his agenda hard. In the last two years of his presidency, called the lame duck period. He will work more on his legacy as president and get things passed, make concessions, and appear the grand statesman.
I ask you to look back at this post years from now and see if I haven’t been correct.
I have seen this pattern over and over. The same process has occurred since Nixon every time.
The only difference is democrats move to the left and republicans move to the right. If a Libertarian ever becomes president I will have to learn some new dance steps.
43. Bohemond:
Brilliant! Incredible insight! So well phrased (and spelled for the most part!) I especially like way you replaced those pesky quotation marks with asterisks, thusly:
“Obama however believes that love, praise and adulation are his *by right.*”
They look like little stars, don’t they? Keep up the dazzling analysis.
Because of the very ego you describe he will have to move to the center, if only to get reelected. The ego will not allow him to stick with far left socialist agenda to a degree that guarantees losing a reelection bid in 2012. The desire and need to stay in power will push him to the center on enough issues to accomplish that goal. I have faith the people will see through it and not let him stay in power if he can not govern for the masses…
I don’t think it’s too far fetched to anticipate a second civil war in the next 20 years. The trauma of 9-11 has been answered by a turning of aggression inward–as often happens to individuals. We will wage war on each other rather than acknowledge that Islam is the enemy.
If Barack Obama appears to move to the center, it will be symbolic (in the spirit of cover your a$$) and not substantive.
He is too much of an activist/ideologue to make any kind of authentic gesture to bring in the 47% of Americans who didn’t vote for him or to try to re-capture many of the 53% he has been losing over past months.
He has revealed his character, “we won, shut up and let us get on with our mandate of changing the face of America forever” (never mind that he completely mis-construed his job as re-making America from the ground up)
Any modulation of that should be viewed as window dressing.
“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
The comparison between Obama and Clinton has parallels between the comparison between Putin and Yeltsin. Where the former practise the cold eye like the second coming of Che Guevara, the latter were not quite as doctrinaire.
The younger learned lessons that continue the warfare against Mortimer Adler, C.S. Lewis, and their vanguard.
Michelle won’t let him move to the center…Nor will his handlers
It would undermine everything they have worked for, you know, buds with the Middle East , Chavez, ACORN etc., everything that is bad for America.
Obama is the culmination of everything that has gone horribly wrong with this country since the cultural upheaval of the 60s.
I know many 20-30 somethings are waking up this now and to the lies they were fed since birth.
How far off is Tiananmen Square II?
Nowandthen:
Snarking on typos is the last refuge of a rebuttal-less scoundrel.
I’m sure your prized collection of old Daily Worker backissues is admirably proofread.
Oh, one more thing: only an ill-educated ignoramus uses quotation marks for emphasis.
But then, you went to public schools, didn’t you?
Bubba Clinton was a chameleon who only cared about staying in Air Force one. It was the Gingrich congress that forced Bubba to the center, when Dick Morris told Bubba he better sign welfare reform and can Nationalized health care if he wanted to stay in power. Bubba was also oddly helped by the Oklahoma city bombing, when the commie media made it look like Tim McVeigh was acting alone. The One scum is too arrogant,too stuck on stupid, too much in Soros pocket to “centralize”. Bubba never would have nationalized the auto industry or the banks, even he had a practical side. The One scum is nothing but a rigid comnmie ideologue who is surrounded by rigid commie ideologues(Van Jones/Wright/Ayers/Sunstein/Browner/Koh). And like all commies, cant admit they are wrong about anything.
52. Bohemond:
“Snarking on typos is the last refuge of a rebuttal-less scoundrel.”
As was clear, I was commenting on your “analysis.” The typos were a bonus. And yes, I went to public schools. Did you, or was it some elitist private school?
The premise is hysterical. Can rattlesnakes be housebroken?
What does “center” mean in Obamaworld? I believe he will more to the center of…dictators Fidel Castro & Kim Jong Il, but this is not saying much to our Republic. In our nation, Obama is still very much a Statist, a Communist thug. I would not like to be in Obamaworld given it will be populated by mirrors & constant reflections of the One himself.
@57. Sebastian Shaw: – What does “center” mean in Obamaworld?
The bigger question is “what does ‘center’ mean in the real world”?
I always get a chuckle out of these “center”, “right” and “left” characterizations people sling around without ever really thinking about them… as if conservatives somehow occupy the far-right ideological ground and aren’t actually the one true center, in terms of political ideology.
The line of political ideology measures the dominance of government, stretching from totalitarianism/communism/fascism – all-powerful government – on the far left to complete anarchy – no government at all – on the far right.
At the center of this line one finds classical liberalism / conservatism / republican, constitutional, representative, democratic self-government.
Decades of influence by international socialists (i.e., communists) over academe and popular culture have utterly destroyed the value of left/center/right as analogs for political ideology – at least here in the U.S.A.
Leftist totalitarian ideologues who espouse international socialism have co-opted the “liberal” and “progressive” monikers in an effort to distance themselves from the murderous excesses of Stalin and Mao and present themselves as something akin to enlightened centrists reminiscent of Robin Hood. With the former term this was done through a fallacy of equivocation, i.e., stealing “liberal” from classical liberalism to form a terminological replacement for the unsightly, ill-regarded “communist”. In the process they contend – usually through ridicule and invocation of the “Red Scare” deflection – that only a paranoid idiot would be afraid of a resurgence of communism.
The same cadre of deconstructionists, in an effort to distance their chosen ideology from the murderous excesses of Hitler and Mussolini, have managed to redefine the term fascism – in the mind of the public, at any rate – not only as something aligned with “the right”, but something different from what it is: national socialism. Conservatives and true classical liberals have been beaten relentlessly with the “fascist” label in order to misrepresent centrist ideology as something aligned with the bogeymen of the last century: Schikegruber and il Duce.
In this context, the notion that the Republican Party is ideologically “right” is absurd, since all it’s done during the latter half of the 20th century to present day is to increase the dominance and size of government. This is actually one of the biggest threats facing our Republic: the two factions vying for political control are populated by far-left and center-left ideologues who use the words “left”, “right”, “nazi”, “commie”, “fascist” and “centrist” in ways that are completely alien to the underlying reality.
There’s not a spit’s bit of difference between fascism and communism. Both are totalitarian and only argue over who does the “planning”. They are simply nationalist and internationalist versions of the same far-left totalitarian model: “Everything inside the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.” BHO’s corporatist, “smiling” fascism is firmly grounded in that totalitarian end of the spectrum. The notion that he could move to the “center”, when he’d have to pass right by most of the Republicans in Congress (and elsewhere) is nothing but political black comedy.
55.ah…there you are,i was concerned you had exercised the “final option”.
hey,if you’re not too busy..perhaps you can use that great big brain of yours,and explain this:
http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/09/01/youve-got-a-better-idea/
” frank grimes:
“Obama who is either a) an evil genius or b) a sputtering dolt .”
you mean like bush,apparatchik?
Sep 3, 2009 – 8:12 pm
254. Now and Then:
253. frank grimes:
Do us all a favor, Frank, wake ALL THE WAY up before you post.
Sep 3, 2009 – 8:15 pm”
replying to a post aimed at you within three minutes…including moderation,i would love to learn that trick!
Obama move to the center? You can’t get there from where Obama is right now. It’s like trying to leap a chasm in two jumps.
News on the Obama trail:
(Judge is David O. Carter, United States District Court hearing arguments to determine whether Barack Obama is a natural born citizen … or not.)
“The judge, who is a former U.S. Marine, repeated several times that this is a very serious case which must be resolved quickly so that the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of war. He basically said Obama must prove his eligibility to the court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their President!
The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter would have none of it and cut them off several times. Obama’s attorneys left the courtroom after about the 90 minute hearing looking defeated and nervous.” — quote from article listed.
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=7194
#61. If it turns out that Obama is ineligible, will everything he signed become void?
@62. Paul -Indiana: – If it turns out that Obama is ineligible, will everything he signed become void?
The most likely outcome of the worst-case scenario is that the Senate will do exactly what they did in McCain’s case. They’ll unanimously pass a resolution declaring BHO a natural born citizen retroactively, using some weasel-worded reference to the unique circumstances of his birth and the “overwhelming” majority of Americans who “vetted” him by, uhm, voting for him (based on false pretenses, which they’ll conveniently ignore just like the pundit who tried to float this idiotic justification).
The important thing is that either (a) we’ll learn that there was never any reason for BHO to hide his original birth records, and that he’s therefore a paranoid narcissist who fancies himself above common Americans and other Presidents (see his very first Executive Order) or (b) we’ll learn that he was ineligible and there won’t likely be a Democrat President for the next 25 years unless the entire DNC resigns in disgrace.
McCain was born in US Territory and is actually a natural born citizen. What about you?
62. Paul -Indiana:
#61. If it turns out that Obama is ineligible, will everything he signed become void?
Give it up, freaks. Never gonna happen. By the way, Orly Taitz found another birth certificate. Problem is, it’s printed on the back of a Stuckey’s menu. Guess that could have come from any of y’all, eh?
63. goy:
You forgot c) Obama will continue to make the birthers look like radical maniacs – ignorant, gullible, desperate, and paranoid. (Invoice #3 on the way.)
Good Analysis: Obama will not follow the Clinton path. Since his ideas are not feasible I think he will wind up being the second Jimmy Carter. A one term President that had a lot of appeal until he stopped campaigning and started making decisions.
A lot of ink has been spilled, rightly, critizing the Main Stream Media’s love affair with Obama. But if Congress changes hands in November 2010 then I predict Obama will get the same treatment as Carter. On the bright side a lot of Left wing ideas will have been tried and their defects will become obvious even to their fondest proponents.