Israel is surrounded by a majority of people that do not share, have exposure to, nor a model for the same western values shared by N. Americans & Europeans. The country is the size of less then 1/10 of 1% of the entire middle east. A fifth of the worlds population, a billion strong have obsessively waged a campaign of intolerance against her. Oil, a primary commodity has supplied this ideology with infinite financing. A plague of misinformation against Israel spreads with impunity to media outlets, universities and countless other movements.

Make no mistake, if syria/hezbollah/iran regains Golan & Sheeba Farms, they will surely exploit it. True, if attacked from Golan after peace signed, Israel could launch simple air strikes, destroying the 150 dams throughout Syria flooding half the country. If this is true why was Lebanon 2 a failure? Certain covert restrictions & barriers confined Israel’s ability to execute a successful assault.

World opinion didn’t fall in Israel’s favor during its previous wars, why would they assume it would in the future when hezbollah begins firing rockets from Golan? What if the attacks are spontaneous and random, like from Gaza, sporadically killing & maiming? What’s Israel to do then, recapture Golan? flood Damascus? or should they launch limited, ineffective air strikes with equally ineffective minor ground incursions? What would the ‘oil educated’ world approve of publicly?

You are dealing with people who are drunk with their power. There will never be a solution if it will be based on the current balance of power verses international law. Israel did not withdraw from Lebanon if it was not for the daily attacks they were under, and will never withdraw from the Golan hights till the balance of powers changes. Funny enough Israel is the biggest opponent to regime change in Syria because the “Dictator” is Syria is making sure that there is no act of violence in the Golan against Israel.

There is no contention that the Arabs started the war. It is plain historical fact. This isn’t a discussion about the Iraq war, so I don’t see why you bring it up.

The Palestinians had a chance to make their territory (which was much more expansive than that of the Jews) lush and thriving like the Jews did. Instead they chose perpetual victimhood and war. Whose fault is that? Certainly not Israel’s.

Bobby
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What nonsense is this. The only “internationally recognized” borders of Israel are those fixed by the 1947 partition of mandated Palestine.

The Palestinian leader, the Mufti, who had been a Waffen SS commander, rejected the partition and called in five Arab armies to finish the work of annihilation of Jews he had participated in the Balkans with his Muslim troops. It was the last war that Nazi soldiers, formerly under the Mufti’s command and called in from Europe, fought for their cause.

That war ended with ceasefire lines, not borders. In 1967 the Arabs got the green light from Kosygin to destroy the Jews when the Americans indicated to Kosygin they would look the other way, but the Jews struck first and the old ceasefire lines were replaced with new ceasefire lines.

Settlement by Jews within all the disputed territories, namely Judea and Samaria, is sanctioned in international law by Article 80 of the UN Charter, the constitution of that organization, and any resolution to the contrary is unconstitutional and therefore illegal. Article 80 affirms the League of Nation ratification of the Balfour Declaration which says “Jews may settle anywhere in Palestine,” as defined in the declaration.

Get some facts before you shoot off your mouth about “borders” and “international law.” No one is going back to 1947. For starters that would mean abandoning Jerusalem.

Of course I support Israel’s right to exist but within the pre-1967 internationally recognized borders. The international law does not care the war is defensive or aggressive.

A country cannot annex other people’s territories to its own through war, period. The reason for this is that it can be debatable whether a war is defensive or aggressive. Different sides have different opinions on who started the war. One side can easily agitate the other side to fire the first shot or stage a fake attack and then use that as a legal basis to go to war. For example Germany justified its invasion of Poland by staging a fake Polish attack (known as Gleiwitz incident). If you have all the world’s media on your side, you can justify every action you take.

Why do we go far. The US attack on Iraq was based on false intelligence and unproved links between Saddam and Al Qaeda. The majority of American people fell for it! This shows how dreadful it can be to ignore the international law and agencies, in particular the UN. At the end, it is to the best interest of the world that we resolve conflicts through negotiations and peacefully rather than through war and military might.

Let me ask you, do you support hezbollah and hamas? and do you believe Israel has a right to exist?